CBS fires imus
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Cheguevara6 wrote:Turn on VH1 and MTV right now. There are videos of scantily clad women in bikini's
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what always irks me is these incidents as sickening as they may be always provide an opportunity for the community and society and country at large to talk and discuss issues that we normally are too timid to discuss. September 11th would be a time for discussing issues of foreign policy, Hurrican Katrina would be a time to discuss racism and poverty, and this incident would provide us a change to talk about racism and sexism. Yet the incident always passes and its never discussed in a meaningful way.0
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Cheguevara6 wrote:what always irks me is these incidents as sickening as they may be always provide an opportunity for the community and society and country at large to talk and discuss issues that we normally are too timid to discuss. September 11th would be a time for discussing issues of foreign policy, Hurrican Katrina would be a time to discuss racism and poverty, and this incident would provide us a change to talk about racism and sexism. Yet the incident always passes and its never discussed in a meaningful way.
I can't speak about the others but I believe when it's a situation like this the focus is always on the actions of the person, in this case Imus, instead of the root cause."When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul0 -
AstroFan wrote:I was watching MSNBC and saw a commercial for NBC Nightly News.
The top story: Don Imus
The secondary story: "..dead American soldiers".
Idiots.
this whole episode highlights how fucked up our media is in so many waysi'm more a fan of popular bands.. like the bee-gees, pearl jam0 -
Cheguevara6 wrote:Don Imus said something unbelieveably ridiculous and gross. I mean, what the hell was he thinking? He was wrong for saying what he did, and should be fined, and forced to meet with the basketball team and contribute money to some organization for social justice and racial unity.
That said, I am a big supporter of free speech. Either your for it or your not.
Noam Chomsky, a radical leftist, but also a jewish person, drew criticism long ago for writing the introduction for a book, written about and by a man who denied the holocaust ever happened, and was antisemitic.
To me, free speech is what seperates us from what we constantly get drummed in our heads. Those evil terrorists, how the hell do they deal with free speech? They probably deal with it in radical ways, but in many ways, most likely similar ways. They fire and kill those who say radical things.
Imus is a jerk and a racist. He is insensitive, but his firing is a loss for democracy and free speech. He should still be on the air.
What I dont get is why Sharpton and Jackson pushed for his ouster. These are men who knew MLK. Do they think MLK would support firing of Imus? Hell no.
This is so stupid. Imus should be condemned, and branded a racist but this is overboardOh dear dad
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somebodyelse'ssky wrote:nappy headed ho's has been used so much by all other comedians no not really...i compare it to a bad knock knock joke..i saw some black leaders on the news last night however comparing it to the rosa parks incident...that was way funnier i had to use a tissue for my laugh tears.
Believe me my friend, I think this entire battle is a waste of time. well for the most part anyway. If all these people would rather focus all this energy in a better way. I mean like health care. but whatever, the countries gone mad! hehehe0 -
Wow, a lot of righteous indignation from people here about a private company firing an employee for being an idiot. Somehow people are turning this into a censorship issue? So would your solution be to have the government mandate that MSNBC retain Imus and be required to air his show?
If the government had banned Imus I could understand the furor here. But a dumbass got fired for being a dumbass. If he can pull the ratings somewhere, he'll get picked up by someone else."I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/080 -
the guy was just making a joke...everyone needs to settle down, get a life and sense of humor, and relax. Honestly, who really gives a shit? Life's way too short to get all bent out of shape over this..there are more important things to worry about0
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the media is always so quick to jump on something negative. this guy was condemned before he ever had a chance. convicted and hung within a few minutes. nothing positive he ever did was thrust into the spotlight with such vengeance. in an hour of news coverage we get 59 minutes of negativity and one minute of positivity. is there nothing good happening anywhere that could give someone some hope or what? we get national coverage of a shock jock jokingly calling a basketball team nappy headed ho's. they actually had in on the ticker on the bottom of the screen, unfucking real.Oh dear dad
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somebodyelse'ssky wrote:the media is always so quick to jump on something negative. this guy was condemned before he ever had a chance. convicted and hung within a few minutes. nothing positive he ever did was thrust into the spotlight with such vengeance. in an hour of news coverage we get 59 minutes of negativity and one minute of positivity. is there nothing good happening anywhere that could give someone some hope or what? we get national coverage of a shock jock jokingly calling a basketball team nappy headed ho's. they actually had in on the ticker on the bottom of the screen, unfucking real.
Imus was the victim of a slow news week. Had something else, of much more importance happened, we probabaly would have never heard of Imus' comment."When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul0 -
I don't think he should have been fired for what he did... I do think he should have been fired though, because all the sponsors were going away... he doesn't make money anymore, can him.
I think its silly how the media went into a firestorm about the whole story. He's an racist and jerk, but he can say it.The Sentence Below Is True
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somebodyelse'ssky wrote:ridiculous shit...comedy is outlawed in america who would have ever thunk it?
No. Just white guys making any stereotypical race jokes.
Non-whites can continue saying anything and everything they want.0 -
somebodyelse'ssky wrote:the media is always so quick to jump on something negative. this guy was condemned before he ever had a chance. convicted and hung within a few minutes. nothing positive he ever did was thrust into the spotlight with such vengeance. in an hour of news coverage we get 59 minutes of negativity and one minute of positivity. is there nothing good happening anywhere that could give someone some hope or what? we get national coverage of a shock jock jokingly calling a basketball team nappy headed ho's. they actually had in on the ticker on the bottom of the screen, unfucking real.
the thing is; he only repeated lyrics to a hip hop song. nappy headed ho's is a common catch phrase in the black communnity. if it's wrong for a white man to repeat what a black man can say in the same forum; i'm stocking up on ammunition because hell is about to break loose.0 -
NMyTree wrote:No. Just white guys making any stereotypical race jokes.
Non-whites can continue saying anything and everything they want.
no; just a white guy repeating what a black man is allowed to say.0 -
onelongsong wrote:no; just a white guy repeating what a black man is allowed to say.
I stand corrected.0 -
jeffbr wrote:Wow, a lot of righteous indignation from people here about a private company firing an employee for being an idiot. Somehow people are turning this into a censorship issue? So would your solution be to have the government mandate that MSNBC retain Imus and be required to air his show?
If the government had banned Imus I could understand the furor here. But a dumbass got fired for being a dumbass. If he can pull the ratings somewhere, he'll get picked up by someone else.
He got fired for over reactionary bullshit. I don't care who did the firing...it was a stupid thing to get so worked up about.If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
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this could be a conspiracy of sorts..if you look at the bigger picture this might scare away some of the white voters on obama's side at the moment..get people enraged over race issues and as trivial as this one is... who knows what could happen. people are going to start thinking deeper into this. i'm sure sooner or later obama will be asked what he thought about the imus comments in a press conference if he hasn't been asked already and bingo the ball starts rolling.Oh dear dad
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Abookamongstthemany wrote:He got fired for over reactionary bullshit. I don't care who did the firing...it was a stupid thing to get so worked up about."I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/080
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somebodyelse'ssky wrote:this could be a conspiracy of sorts..if you look at the bigger picture this might scare away some of the white voters on obama's side at the moment..get people enraged over race issues and as trivial as this one is... who knows what could happen. people are going to start thinking deeper into this. i'm sure sooner or later obama will be asked what he thought about the imus comments in a press conference if he hasn't been asked already and bingo the ball starts rolling.
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=3031317&page=1
April 11, 2007— In an interview with ABC News Wednesday afternoon, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., called for the firing of talk radio host Don Imus. Obama said he would never again appear on Imus' show, which is broadcast on CBS Radio and MSNBC television.
"I understand MSNBC has suspended Mr. Imus," Obama told ABC News, "but I would also say that there's nobody on my staff who would still be working for me if they made a comment like that about anybody of any ethnic group. And I would hope that NBC ends up having that same attitude."
Obama said he appeared once on Imus' show two years ago, and "I have no intention of returning."
Racial Slur Stirs Trouble for Shock Jock
Last week, Imus referred to the Rutgers University women's basketball team, most of whom are African-American, as "nappy-headed hos." He has since apologized for his remarks, and CBS and MSNBC suspended his show for two weeks.
"He didn't just cross the line," Obama said. "He fed into some of the worst stereotypes that my two young daughters are having to deal with today in America. The notions that as young African-American women — who I hope will be athletes — that that somehow makes them less beautiful or less important. It was a degrading comment. It's one that I'm not interested in supporting."
Though every major presidential candidate has decried the racist remarks, Obama is the first one to say Imus should lose his job for them.
His proclamation was the latest in an ever-expanding list of bad news for Imus.
Sponsors, including American Express Co., General Motors Corp., Procter & Gamble Co., and Staples Inc. — have announced they are pulling advertisements from the show for the indefinite future.
Tuesday, the basketball team held a press conference.
"I think that this has scarred me for life," said Matee Ajavon. "We grew up in a world where racism exists, and there's nothing we can do to change that."
"What we've been seeing around this country is this constant ratcheting up of a coarsening of the culture that all of have to think about," Obama said.0
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