Is George W. Bush The "GrandSon of the Beast", Aleister Crowley?

DriftingByTheStorm

This is weird shit.
If anyone cares to put down their perceived "sanity" for a minute and embrace the notion that the elite of this world actually DO practice weird occultic rituals, and DO worship the maintenance of close blood relations (blood lines) and so forth ... then the following is certainly an odd possibility.

George W. Bush May Be The Grandson of Aleister Crowley

Photos of Barbara Bush & Aleister Crowley

Weird?
I dunno.
I heard about this from Freeman, who was on the AJ Show last friday.
Freeman knows a SHIT TON about freemasonry, occultism, numerology, kabalism, and all sorts of fucked up shit. I mean the guy is WELL READ.

Anyhow.
Certainly sounds plausible, if not totaly unsubstantiated.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

lol....

I read about this a few months ago

small world apparently...

my2hands

this forum has gone downhill in a real bad way...

DriftingByTheStorm

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

lol....

I read about this a few months ago

small world apparently...

She sure as hell has the jaw, the jowl, the eyes, and most notably (besides the eyes), her LIPS ... look at the picture in the top right and bottom right.
Look at the eyes and lips. Its almost scary.



Also, if you were some crazy young, rich floozie,
and you were hanging out with "The Beast", whose sexual virility is legendary ...
and you had the opportunity of "being" with him for a period of time ...
uh ... would you?


lol.

angelica

my2hands wrote:

this forum has gone downhill in a real bad way...

angelica

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

This is weird shit.
If anyone cares to put down their perceived "sanity" for a minute and embrace the notion that the elite of this world actually DO practice weird occultic rituals, and DO worship the maintenance of close blood relations (blood lines) and so forth ... then the following is certainly an odd possibility.

George W. Bush May Be The Grandson of Aleister Crowley

Photos of Barbara Bush & Aleister Crowley

Weird?
I dunno.
I heard about this from Freeman, who was on the AJ Show last friday.
Freeman knows a SHIT TON about freemasonry, occultism, numerology, kabalism, and all sorts of fucked up shit. I mean the guy is WELL READ.

Anyhow.
Certainly sounds plausible, if not totaly unsubstantiated.

I think a huge problem is that people don't understand the occult.

I can certainly understand empowered people banding together in secret societies....all this is independent of the 666-bloodline-assertion, mind you.

The power these guys hold is not the power they appear to hold.

And anyone can tap this power, too.

angelica

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

This is weird shit.
If anyone cares to put down their perceived "sanity" for a minute and embrace the notion that the elite of this world actually DO practice weird occultic rituals, and DO worship the maintenance of close blood relations (blood lines) and so forth ... then the following is certainly an odd possibility.

George W. Bush May Be The Grandson of Aleister Crowley

Photos of Barbara Bush & Aleister Crowley

Weird?
I dunno.
I heard about this from Freeman, who was on the AJ Show last friday.
Freeman knows a SHIT TON about freemasonry, occultism, numerology, kabalism, and all sorts of fucked up shit. I mean the guy is WELL READ.

Anyhow.
Certainly sounds plausible, if not totaly unsubstantiated.

maybe I'm just in a giddy mood today, but the pics of Barb and Aleister crack me up!

DriftingByTheStorm

my2hands wrote:

this forum has gone downhill in a real bad way...

Excuse me,
but this is bullshit.

Just because certain members of this forum don't stick to the same shit that is printed in a college history book, they are somehow degrading the forum?

How about continuing to be stuck in a fake paradigm decades after The Who wrote the tune "Won't Get Fooled Again".

Hahah.
Boy were they fucking off the mark.
The American public will be fooled again, and again, and again, and again, apparently.

Meet the new boss.

:rolleyes:

RolandTD20Kdrummer

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

She sure as hell has the jaw, the jowl, the eyes, and most notably (besides the eyes), her LIPS ... look at the picture in the top right and bottom right.
Look at the eyes and lips. Its almost scary.



Also, if you were some crazy young, rich floozie,
and you were hanging out with "The Beast", whose sexual virility is legendary ...
and you had the opportunity of "being" with him for a period of time ...
uh ... would you?


lol.

You'll get no argument from me....the resemblance is absolutely uncanny.

Socialites of the day attracted to the mysterious bad boy Crowley. The are connections placing people in proximities at certain times.

DriftingByTheStorm

angelica wrote:

I think a huge problem is that people don't understand the occult.

I can certainly understand empowered people banding together in secret societies....all this is independent of the 666-bloodline-assertion, mind you.

The power these guys hold is not the power they appear to hold.

And anyone can tap this power, too.

I know a bit about occult magik.
Not intimately, but via second hand accounts.

My best friend in highschool was a fucking genius.
He literally got a 1600 on the SAT.
He was pompous, arrogant, condescending, offputting, socialy ackward, and extremely literate. The guy just devoured everything from Roman history and Greek literature, on to philosophy, psychology, and more.

In short, he was a perfect candidate for ritualistic magik.
He started to get obsessed with it actually.
he read Aleisters books, he read the Illuminatus trillogy, and he practiced.

Being a mere "mortal" myself ... someone with only a slightly above average SAT score and apparent intelligence, i just ignored it.

But when i did ask questions, it became pretty clear what occult "magik" is really all about.

ITS ABOUT MANIPULATION.
That what i got out of it anyhow.
You use "powers" to cast "spells" on people.
And by "spells" i mean, you weave illusions over them by various means to render them within your control.

It is no WONDER the elite are obsessed with this shit.
Its all about fucking your mind in any way possible to get you to submit.

I remember he used to try his "magik" on the street. If we went to starbucks (where i worked) he would try it on the employees. He would try to weasle his way to a free cup of coffee, or in to a girls pants, or win an argument that he knew was false, just to see if he could get someone to admit defeat (even though they were right).

That is what i came to understand as "magik", from my misguided-genius amigo.

NMyTree

I could never tell the difference between Barbara and any old guy, anyway.

For the longest time I thought Barbara was an old guy. Even when she was in her 40s.

angelica

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

I know a bit about occult magik.
Not intimately, but via second hand accounts.

My best friend in highschool was a fucking genius.
He literally got a 1600 on the SAT.
He was pompous, arrogant, condescending, offputting, socialy ackward, and extremely literate. The guy just devoured everything from Roman history and Greek literature, on to philosophy, psychology, and more.

In short, he was a perfect candidate for ritualistic magik.
He started to get obsessed with it actually.
he read Aleisters books, he read the Illuminatus trillogy, and he practiced.

Being a mere "mortal" myself ... someone with only a slightly above average SAT score and apparent intelligence, i just ignored it.

But when i did ask questions, it became pretty clear what occult "magik" is really all about.

ITS ABOUT MANIPULATION.
That what i got out of it anyhow.
You use "powers" to cast "spells" on people.
And by "spells" i mean, you weave illusions over them by various means to render them within your control.

It is no WONDER the elite are obsessed with this shit.
Its all about fucking your mind in any way possible to get you to submit.

I remember he used to try his "magik" on the street. If we went to starbucks (where i worked) he would try it on the employees. He would try to weasle his way to a free cup of coffee, or in to a girls pants, or win an argument that he knew was false, just to see if he could get someone to admit defeat (even though they were right).

That is what i came to understand as "magik", from my misguided-genius amigo.

dude, I regularly interact with the occult. Do I seem manipulative? Dark? Like the type to cast spells?


Again, with 14 years experience in this stuff, I say people looking at it from the outside don't understand it. At the same time, yes, also people who learn to use natural potentials all around us, who are not in a good place, can abuse this potential.

All is accepted within natural law...people merely must accept the consequences of their actions........they cannot escape universal law.



And again, I completely understand how those who have learned to wield power learn to stay among other like-minded ones.

You yourself know the abuse and degradation mediocre minds heap on great Spirits.

Keep in mind, that as I refer to the empowered, I know perfectly well that one irresponsible step, like with George Bush, for example, is absolutely dealt with universally. When one TRULY understands the occult, one understands the principles and dynamics beyond mere and fallible humans. And one greatly reveres them knowing they are always in 'control'. Humans never ever control nature...they can only work WITH universal law.

Just like someone who on this board acts irresponsible, they will reap what they sow, the same goes for 'the elite'. The problems comes in with the scripts we assign to these happenstances, when we don't understand the big picture.

DriftingByTheStorm

angelica wrote:

dude, I regularly interact with the occult. Do I seem manipulative? Dark? Like the type to cast spells?

No.
But you also don't seem like the type who greatly reveres Aleister Crowley and "his school" of occultism.

I have no doubt that just like any universal force, there is an equal and "opposite" counterpart.

I'm just telling you what i was told by someone who studied from Crowley's writings directly. He told me it was 10% about ritual and 90% about manipulating people through coercive, subtle, and often times subliminal or subconscious means.

angelica

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

No.
But you also don't seem like the type who greatly reveres Aleister Crowley and "his school" of occultism.

I have no doubt that just like any universal force, there is an equal and "opposite" counterpart.

I'm just telling you what i was told by someone who studied from Crowley's writings directly. He told me it was 10% about ritual and 90% about manipulating people through coercive, subtle, and often times subliminal or subconscious means.

I do all of the above all the time, only without the slant of it being negative....to manipulate, for example, is to mold. And I fully understand that if I infringe on the best interests or on the will of others, I undermine my own self and hold myself back.

Still....if people give up their consciousness and free-will, which they do all the time as you know, if I am empowered and focused on the greater good, I have no qualms about molding (manipulating) a 'better' world. People unconsciously contract with me all the time by their choices/actions, to willingly go along....

When we all attune to our potential, and the world around us, we'll all do this to the point of self-actualization, and in harmony.

The negative consequences teach us all the time....again, like those who are derogatory, manipulative and abusive on this board...

angelica

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

No.
But you also don't seem like the type who greatly reveres Aleister Crowley and "his school" of occultism.

Also, I use similar means to power that he was known to use, such as the Tarot. I use it a LOT.

DriftingByTheStorm

angelica wrote:

And I fully understand that if I infringe on the best interests or on the will of others, I undermine my own self and hold myself back

See.
I don't think these people understand, accept, or follow that assertion.

Unless possibly they rationalize that what they are doing is in the interest of the greater good of humanity in the longview. I fully believe this is the case, but I disagree with them. And i think they are being dishonest with themselves.

Certainly you don't deny that there are those who abuse "the occult".
What is it you think they are doing in there at Bohemian Grove, worshiping that weird homaphroditic owl god\goddess statue, all dressed in pagan robes, with staffs of light in hand?

NMyTree

Is praising and worshiping a pair of audio loudspeakers, an audio tube amplifier and audio tube pre amp; considered "Occult"?

Just wondering.

cornnifer

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

Excuse me,
but this is bullshit.

Just because certain members of this forum don't stick to the same shit that is printed in a college history book, they are somehow degrading the forum?

How about continuing to be stuck in a fake paradigm decades after The Who wrote the tune "Won't Get Fooled Again".

Hahah.
Boy were they fucking off the mark.
The American public will be fooled again, and again, and again, and again, apparently.

Meet the new boss.

:rolleyes:

There really is no difference between being spoonfed by the mass media and spoonfed by crackpot conspiracy theorists with way to much time on their hands. Being fed from a different bowl is all. Maybe some folks "won't be fooled again" by guys who balance glass bottles on their doorknobs and wire their apartments to burn in case the proverbial "they" should happen to find them.

NMyTree

cornnifer wrote:

.... by guys who balance glass bottles on their doorknobs and wire their apartments to burn in case the proverbial "they" should happen to find them.

You have to admit, that was a great movie with excellent performances from Mel, Julia and Patrick.

angelica

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

See.
I don't think these people understand, accept, or follow that assertion.

Unless possibly they rationalize that what they are doing is in the interest of the greater good of humanity in the longview. I fully believe this is the case, but I disagree with them. And i think they are being dishonest with themselves.

Certainly you don't deny that there are those who abuse "the occult".
What is it you think they are doing in there at Bohemian Grove, worshiping that weird homaphroditic owl god\goddess statue, all dressed in pagan robes, with staffs of light in hand?

I think I basically agree with you that some key power people are acting for their own selfish reasons. I believe they DO tell themselves it's for the good of the people who "don't know better"...which is an extension of our patriarchal imbalanced ways. The fact is, the masses continue on with mediocrity and small-minded pursuits...which I can respect and understand.

For example, all the global stuff....from the occult standpoint, we just ARE evolving to an open world. And many...such as the North American leaders know this, and are merely aligning...feeling that warm fuzzy feeling, "helping" us blind folk along...while opportunistically grabbing all the win-win they can get.

The consequences they reap are ones I personally could not handle. My guess is you could not either.... They live my nightmare life.

So yes, humanitarian focused people like myself, yourself, or Roland, for example, seek to do the same thing in terms of awakening peole to their own power....it remains the same thing, imo.


The occult itself is not negative at all. It's merely hidden, due to the ignorance of the average person, and the witchhunt-lynch-mob-Christ-killing approach the average blind person holds......as you must well know from experience.....

As for rituals...if they are empowering to individuals, I'm for it. Symbolism has a huge power on our subconscious. I use the power of it all the time, in marshalling my own forces, and work to do so in influencing others....and the mental health field, and I see myself doing this on some pretty fundamental levels over time. Words themselves are symbols...I see you using them quite consciously and effectively for your own purposes, too.....

angelica

Another point, Drifting, is that only 15% of the population are idealist, like yourself, Roland, myself.... The rest...as they learn to use natural principles to create what they want for themselves...their blindspots and lack bring them growth experiences and challenges they will have to someday live with...they just don't have the vision/awareness/foresight to head it off before it becomes experience. The average person allows themselves to be bound by social conventions that have evolved to keep people 'moral'. Some of us evolve to post-moral stages and know we can no longer rely on authority, but must learn for ourselves. someone like George Bush IS holding so much power, and knows the real powerlessness of our institutions like you or I do, unfortunately, he does not have our natural intuitive vision. The thing is, preserving power in families can become a contrived, anti-evolutionary thing...in truth, in reality, the true natural predispositions for power actually lie in those who are visionarily predisposed....and evolution responds accordingly, to it's self, not to manmade law.

NMyTree

Religious people...those worshiping God/Jesus.....Allah/Mohammad or whatever you want to call this god. Or any god for that matter....

Perceive the occult as competition or a threat to the perceived powers of their god. They perceive the Occult as a contradiction to their God's powers.

So naturally, since they percieve their god as the god of all that is good and loving (cough...cough....), then, in their minds, the Occult must be the opposite......Evil.

And they have played that up for centuries.

Truth is, for all we know......the organized religions may turn out to be the work of the evil one (the devil), as a means of dividing humans, pandering to their self-righteousness and pitting them against themselves.

And the Occult may in fact turn out to be the works of all the natural spiritualism and natural physics of the universel; which we simply don't comprehend at this stage of our existence and intelligence.

You never know. It could turn out that way.

Collin

NMyTree wrote:

I could never tell the difference between Barbara and any old guy, anyway.

For the longest time I thought Barbara was an old guy. Even when she was in her 40s.

Barbara should really wear her wig when she poses for a camera. She looks good with the hat, though.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

cornnifer wrote:

There really is no difference between being spoonfed by the mass media and spoonfed by crackpot conspiracy theorists with way to much time on their hands. Being fed from a different bowl is all. Maybe some folks "won't be fooled again" by guys who balance glass bottles on their doorknobs and wire their apartments to burn in case the proverbial "they" should happen to find them.

please remove broomstick from sphincter...you'll feel better.

Nevermind

I wouldnt be suprised if half this message board could be traced back to him and his fuckstick.

jeffbr

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

please remove broomstick from sphincter...you'll feel better.

Nevermind wrote:

I wouldnt be suprised if half this message board could be traced back to him and his fuckstick.

I know Angelica thinks of these guys as the enlightened and extra-perceptive idealist elite, but in this case I guess I'm happy being just an average joe who relys on logic and reason. I try to stay out of the fruitloop threads, but it is always humorous when the fruitloops condescend as Driftin' did in this thread. I generally like Driftin' but when some of this wacky shit is flung around and presented as alternative to being stuck in a fake paradigm, it is natural for the reasonable to question.

Nevermind

http://youtube.com/watch?v=nD09cSvR64Q
Heres the link to the Freeman interview.

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=batch_download&batch_id=Q01INnFBdWNveE5jR0E9PQ
And some Crowley workks if interested.

DriftingByTheStorm

jeffbr wrote:

I try to stay out of the fruitloop threads, but it is always humorous when the fruitloops condescend as Driftin' did in this thread.I generally like Driftin' but when some of this wacky shit is flung around and presented as alternative to being stuck in a fake paradigm, it is natural for the reasonable to question.

You do realize that my condescension was in direct response to someone who said "this forum has gone downhill in a real bad way...", in direct reference to ME, right?

Look. I AGREE WITH YOU.

When someone comes on and says something as seemingly random as, "is George W. Bush the grandson of Aleister Crowley", "it is natural for the reasonable to question".

Fuck man, I ASKED a question my self!
The goddamn title of the thread is a fucking question!

The problem i have is that while it may be "natural for a reasonable person to question", those people (and you are going here on the assumption that they are reasonable, and presumably not I?) are NOT ASKING REASONABLE QUESTIONS.

Heres how it works:

1. Unsubstantiated claim or question
2. Response: You're a fucking idiot\loon\wacko. You detract from this forum.
3. General mudslinging.
4. Distraction and side dialogue
5. You show up and say of course its reasonable to ask questions.

My question: WHERE ARE THE FUCKING QUESTIONS, MR. REASONABLE?

Lets here it.
Shit.

Someone look at this stuff.

George W. Bush's maternal grandmother galavants around IN CLOSE RELATION to Aleister Crowley and comes home pregnant.

Given the notoriety of his "fuck stick" and given the apparent notoriety of her own sexual promiscuity (rumors of affairs with Eishenhower, was it?) ... whose to fucking say?

But shit, instead of just bashing me,
ask a reasonable question.

Don't just come on here and be a dick because your seemingly narrow perception of the world doesn't jive with a possibly more complex or bizzare actuality. [not directed at you, Jeff, just in general]

Question for Jeff: WHAT MAKES THIS THREAD "FRUITLOOP"?
Seriously i want to know what the fuck it is about some of this stuff (take Bohemian Grove, for example, which IS DOCUMENTED) "fruitloop" ... ???
:(

angelica

jeffbr wrote:

I know Angelica thinks of these guys as the enlightened and extra-perceptive idealist elite...

these are your words, definitely not mine!

What the people referred to are is powerful. I don't see that as in dispute. (edit: I may have misunderstood who you mean by "these guys"...if you mean those like Roland and Drifting, I don't consider them enlightened, but I do consider them to have a fairly rare perception! ..which also at times contains flaws, like most of our mindsets do!)

What I defend is "the occult", which is as neutral as water. It can be used for good or bad.

, but in this case I guess I'm happy being just an average joe who relys on logic and reason. I try to stay out of the fruitloop threads, but it is always humorous when the fruitloops condescend as Driftin' did in this thread. I generally like Driftin' but when some of this wacky shit is flung around and presented as alternative to being stuck in a fake paradigm, it is natural for the reasonable to question.

all paradigms are valid, given the context. And if we all allow ourselves to evolve, we progress to other paradigms, just as we progressed from crawling to walking.

angelica

I'd like to add about perception and intuition...there are no limits for possibilities to look into. To shut down potential is to contract. When we consider such potential, that's where logic comes in as necessary in order to uncover the truth. Logic and intuition are used in concert! They are not at odds with each other.

To suggest our more perceptive, far-seeing intuitive types are "crazy" is .... a position coming from lack of awareness. To degrade intuitive intelligence, which is not logical intelligence, is fairly socially acceptable, and speaks to our bias as a society, not to the truth of the importance of such intelligence.

The proof will be in the logic that disproves such possibilities...not in the personal attacks based on emotional argument or lack of awareness.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

jeffbr wrote:

I know Angelica thinks of these guys as the enlightened and extra-perceptive idealist elite, but in this case I guess I'm happy being just an average joe who relys on logic and reason. I try to stay out of the fruitloop threads, but it is always humorous when the fruitloops condescend as Driftin' did in this thread. I generally like Driftin' but when some of this wacky shit is flung around and presented as alternative to being stuck in a fake paradigm, it is natural for the reasonable to question.

Pass the broomstick....

lol....I love when people get all uptight about stupid shit like this.