Putin: U.S. incited conflict in Georgia

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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    spyguy wrote:
    if you are such a genius man of history why are you ignoring Russia's ?

    Last time I checked you don't have to be a genius to open up a history book, and I place more emphasis on whatever country is currently running their war machines at or near full throttle.

    seems logical.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • spyguy
    spyguy Posts: 613
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Last time I checked you don't have to be a genius to open up a history book, and I place more emphasis on whatever country is currently running their war machines at or near full throttle.

    seems logical.

    I suggest opening up those history books again. you missed the chapter on the USSR.
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    spyguy wrote:
    I suggest opening up those history books again. you missed the chapter on the USSR.

    Who was wanting to put up a missile shield not too long ago on foreign soil?

    hmm
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • spyguy
    spyguy Posts: 613
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Who was wanting to put up a missile shield not too long ago on foreign soil?

    hmm

    a missile defense system? the US. and? my advice still stands, Russia's history is far from innocent. Georgia used to be under Russian rule. you at least knew that right?
  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun
    LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Last time I checked you don't have to be a genius to open up a history book, and I place more emphasis on whatever country is currently running their war machines at or near full throttle.

    seems logical.
    thats not logic.
    no the logical thing is to recognize whats true in one instance may not be true in another and only form opinions based on factual evidence. you automatically take the point of view thats most anti-american, regardless of the facts, or the lack there of. you know you do this. you've already admitted you have no proof to back up your beliefs in this instance, and instead rely on your old standbys: assumption and prejudice.

    i realize this concept may be impossible for you to comprehend, but please work to try.

    but then again look who i'm talking to.
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    MrSmith wrote:
    thats not logic.
    no the logical thing is to recognize whats true in one instance may not be true in another and only form opinions based on factual evidence. you automatically take the point of view thats most anti-american, regardless of the facts, or the lack there of. you know you do this. you've already admitted you have no proof to back up your beliefs in this instance, and instead rely on your old standbys: assumption and prejudice.

    i realize this concept may be impossible for you to comprehend, but please work to try.

    but then again look who i'm talking to.

    So extrapolation is not logical..

    Ok if you say so.

    You just turned science on it's ear...

    edit: and I love how it gets personal so quickly for you...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun
    LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

    edit: and I love how it gets personal so quickly for you...
    i'm sorry, i just find your willfull and persistent ignorance and refusal to debate the facts fascinating and revolting at the same time. its amazing to watch. you're pure preconcieved notion personified. even after being ran mental circles around by so many people for so long, you still keep at it. you are tenacious, i'll give you that, heh. psychologists could write books on you.

    looks like you will be around a lot longer after i'm banned., but i gotta vacation to flooded New Orleans coming up anyway.
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    MrSmith wrote:
    i'm sorry, i just find your willfull and persistent ignorance and refusal to debate the facts fascinating and revolting at the same time. its amazing to watch. you're pure preconcieved notion personified. even after being ran mental circles around by so many people for so long, you still keep at it. you are tenacious, i'll give you that, heh. psychologists could write books on you.

    looks like you will be around a lot longer after i'm banned., but i gotta vacation to flooded New Orleans coming up anyway.

    That's you interpretation... you can feel free to entertain it within the confines of your thoughts in order to seek happiness from it. It changes little. You are biased against me and I could care less to change it. It is meaningless to me as to what you think about me on these issues really. When I start seeing factual information aside from opinion I might raise an eyebrow... however so few choose to go this route.

    btw...was the going to New Orleans thing included at the end supposed to be something that people would be impressed by?

    In any event...have a great vacation.

    till next time.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • JOEJOEJOE
    JOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,863
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    That's you interpretation... you can feel free to entertain it within the confines of your thoughts in order to seek happiness from it. It changes little. You are biased against me and I could care less to change it. It is meaningless to me as to what you think about me on these issues really. When I start seeing factual information aside from opinion I might raise an eyebrow... however so few choose to go this route.

    btw...was the going to New Orleans thing included at the end supposed to be something that people would be impressed by?

    In any event...have a great vacation.

    till next time.

    Do you have factual information about why some people must always state how they don't care what others think of them or their opinions?

    Never have I seen someone get so defensive, or have such a wall around them. I hope one day you find some warmth, my nemesis.
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    JOEJOEJOE wrote:
    Do you have factual information about why some people must always state how they don't care what others think of them or their opinions?

    Never have I seen someone get so defensive, or have such a wall around them. I hope one day you find some warmth, my nemesis.


    Ah...it's a long time trend here....It's called kill the messenger. I just like calling people out on it when they fail at addressing the facts, and just lower the quality of the thread with personal indifferences and other idiosyncrasies.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • fuck
    fuck Posts: 4,069
    MrSmith wrote:
    is anyone going to explain to me why America instigated this and put their interests in the region at risk with little or no support beyond limpdicked condemnations?
    HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH

    SERIOUSLY?!

    are you being sarcastic here?!

    have you heard of Iraq???
  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun
    LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    _outlaw wrote:
    HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH

    SERIOUSLY?!

    are you being sarcastic here?!

    have you heard of Iraq???
    huh? they backed up their interests in Iraq with the full might of the US army and support of its allies and annihilated the whole goddamned government and army of Iraq.

    against Russia their plan was what? attack them (if you can even call it that) with the combined might of a small, patheticly weak country and a few whiny condemnations? and risk losing their friendly ally's oil pipelines and missile shield lands? THIS WAS THEIR PLAN?!?!? i know Bush is an idiot, but come on. you will have to do better than that.

    i mean, maybe the west did instigate it, but show me what they had to gain in South Ossetia. it was an honest question.

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