Art teacher in hot water over topless photos
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Art teacher in hot water over topless photos
AUSTIN, Texas (AP) -- Until they found the topless photos, Austin High School officials considered Tamara Hoover an excellent art teacher with a knack for helping students find their creativity.
Now, she's fighting for her job.
The photos, which were posted on Flickr.com by her partner, depict Hoover in the shower, lifting weights, getting dressed, in bed and doing other routine activities.
Hoover said Friday the photos are art and makes no apologies.
"I'm an artist and I'm going to participate in the arts," Hoover said. "If that's not something they want me to do then I want to be told that. I don't feel as if I was doing anything that was beyond expectations."
The school district said the photos were inappropriate and violate the "higher moral standard" expected of public school teachers. As she was escorted out of class last month she was told that she's become an ineffective teacher.
The district wants to revoke her teaching certification, which would keep her out of Texas classrooms permanently. Hoover will appeal the ruling and is prepared to take the case to court, she said.
Hoover's abrupt dismissal highlights a new concern for employees: Your boss has Internet access, too.
"People don't realize when they put their entire diary out there, they're giving very private information to the public," said Kate Brooks, director of career services for liberal arts students at the University of Texas at Austin.
The photos came to light last month as a result of a feud over ceramics equipment with another art teacher, according to sworn affidavits. Students who had seen the pictures showed the teacher, who then notified school officials.
Austen Clements, one of Hoover's students, noted that many artists have nude pictures, including Georgia O'Keeffe.
"If Georgia O'Keeffe wanted to teach at Austin High, I don't think they'd say, 'No, you have nude pictures online,"' Clements said.
The school was attended by President Bush's daughters, Barbara and Jenna.
Find this article at:
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/06/16/naked.teacher.ap/index.html
pics can be found here
http://savemanny.blogspot.com/2006/06/hs-teacher-ms-hoovers-artistic-nudes.html
Art teacher in hot water over topless photos
AUSTIN, Texas (AP) -- Until they found the topless photos, Austin High School officials considered Tamara Hoover an excellent art teacher with a knack for helping students find their creativity.
Now, she's fighting for her job.
The photos, which were posted on Flickr.com by her partner, depict Hoover in the shower, lifting weights, getting dressed, in bed and doing other routine activities.
Hoover said Friday the photos are art and makes no apologies.
"I'm an artist and I'm going to participate in the arts," Hoover said. "If that's not something they want me to do then I want to be told that. I don't feel as if I was doing anything that was beyond expectations."
The school district said the photos were inappropriate and violate the "higher moral standard" expected of public school teachers. As she was escorted out of class last month she was told that she's become an ineffective teacher.
The district wants to revoke her teaching certification, which would keep her out of Texas classrooms permanently. Hoover will appeal the ruling and is prepared to take the case to court, she said.
Hoover's abrupt dismissal highlights a new concern for employees: Your boss has Internet access, too.
"People don't realize when they put their entire diary out there, they're giving very private information to the public," said Kate Brooks, director of career services for liberal arts students at the University of Texas at Austin.
The photos came to light last month as a result of a feud over ceramics equipment with another art teacher, according to sworn affidavits. Students who had seen the pictures showed the teacher, who then notified school officials.
Austen Clements, one of Hoover's students, noted that many artists have nude pictures, including Georgia O'Keeffe.
"If Georgia O'Keeffe wanted to teach at Austin High, I don't think they'd say, 'No, you have nude pictures online,"' Clements said.
The school was attended by President Bush's daughters, Barbara and Jenna.
Find this article at:
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/06/16/naked.teacher.ap/index.html
pics can be found here
http://savemanny.blogspot.com/2006/06/hs-teacher-ms-hoovers-artistic-nudes.html
My whole life
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
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not exactly a smart move, considering she can't really control the age limit of who's viewing the pictures once they're posted.0
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well now that she's out in the open, if she's an excellent art teacher, it would be a shame to not let her teach again? kids are smart, they'd understand morality.I need to finish writing.0
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when you are a teacher there are things you absolutely should not do. Your students should not be able to log onto the internet and see you naked. I don't care if it's art or not.
this really is a no-brainer to me.
It also makes me wonder why I didn't have teachers like this.everybody wants the most they can possibly get
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Is it me or do these things always happen in Texas?THANK YOU, LOSTDAWG!
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Collin wrote:Is it me or do these things always happen in Texas?
Is it me or is this what's considered 'art' in Texas?
'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'
- the great Sir Leo Harrison0 -
I disagree with the school district.Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V0
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she seems pretty kinky to me based on a few of those pics...my kind of girl
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rightondude wrote:not exactly a smart move, considering she can't really control the age limit of who's viewing the pictures once they're posted.
I thought she didn't put them on the internet but her friend, the artist that made these pictures, did?THANK YOU, LOSTDAWG!
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this is so funny. last week there was a thread here about a teacher in texas who might go to prison for 20 years for sleeping with an 18 year old student. what is going on in Texas? anyway, this story to be so stupid. she is an Art teacher. and lo and behold she does art in her spare time. first off, she did not put the pictures on the internet. does anyone find it funny that she can be fired for having pictures on the internet but yet Texas voted for a president who was caught drinking and driving. it's just sex people.0
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As I understand it, those were nude photos, not porn.rightondude wrote:not exactly a smart move, considering she can't really control the age limit of who's viewing the pictures once they're posted.
Age has nothing to do with it or don't you take kids to antiquity museums? Plenty of naked statues there...0 -
More nonsense for idiots to get all worked up about.
Maybe if Americans weren't so uptight ........with a huge stick up their collective butts, they would teach their children that the naked human body is not an evil, disgusting thing; but a natural, beautiful part of nature's work- then no one would be " dramatized" by nudity.
How in the world this ever made it to CNN, is beyond my comprehension. It is a non-issue, in my opinion.
I'm more offended and disgusted by teachers who preach, spread or routinely refer to the word of "their" god and religion. Force-feeding one's religion (god) down innocent children's throats, is so very manipulative and coniving. By far, that has a much more profound negative impact, than nudity ever could.
This shows how truely fucked up Americans are regarding nudity.
Bombared the TV and landscape with images and suggestions that an all out invasion and war (bombing, killing, murder) is indeed "Patriotic" and "Justified". God Bless!
But nudity is going to destroy the very moral fabric of our society:rolleyes:
What a bunch a fuckin' idiots.
Where's a Janet Jackson exposed nipple, when you need one the most!0 -
what grade is this?? ... not that it should make a difference ...
but i was drawing nudes in grade 10 at my high school art class ... wtf??0 -
NMyTree wrote:More nonsense for idiots to get all worked up about.
Maybe if Americans weren't so uptight ........with a huge stick up their collective butts, they would teach their children that the naked human body is not an evil, disgusting thing; but a natural, beautiful part of nature's work- then no one would be " dramatized" by nudity.
How in the world this ever made it to CNN, is beyond my comprehension. It is a non-issue, in my opinion.
I'm more offended and disgusted by teachers who preach, spread or routinely refer to the word of "their" god and religion. Force-feeding one's religion (god) down innocent children's throats, is so very manipulative and coniving. By far, that has a much more profound negative impact, than nudity ever could.
This shows how truely fucked up Americans are regarding nudity.
Bombared the TV and landscape with images and suggestions that an all out invasion and war (bombing, killing, murder) is indeed "Patriotic" and "Justified". God Bless!
But nudity is going to destroy the very moral fabric of our society:rolleyes:
What a bunch a fuckin' idiots.
Where's a Janet Jackson exposed nipple, when you need one the most!
I couldn't have said it better myself."It's not British music, it's American music. Now c'mon." -Bob Dylan0 -
NMyTree wrote:More nonsense for idiots to get all worked up about.
Maybe if Americans weren't so uptight ........with a huge stick up their collective butts, they would teach their children that the naked human body is not an evil, disgusting thing; but a natural, beautiful part of nature's work- then no one would be " dramatized" by nudity.
How in the world this ever made it to CNN, is beyond my comprehension. It is a non-issue, in my opinion.
I'm more offended and disgusted by teachers who preach, spread or routinely refer to the word of "their" god and religion. Force-feeding one's religion (god) down innocent children's throats, is so very manipulative and coniving. By far, that has a much more profound negative impact, than nudity ever could.
This shows how truely fucked up Americans are regarding nudity.
Bombared the TV and landscape with images and suggestions that an all out invasion and war (bombing, killing, murder) is indeed "Patriotic" and "Justified". God Bless!
But nudity is going to destroy the very moral fabric of our society:rolleyes:
What a bunch a fuckin' idiots.
Where's a Janet Jackson exposed nipple, when you need one the most!
We may look at nudity differently than you.. it doesn't make us stupid. And though I doubt many people see anything vile or wrong in these pictures - she is still a school teacher. There is money in porn in our country - and even child porn. The message a teacher sends to her students is important. It is worth a look to see if the message is too complex for the students.
A young impressionable student may find this to be the deciding factor as she was weighing posing nude for money.
I am not sure if I agree with a dismissal.. but if I were running a school, I'd ask that my teachers don't pose nude - or work somewhere else.
America may be stupid about nudity.. but this is our society, and the children influenced by this teacher have to live in it whether they like it or not.0 -
Abuskedti wrote:We may look at nudity differently than you.. it doesn't make us stupid. And though I doubt many people see anything vile or wrong in these pictures - she is still a school teacher. There is money in porn in our country - and even child porn. The message a teacher sends to her students is important. It is worth a look to see if the message is too complex for the students.
A young impressionable student may find this to be the deciding factor as she was weighing posing nude for money.
I am not sure if I agree with a dismissal.. but if I were running a school, I'd ask that my teachers don't pose nude - or work somewhere else.
America may be stupid about nudity.. but this is our society, and the children influenced by this teacher have to live in it whether they like it or not.
You're a parent, you know this.
Our children copy, imitate and mirror our behavior, attitudes and perceptions at a very early age (eventually they grow up and develope their own opinions). If one reacts negatively to something or preaches disgust, fear and immorality about specific issues and events-then our children will be traumatized and upset when these specific issues or events arise.
Just like with Janet Jackson. Not one kid saw a damn thing or even realized what had happened. It happened so fast. Only after the idot adults over-dramatized, over-reacted, slowed down the video, zoomed in on the breast and used one million pointers to identify the " exposed breast/nipple" on the screen, did any kid realize what had happened and develope an opinion on it.
If as a parent you teach kids the human body is evil, naughty, disgusting, immoral or perverse; then that's what they will believe and react that way.0 -
NMyTree wrote:You're a parent, you know this.
Our children copy, imitate and mirror our behavior, attitudes and perceptions at a very early age (eventually they grow up and develope their own opinions). If one reacts negatively to something or preaches disgust, fear and immorality about specific issues and events-then our children will be traumatized and upset when these specific issues or events arise.
Just like with Janet Jackson. Not one kid saw a damn thing or even realized what had happened. It happened so fast. Only after the idot adults over-dramatized, over-reacted, slowed down the video, zoomed in on the breast and used one million pointers to identify the " exposed breast/nipple" on the screen, did any kid realize what had happened and develope an opinion on it.
If as a parent you teach kids the human body is evil, naughty, disgusting, immoral or perverse; then that's what they will believe and react that way.
I don't think anyone is saying its evil. Just perhaps inappropriate for published photos for a school teacher. If that was my daughter, I'd be proud. As a teacher that teaches minors... I don't like it. I am making an assumption that this is a high school or below teacher - if its college.. I take it all back..0 -
Why the fuck didn't I take art in high school?one foot in the door
the other foot in the gutter
sweet smell that they adore
I think I'd rather smother
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i think in this particular instance, it all goes back to her contract. what exactly is said/specified in her contract, and whatever that is, she agreed to it when she signed it. that's it.
now, as a former art teacher myself, i can tell you in NO way would i have a job if i did the same...definitely a clause in my contract that covered this and called it off limits. is that right? i don't know. obviously, i am ALL for free artistic expression, but when you become a teacher, particularly for HS and younger......it's not even a question of nudity being 'bad'...but moreso to what degree your students look upon you, etc. perhaps, again, if our culture wasn't as prudish about nudity as it is, it would not hold the same weight...but given where we are today, it's a completely different scenario.Stay with me...
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow0 -
Where are the PICS!!!!"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity but they've always worked for me." Gonzo
'If my fuckin' ex-wife told me to take care of her dog while her and her new boyfriend went to Honolulu, I'd tell her to go fuck herself." -The Dude
Whisky Drinker, Non-Hunter from Denver.0 -
denverfan wrote:Where are the PICS!!!!
I second that.one foot in the door
the other foot in the gutter
sweet smell that they adore
I think I'd rather smother
-The Replacements-0
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