Man kicked off flight for anti-Bush T-shirt

MrBrian wrote:

http://www.wnyc.org/news/articles/63716

I guess Jetblue will get a free pass, too...

jlew24asu wrote:

with freedom comes responsibility.

it's fun to string together subjective terms and treat them as if they are black and white....

anyhoo, please tell me, how was the wearing if that shirt irresponsible...?

jlew24asu wrote:

If I owed an airline, I would let him fly as long he was checked for weapons, bombs, etc. but I dont.

liberal....;)

Let's sneak into their hangars and spray paint "Bush: #1 Terrorist" on the sides of all their planes!

What airline was it?

surferdude wrote:

It showed irresponsibility on his part by not knowing what the terms and conditions of the ticket he purchased were. It showed a lack of responsibility and maturity in how he reacted when the terms and conditions he agreed to when purchasing his ticket were enforced.

The airline has a dress code, just like many places in the world have a dress code. It may be a stupid dress code but they are free to have a stupid dress code. The passenger in question has proven himself to be a touch stupider by thinking that the company's inforcement of their dress code is a matter of his freedom of speach.

you mean these "terms and conditions"...?

10.1 Refusal of Carriage
Even if you have a ticket and a confirmed reservation, we may refuse to carry you and your baggage if any of the following circumstances have occurred or we reasonably believe will occur:

* if carrying you or your baggage may put the safety of the aircraft or the safety or health or any person in the aircraft in danger or at risk
* if carrying you or your baggage may materially affect the comfort of any person in the aircraft
* if carrying you will break government laws, regulations, orders or an immigration direction from a country to which you are travelling or are to depart from
* because you have refused to allow a security check to be carried out on you or your baggage
* because you do not appear to have all necessary documents (see 8.1)
* if you fail to comply with any applicable law, rule, regulation or order or these Conditions of Carriage
* if you fail to complete the check-in process by the check-in deadline or fail to arrive at the boarding gate on time
* because you have not obeyed the instructions of our ground staff or a member of the crew of the aircraft relating to safety or security
* because you have not complied with our medical requirements (see 3.5)
* because you require special assistance and you have not made prior arrangements with us for this (see 4.8)
* if you are drunk or under the influence of alcohol or drugs
* if you are, or we reasonably believe you are, in unlawful possession of drugs
* if your mental or physical state is a danger or risk to you, the aircraft or any person in it
* if you have used threatening, abusive or insulting words towards our ground staff or a member of the crew of the aircraft or otherwise behaved in a threatening manner
* if you have committed a criminal offence during the check-in or boarding processes or on board the aircraft
* if you have deliberately interfered with a member of our ground staff or the crew of the aircraft carrying out their duties
* if you have put the safety of either the aircraft or any person in it in danger
* if you have made a threat
* because you have committed misconduct on a previous flight and we have reason to believe that such conduct may be repeated
* because you cannot prove you are the person specified on the ticket on which you wish to travel
* because you are trying to use a flight coupon out of sequence without our agreement (see 6.11)
* if you destroy your travel documents during the flight
* if you have refused to allow us to photocopy your travel documents
* if you have refused to give your travel documents to a member of our ground staff or the crew of the aircraft when we have asked you to do so
* if you ask the relevant government authorities for permission to enter a country in which you have landed as a transit passenger
* because your ticket:
- is not paid for
- has been reported lost or stolen
- has been transferred
- has been acquired unlawfully
- has been acquired from someone other than us or an Authorised Agent
- contains an alteration which has not been made by us or an Authorised Agent
- is spoiled, torn or damaged or has otherwise been tampered with, or
- is counterfeit or otherwise invalid

from here: http://www.qantas.com.au/info/flying/beforeYouTravel/conditionsCarriageLong


edit: I don't see anything about a dress code or t-shirt choice....

inmytree wrote:

you mean these "terms and conditions"...?

10.1 Refusal of Carriage
Even if you have a ticket and a confirmed reservation, we may refuse to carry you and your baggage if any of the following circumstances have occurred or we reasonably believe will occur:

* if carrying you or your baggage may put the safety of the aircraft or the safety or health or any person in the aircraft in danger or at risk
* if carrying you or your baggage may materially affect the comfort of any person in the aircraft
* if you have deliberately interfered with a member of our ground staff or the crew of the aircraft carrying out their duties
* if you have put the safety of either the aircraft or any person in it in danger
* if you have made a threat
edit: I don't see anything about a dress code or t-shirt choice....

it was a judgement call by the people on the aircraft (whether or not it was an excessive reaction is debateable). If you don't listen to what the crew says you are interfering with their ability to carry out their duty. We don't know what was said before the refusal to fly was administered.

Collin wrote:

Shit, imagine being kicked of the plane during the flight.

Yea, shit, that's a little harsh. I'd hope they'd at least give me a chute and let me off over a friendly neighbourhood

Ahnimus wrote:

Yea, shit, that's a little harsh. I'd hope they'd at least give me a chute and let me off over a friendly neighbourhood

I suppose it depends on you choice of dress and if you listen to author-i-tie...

jlew24asu wrote:

you people dont get it. the airline has every right not to let him fly on the plane. if you dont like it, pick another airline

I don't see the airline's name published. What airline was it? If I own any shares, I'm selling.