Art teacher in hot water over topless photos

well you both need to pay better attention. links are included in the very first post. now unless they have been taken offline, i had seen them when this first all occurred.

decides2dream wrote:

well you both need to pay better attention. links are included in the very first post. now unless they have been taken offline, i had seen them when this first all occurred.

Christ, I'm talking about nakie pics!!!

That's not such a smooth move, but c'mon, she's showing pretty much what is shown on tv, they need to get off her ass and let her teach.

art for art's sake.

Milestone wrote:

Whatever.

I visited the Louve in Paris a few months ago. There were school children walking all around that place, which is filled with nude statues and paintings. Does that mean that there will be an increase in the French porn industry???

Come on.

everyone is focusing on the wrong part of the issue. it does not matter what the action is - if she violated her contract, they have the right to terminate, or whatever appropriate action is outlined. does no one believe in contracts? what's their purpose if one may violate at will?

btw - i believe she taught in a HS.

and, also....school children brought on a fieldtrip to a museum must have parental consent, thus the parents acknowledge what their children may see and agree. i don't even think it's the nudity per se that is the issue...but the nudity that is of the teacher, and it was more than mere breasts...not that it makes a difference, there were a few very clear/explicit photos of full frontal nudity. i think at worst, the worry is the teacher/student relationship, the respect and seriousness, etc.

however, NONE of this even matters, at all. the ONLY thing that matters is, what is outlined in her contract, that she agreed to, and if in fact she has violated said agreement.

typical art teacher, calling nude pictures "art". she's lifting weights and crap like that, it's obvious is ain't art. hell by her reasoning i just left some prettyh fantastic art in the toilet bowl. and tghe "higher moral standard" of public teachers????? bullshit

Pearl Jam and toast wrote:

sorry i misread this : " said Kate Brooks, director of career services for liberal arts students at the University of Texas at Austin."

I can understand being upset for a highschool teacher doing that.

i still don't really see anything really wrong with it, but they're minors and i doubt she even got parental consent for it.

I wouldn't have a problem with it per se (although it DEFINETLY depends on the situation), but that desicion isn't for her to make, it's for the parents to make.

as i said, the issue isn't even how i feel about it at all...is it art...is it acceptable...etc. really makes not one bit of difference. as far as i am concerned, and what anyone should truly be looking at is: did it violate her contract or not? that's it, that's the issue. if she signed it, she agreed to it, end of story.

Jam-fan wrote:

typical art teacher, calling nude pictures "art". she's lifting weights and crap like that, it's obvious is ain't art. hell by her reasoning i just left some prettyh fantastic art in the toilet bowl. and tghe "higher moral standard" of public teachers????? bullshit

i have no idea what that is even supposed to mean. what exactly is a 'typical' art teacher. nudity can and is a part of many great works of art. doesn't matter your opinion on it. besides the fact, these are not self-portraits...so it's not ever HER art, butr someone else's, she merely modeled....not that makes any difference. i thought the offending images weren't even visable anymore? some of them were definitely very interesting, excellent use of light and coloring, composed beautifully, etc. not even the point though....it's not a debate over 'is it art'...which seems silly in any case...but moreso, did she violate her teaching contract by posing, and allowing public, such images. everyone seems to be focusing elsewhere.

i taught art for 10 years, knew/met many other art teachers...don't think there is any particular, 'typical' demographic for an art teacher, except a love and passion for art.

Before I read the story, I went straight to the pics. (Removed).

What does that say about me:)

Jam-fan wrote:

typical art teacher, calling nude pictures "art". she's lifting weights and crap like that, it's obvious is ain't art. hell by her reasoning i just left some prettyh fantastic art in the toilet bowl. and tghe "higher moral standard" of public teachers????? bullshit

That's what I tell my wife when she tells me to hurry up and come out of the bathroom. You can't rush a work of art.

Pacomc79 wrote:

I really don't understand why nudity is such a big deal to people in the US.

it's only an issue with some people, not all.

Pacomc79 wrote:

Ok, that being said, who cares. Obviously she's a good art teacher, maybe she can get a gig in a university, or in Las Vegas teaching art. Or New York or France.

nobody said she couldn't do that.

Pacomc79 wrote:

If they are that bent out of shape for what she does at home. Tell them to pound sand.

maybe the school is bent out of shape because she broke a part of her contract?

Pacomc79 wrote:

What were they doing looking for nude pictures anyhow hmmmm. Maybe the school board should be fired too by those standards?

taken directly from the article in the first post of this thread:

"The photos came to light last month as a result of a feud over ceramics equipment with another art teacher, according to sworn affidavits. Students who had seen the pictures showed the teacher, who then notified school officials."

students who had seen the pictures informed another teacher. we're talking high school students. now, i know when i was in high school if i saw a picture of a naked woman, it didn't scar me for life. but i'm pretty damn sure if my mom was told that one of my teachers posed nude and the pictures were online where anyone could see them, she'd be pissed. do you honestly think any high school in the country wouldn't do anything if they found out one of their teachers posed nude and the pictures were online where (obviously) some of the students had already seen them?