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  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
    angelica wrote:
    I am great! I missed you on the weekend! :) I hope you are awesome!



    Roland, sometimes you're just too cute. :)

    Glad to hear it girl. :) I've been thinking of you. :)
    Been a wee bit preoccupied here with a few family issues. But I'm ok.
    If we don't catch up this weekend, next weekend for sure. :)

    And yes, sometimes Roland is just too cute. ;):D
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  • callen
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    Pearl Jam and toast wrote:
    I just don't understand why anyone has to align themselves to a certain religion. Why do you believe you have to follow every part of the Bible, go into some building every Sunday and listen to a man in a funny collar?

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    and animals congregate for protection....want to be part of a group...self preservation. Some are able to drop this instinct...others just can't...and theres nothing wrong with that....it just is what it is. The ironic thing about this is...many humans want to consider themselves special...better than beasts...yet these same people are the ones that have the most beastly qualities...if that makes sense.

    Really liked your post...lots of good stuff.....

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  • Pearl Jam and toast
    Pearl Jam and toast Posts: 4,475
    onelongsong wrote:
    um; i've stated many times that the bible was written and assembled by flawed men. it tells a small portion of a story.

    i find homosexuality discusting. no religion involved. i see 2 guys kissing and i want to puke. men acting like women (to me) is pretending to be something they're not. no religion involved in my opinion at all.
    Do you really believe your religion had no part in shaping your belief about homosexuality? Honestly? A person's religion shapes their beliefs. And it's the same way with society and culture. You've been bred out of a Christian culture and family (I'm assuming). That shaped the person you are today, and part of that is your disgust with homosexuality.

    You can believe what you want to believe, but be honest with yourself.
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  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
    onelongsong wrote:
    sorry; forgot them.

    :rolleyes: gee!! pay attention! :D They are important folk to remember! :)
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  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    onelongsong wrote:
    um; i've stated many times that the bible was written and assembled by flawed men. it tells a small portion of a story.

    i find homosexuality discusting. no religion involved. i see 2 guys kissing and i want to puke. men acting like women (to me) is pretending to be something they're not. no religion involved in my opinion at all.

    What kind of reply is that? It was about agnosticism.

    Personally, I think agnosticism is the primary Evil in the world today.

    Hehee.

    Well, maybe not. That would be calling a lot of 14-to-22-year-olds the evil of the world today.
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  • Pearl Jam and toast
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    callen wrote:
    and animals congregate for protection....want to be part of a group...self preservation. Some are able to drop this instinct...others just can't...and theres nothing wrong with that....it just is what it is. The ironic thing about this is...many humans want to consider themselves special...better than beasts...yet these same people are the ones that have the most beastly qualities...if that makes sense.

    Really liked your post...lots of good stuff.....

    peace
    Yeah I was thinking about that. I understand why people do what they do, I just don't think it's nessecary or even good for us in the whole. And thanks :)
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  • callen
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    onelongsong wrote:
    men acting like women (to me) is pretending to be something they're not. no religion involved in my opinion at all.

    just shows how you've been programed....theres just absolutely nothing different between two men kissing and a man and woman....one couple has two outies..and other an outie and an innie......now two innies....woo hoo. ..
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  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    gue_barium wrote:
    What kind of reply is that? It was about agnosticism.

    Personally, I think agnosticism is the primary Evil in the world today.

    Hehee.

    Well, maybe not. That would be calling a lot of 14-to-22-year-olds the evil of the world today.

    Come to think of it, in the consumerism modem...I may have a point.
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  • hippiemom
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    onelongsong wrote:
    um; i've stated many times that the bible was written and assembled by flawed men. it tells a small portion of a story.

    i find homosexuality discusting. no religion involved. i see 2 guys kissing and i want to puke. men acting like women (to me) is pretending to be something they're not. no religion involved in my opinion at all.
    I find beef liver disgusting. I see someone eating it and I want to puke. The sight, the smell .... man, is it nasty! I get physically sick, I can't be anywhere near it.

    I don't think my being sickened gives me the right to enact legislation prohibiting everyone else from eating beef liver though.
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  • callen
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    Pearl Jam and toast wrote:
    Yeah I was thinking about that. I understand why people do what they do, I just don't think it's nessecary or even good for us in the whole. And thanks :)
    really past its usefulness......I mean we've pretty much conquored the planet...and driving it to dust.....just too bad we can't somehow suppress this instinct...oh well. ITS EVOLUUUUUUTTTTION BAAABY....da da da da...da da da da....
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  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    callen wrote:
    just shows how you've been programed....theres just absolutely nothing different between two men kissing and a man and woman....one couple has two outies..and other an outie and an innie......now two innies....woo hoo. ..

    he likes 'pizzles'. buffalo pizzles.
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  • callen
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    hippiemom wrote:
    I find beef liver disgusting. I see someone eating it and I want to puke. The sight, the smell .... man, is it nasty! I get physically sick, I can't be anywhere near it.

    I don't think my being sickened gives me the right to enact legislation prohibiting everyone else from eating beef liver though.

    we do need to ban Liver....I mean make it against the law....my mom would start cooking it and I'd run away from home for a week........evil...just evil.
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  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    hippiemom wrote:
    I find beef liver disgusting. I see someone eating it and I want to puke. The sight, the smell .... man, is it nasty! I get physically sick, I can't be anywhere near it.

    I don't think my being sickened gives me the right to enact legislation prohibiting everyone else from eating beef liver though.

    It's amazing to me that we get along like we do. I love liver and onions. MMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
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  • onelongsong
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    hippiemom wrote:
    I find beef liver disgusting. I see someone eating it and I want to puke. The sight, the smell .... man, is it nasty! I get physically sick, I can't be anywhere near it.

    I don't think my being sickened gives me the right to enact legislation prohibiting everyone else from eating beef liver though.

    i don't enact legislation. i raise buffalo and do nutritional research. i'm entitled to my opinion like everyone else. he/she asked my opinion and i gave it.
  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
    Pearl Jam and toast wrote:
    Do you really believe your religion had no part in shaping your belief about homosexuality? Honestly? A person's religion shapes their beliefs. And it's the same way with society and culture. You've been bred out of a Christian culture and family (I'm assuming). That shaped the person you are today, and part of that is your disgust with homosexuality.

    You can believe what you want to believe, but be honest with yourself.

    oh, well pj&t I would just like to point out that acceptance or rejection of homosexuality isn't always based on religious belief. I do believe that it has become more acceptable to a wider demographic since the AIDS epidemic forced homosexuality into the lime light. I think that particular generations in society find it more acceptable than others. Nothing to do with religion. And certainly I can say that here in Australia, where we are not considered overly religious, in particular age groups and socio economic groups homosexuality is still considered not quite right.
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  • callen
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    gue_barium wrote:
    he likes 'pizzles'. buffalo pizzles.
    no idea what this means....is it age???
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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    Jeanie wrote:
    oh, well pj&t I would just like to point out that acceptance or rejection of homosexuality isn't always based on religious belief. I do believe that it has become more acceptable to a wider demographic since the AIDS epidemic forced homosexuality into the lime light. I think that particular generations in society find it more acceptable than others. Nothing to do with religion. And certainly I can say that here in Australia, where we are not considered overly religious, in particular age groups and socio economic groups homosexuality is still considered not quite right.

    I also think there are times folks don't use religion as the reason for not liking homosexuality.....but I do think they use religion to help justify their position. There are though alot (at least here in the US) that do take the christian stance..and go with it. No absolutes....as we've been learing on this wonderful board.
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  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    onelongsong wrote:
    i don't enact legislation. i raise buffalo and do nutritional research. i'm entitled to my opinion like everyone else. he/she asked my opinion and i gave it.
    You asked atheists why they get angry with religious people, and the atheists in this thread have made it clear that what angers us most is when people try to force their religious beliefs on the larger society, and we have used laws against gay marriage as an example. If you do not support these laws, then your opinion of homosexuals doesn't interest us and I don't know why you'd mention it at all. If you're in favor of it being legal, we don't have any conflict :)
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  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
    callen wrote:
    just shows how you've been programed....theres just absolutely nothing different between two men kissing and a man and woman....one couple has two outies..and other an outie and an innie......now two innies....woo hoo. ..

    ok, so I have hoards of gay and lesbian friends. close friends, dear friends who I love and spend time with, but fact is I have absolutely no desire to watch them play tonsil hockey while I'm around. but then I can't really tolerate public displays of affection amongst hetero couples either.
    I think perhaps this is a generational thing.
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  • norm
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    Jeanie wrote:
    ok, so I have hoards of gay and lesbian friends. close friends, dear friends who I love and spend time with, but fact is I have absolutely no desire to watch them play tonsil hockey while I'm around. but then I can't really tolerate public displays of affection amongst hetero couples either.
    I think perhaps this is a generational thing.

    same here kiddo.......:)

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