Putin: U.S. incited conflict in Georgia

RolandTD20Kdrummer
RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
edited August 2008 in A Moving Train
Well it sure as hell wouldn't be the first time this scenario has happened....(to put it lightly). The term "same old...same old" comes to mind....

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2008/08/28/Putin_US_incited_conflict_in_Georgia/UPI-40231219949921/

" SOCHI, Russia, Aug. 28 (UPI) -- Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin, in a CNN interview Thursday, accused U.S. leaders of inciting the war in Georgia to influence the U.S. election.

"If my guesses are confirmed, I could suspect that someone in the U.S. triggered this conflict on purpose in order to escalate the situation and create a competitive advantage for one of the U.S. presidential

candidates," he said.

Robert Wood, a spokesman for the U.S. State Department called Putin's claim "ludicrous."

"Russia is to blame for this crisis, and the world is responding to what Russia has done," he said.

Putin, interviewed in the resort of Sochi on the Black Sea, said that the United States trained and equipped the Georgian army and incited President Mikheil Saakashvili to send troops to bring the breakaway region of South Ossetia.

"U.S. citizens were indeed in the area in conflict," Putin said. "They were acting in implementing those orders doing as they were ordered, and the only one who can give such orders is their leader." "
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • MrBrian
    MrBrian Posts: 2,672
    Oh my bad, didnt see this thread earlier otherwise I would not of made the same one.

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  • macgyver06
    macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Well it sure as hell wouldn't be the first time this scenario has happened....(to put it lightly). The term "same old...same old" comes to mind....

    http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2008/08/28/Putin_US_incited_conflict_in_Georgia/UPI-40231219949921/

    " SOCHI, Russia, Aug. 28 (UPI) -- Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin, in a CNN interview Thursday, accused U.S. leaders of inciting the war in Georgia to influence the U.S. election.

    "If my guesses are confirmed, I could suspect that someone in the U.S. triggered this conflict on purpose in order to escalate the situation and create a competitive advantage for one of the U.S. presidential

    candidates," he said.

    Robert Wood, a spokesman for the U.S. State Department called Putin's claim "ludicrous."

    "Russia is to blame for this crisis, and the world is responding to what Russia has done," he said.

    Putin, interviewed in the resort of Sochi on the Black Sea, said that the United States trained and equipped the Georgian army and incited President Mikheil Saakashvili to send troops to bring the breakaway region of South Ossetia.

    "U.S. citizens were indeed in the area in conflict," Putin said. "They were acting in implementing those orders doing as they were ordered, and the only one who can give such orders is their leader." "


    fuck vladamir putin and his government. and fuck that guy from rocky IV
  • MrBrian
    MrBrian Posts: 2,672
    cincybearcat wrote:
    I think the Obama campaign is orchestrating Putin's reaction and words abotu the US orchestrating the conflict in Georgia in order to favor McCain in the race, in order to favor Obama in the race...it never ends.

    Shocking....Putin blaming it all on America...talk abotu your old, tired politics.


    It is tired politics, The whole thing! Russia invading a country, america not liking it but perhaps having other reasons.

    But that's politics,goes around and around. Very few countries seem to be moving forward. They are just spinning around in a circle faster and think they are going someplace new.
  • MrBrian
    MrBrian Posts: 2,672
    macgyver06 wrote:
    fuck vladamir putin and his government. and fuck that guy from rocky IV

    You know, he's really from sweden? He was paid off by the americans to play a bad steroid taking russian.

    American lies!
  • freindlyfired
    freindlyfired Posts: 297
    MrBrian wrote:
    It is tired politics, The whole thing! Russia invading a country, america not liking it but perhaps having other reasons.

    But that's politics,goes around and around. Very few countries seem to be moving forward. They are just spinning around in a circle faster and think they are going someplace new.

    I wonder if you and your family were killed for some senseless reason if you would call it "politics". Politics is getting elected, this is life and death.

    Simpleton
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,976
    freindlyfired wrote:
    I wonder if you and your family were killed for some senseless reason if you would call it "politics". Politics is getting elected, this is life and death.

    Simpleton


    So, calling it life or death does what exactly?
    hippiemom = goodness
  • MrBrian
    MrBrian Posts: 2,672
    freindlyfired wrote:
    I wonder if you and your family were killed for some senseless reason if you would call it "politics". Politics is getting elected, this is life and death.

    Simpleton

    Politics is just getting elected? Ok clown,
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    we know roland, america is to blame for every wrong doing and conflict in the world :rolleyes:

    get a new playbook, your's is old and tired
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    my2hands wrote:
    we know roland, america is to blame for every wrong doing and conflict in the world :rolleyes:

    get a new playbook, your's is old and tired


    so is your whining about what you don't like about me....

    sorry but it's true...

    so ditto on the playbook comment
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • spyguy
    spyguy Posts: 613
    my2hands wrote:
    we know roland, america is to blame for every wrong doing and conflict in the world :rolleyes:

    get a new playbook, your's is old and tired

    well played. to his defense, I've noticed a few like him around here. its a shared playbook, not just his.
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    spyguy wrote:
    well played. to his defense, I've noticed a few like him around here. its a shared playbook, not just his.


    A little peek into US foreign policy is all one need to do

    history is history.....what do you want me to do about it.....it's all true.

    sorry if reality sucks for some people...but that's what the deal is.

    boo hoo I guess..
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun
    LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    well the russians said it so it must be true.

    is anyone going to explain to me why America instigated this and put their interests in the region at risk with little or no support beyond limpdicked condemnations?

    as usual you make no sense.
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    MrSmith wrote:
    well the russians said it so it must be true.


    is anyone going to explain to me why America instigated this and put their interests in the region at risk with little or no support beyond limpdicked condemnations?

    as usual you make no sense.

    Look into the past... it's not a stretch of the imagination by any means.

    In fact it would be par for the course and business as usual.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun
    LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Look into the past... it's not a stretch of the imagination by any means.

    In fact it would be par for the course and business as usual.
    well there you go. undeniable proof. i stand corrected. Russia's past is spotless.
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    MrSmith wrote:
    well there you go. undeniable proof. i stand corrected.

    Historical facts are called history and put into books for a reason....it's because they really happened.

    So anyhow...call it far fetched....but that would be out of the ordinary given the factually historical track record.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun
    LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Historical facts are called history and put into books for a reason....it's because they really happened.

    So anyhow...call it far fetched....but that would be out of the ordinary given the factually historical track record.
    you know what happens when you ASSume. so print some facts about why the west would instigate this event and put their interests in the region at risk with little or no support beyond limpdicked condemnations. Do you believe Russia is incapable of the very same thing you accuse the US of?
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    MrSmith wrote:
    you know what happens when you ASSume. so print some facts about why the west would instigate this event. Do you believe Russia is incapable of the very same thing you accuse the US of?

    put it this way... Obama's adviser...good ol "Zbig" the upcoming advisor to the newly elected US saviour...has openly stated he wants a new war with Russia....as in he believes it's not only desirable...but necessary.

    The same guy that pulled all the shit in the past...yeah well he's back. In fact he never left.

    far fetched assumption eh?
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • spyguy
    spyguy Posts: 613
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Look into the past... it's not a stretch of the imagination by any means.

    In fact it would be par for the course and business as usual.

    if you are such a genius man of history why are you ignoring Russia's ?
  • MrBrian
    MrBrian Posts: 2,672
    spyguy wrote:
    if you are such a genius man of history why are you ignoring Russia's ?

    Perhaps it is a bit of conjecture, but still at this point the signs seem to show America as having something to do with this.

    But again it's still early, not all the info is out yet and it would be wrong to come to a conclusion at this point. Time will tell what the truth is and I feel that we will know fairly soon.

    History is the best guide, Both america and russia have dirty histories. Perhaps they both are to blame = in this? Perhaps the US set up a trap, Russia stupid enough to fall for it? Or perhaps Russia wanted to fall for it so it can use that as a reason to do something to the US? or some other country? Perhaps sell weapons to a place America may not like so much.

    So many possibilities,
  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun
    LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    MrBrian wrote:
    Perhaps it is a bit of conjecture, but still at this point the signs seem to show America as having something to do with this.

    But again it's still early, not all the info is out yet and it would be wrong to come to a conclusion at this point. Time will tell what the truth is and I feel that we will know fairly soon.

    History is the best guide, Both america and russia have dirty histories. Perhaps they both are to blame = in this? Perhaps the US set up a trap, Russia stupid enough to fall for it? Or perhaps Russia wanted to fall for it so it can use that as a reason to do something to the US? or some other country? Perhaps sell weapons to a place America may not like so much.

    So many possibilities,
    yes

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