Zack De La Rocha gives Bush Regime Hell

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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    B nice wrote:
    word

    old man vedder is like 80


    when he is 80, i will still be going to see him perform. hopefully :D
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    dont sweat it, i bet it is on the shelves by the end of 07' with a full tour in 08' (nice timing wouldnt ya say)
  • bubble_bobble
    bubble_bobble Posts: 2
    If RATM puts out a new album, I'm buying 5.
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    bubble_bobble wrote:
    If RATM puts out a new album, I'm buying 5.


    then start saving...
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    Cheguevara6 wrote:
    This gem of a quote from Zack from last nights Coachella Gig

    "Our current administration needs to be tried, hung and shot. We need to treat them like the war criminals they are."

    If you hate something, don't you do it too....

    Basically, he's admitting to being a hypocrite.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • Uncle Leo
    Uncle Leo Posts: 1,059
    soulsinging wrote:
    18 year olds are not children.

    They're not children, as defined by law, but they are kids in every practical sense.
    I cannot come up with a new sig till I get this egg off my face.
  • binauralman
    binauralman Posts: 83
    Personally I think Zack is being a hypocrite, he teaches about the NWO and how we should fight for our freedom but never mentions the number one answer to the pain of death and war which is LOVE.

    To me more and more bands are doing this today, teaching how we're being controlled but fight back with words of cynical negativity and ultimately hatred which in turn is being replaced with the same thing these fighters are fighting for.

    Pearl Jam is doing there job along with U2 and other numerous bands.. they simply state love, the only way we will survive on this planet without a savior.

    Guess nows a better time then ever to have faith, America is changing dramatically by the day.
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  • deadnothingbetter
    deadnothingbetter Posts: 2,202
    Uncle Leo wrote:
    They're not children, as defined by law, but they are kids in every practical sense.
    i've seen 18 year old "kids" outsmart me and beat me in arm wrestle at the same time! hell 18 year olds are not kids.... well, maybe cause i'm 23. does that mean i'm still a kid? i hope i'm still a kid.

    zach delarocha's political outrage gets boring, imo. he needs to focus on exploring new artistic boundaries rather than just plain ol' whinnin and complainin.
    This isn't the land of opportunity, it's the land of competition.
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    I know I'm not getting old yet because....I know of the term "Geritol" and that it's for old people, yet I have no idea what the heck it is, nor does it bother me to not know...

    As for old age....what would finally "do it for me" is if I ever at some point lose control of my sphincter. Jjust take me out behind the barn or the woodshed and set me free.

    I actually had this discussion with my brother. He said it would be if he could no longer practice martial arts for him...I came back with the failing sphincter perspective...we laughed.
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    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
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  • Uncle Leo
    Uncle Leo Posts: 1,059
    deadnothingbetter wrote:
    i've seen 18 year old "kids" outsmart me and beat me in arm wrestle at the same time! hell 18 year olds are not kids.... well, maybe cause i'm 23. does that mean i'm still a kid? i hope i'm still a kid.

    zach delarocha's political outrage gets boring, imo. he needs to focus on exploring new artistic boundaries rather than just plain ol' whinnin and complainin.

    Fine. Would it make everyone feel better to change it to "young people"?
    I cannot come up with a new sig till I get this egg off my face.
  • PJamGrunge10
    PJamGrunge10 California Posts: 596
    deadnothingbetter wrote:
    zach delarocha's political outrage gets boring, imo. he needs to focus on exploring new artistic boundaries rather than just plain ol' whinnin and complainin.


    It really is... he will never change anything or inspire others to do so... it's only enough to say "Yeah! he's right!" as they sit in their room listening to him on their iPod.
    Stone Gossard...riffmeister extraordinaire!

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  • mrwalkerb
    mrwalkerb Posts: 1,015
    PJamGrunge10 wrote:
    It really is... he will never change anything or inspire others to do so... it's only enough to say "Yeah! he's right!" as they sit in their room listening to him on their iPod.

    true because thousands if not tens of thousands of people don't know who the Zapatistas or Mumia (sic) are because of rage against teh machine or anything, they didn't politicize anyone while they were together
    "I'm not suicidal, except when I drink. That's why we don't all drink at the same time, there'd be no-one alive to drive home..."
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  • deadnothingbetter
    deadnothingbetter Posts: 2,202
    if there's anything better coming from mexico either zapatistas or whatnot then that's Cafe Tacuba. and much better than rage against the machine they are.
    This isn't the land of opportunity, it's the land of competition.
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    PJamGrunge10 wrote:
    It really is... he will never change anything or inspire others to do so... it's only enough to say "Yeah! he's right!" as they sit in their room listening to him on their iPod.

    Zach has inspired many people who otherwise wouldn't have had any interest in the cause he supports.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • deadnothingbetter
    deadnothingbetter Posts: 2,202
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    Zach has inspired many people who otherwise wouldn't have had any interest in the cause he supports.
    yeah and i bet you're one of them, huh?
    This isn't the land of opportunity, it's the land of competition.
  • musicismylife78
    musicismylife78 Posts: 6,116
    deadnothingbetter wrote:
    yeah and i bet you're one of them, huh?


    I am one of them. I became politically active the summer of 2000. I just got into rage then. I live in Hippie central Oregon, where the hippies run wild, and had some radical teacher but never, NEVER was taught in school about Mumia, Peltier, the zapatistas etc... That education came from Rage.

    Sure, Rage sold millions of records. Millions were probably all about Morello's guitar solos and Zach's flow, but millions were also inspired by their political message. Same with Ed's lyrics. Same with Joe Strummer's lyrics, Same with jello biafra. You have a segment that is into changing the world and listens to the band and educates themselves, and other fans are complete meatheads, who are all about groping female crowdsurfers.

    Rage changed my life. I was politicized because of them. And to suggest I am the only one is absurd. I am not alone.

    I know people who are like me, and have been altered and politicized by music, and that music to them isnt some kind of thing you throw on in the car and forget. Music is participatory, even for the audience.

    For all the haters, it was well documented that at the 99 WTO battle of seattle a large amount of Rage fans came down and protested. Go to any Free Mumia protest or Free Peltier protest. Theres going to be a Rage cohort there. I should know. I went to a benefit/birthday celebration for Peltier back in the day.

    I think its naive to think that music fans are brainless idiots who dont have a conscience. You ever heard Punk Rock? Dead Kennedys, the clash, the exploited, propaghandi, rancid?

    You dont need the entire country or entire Rage listener base to rise up and deny their Middle Class roots. You only need 5 percent of the country, of the audience. 5 percent. Thats all.

    Its naive to say music cant change the world and cant educate people and politicize people to action and cause. Band members we all know and love certainly feel music can change the world and can cause people to become activists, and ask Uncle Bruce, Uncle neil, Tom Morello, Kathleen Hanna, Beastie Boys, etc... if they think music is effective in trying to spread a political message?

    I dont think every rage listener read those books on the liner notes for Evil Empire, but you have to believe some did. I did. And I know I am not alone

    How many people took the time to learn about Leonard Peltier after seeing Freedom on MTV?

    How many people took the time to get involved in freeing Mumia after they included his information in the liner notes to the final record?

    How many people checked out info about Subcomandante Marcos after Zack talked about them?

    How many people read up on Chomsky after they had an interview with him on Battle for Mexico City DVD?

    My guess is millions didnt, but thousands DID!
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    deadnothingbetter wrote:
    yeah and i bet you're one of them, huh?

    Yeah, I say Zach was one of my inspirations. The amount of intensity and passion he puts out there I've always admired. What of it?
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • Staceb10
    Staceb10 Posts: 675
    I'm sure they are worried about Zack de la Rocha.
  • Kann
    Kann Posts: 1,146
    Cheguevara6 wrote:
    I am one of them. I became politically active the summer of 2000. I just got into rage then. I live in Hippie central Oregon, where the hippies run wild, and had some radical teacher but never, NEVER was taught in school about Mumia, Peltier, the zapatistas etc... That education came from Rage.

    Sure, Rage sold millions of records. Millions were probably all about Morello's guitar solos and Zach's flow, but millions were also inspired by their political message. Same with Ed's lyrics. Same with Joe Strummer's lyrics, Same with jello biafra. You have a segment that is into changing the world and listens to the band and educates themselves, and other fans are complete meatheads, who are all about groping female crowdsurfers.

    Rage changed my life. I was politicized because of them. And to suggest I am the only one is absurd. I am not alone.

    I know people who are like me, and have been altered and politicized by music, and that music to them isnt some kind of thing you throw on in the car and forget. Music is participatory, even for the audience.

    For all the haters, it was well documented that at the 99 WTO battle of seattle a large amount of Rage fans came down and protested. Go to any Free Mumia protest or Free Peltier protest. Theres going to be a Rage cohort there. I should know. I went to a benefit/birthday celebration for Peltier back in the day.

    I think its naive to think that music fans are brainless idiots who dont have a conscience. You ever heard Punk Rock? Dead Kennedys, the clash, the exploited, propaghandi, rancid?

    You dont need the entire country or entire Rage listener base to rise up and deny their Middle Class roots. You only need 5 percent of the country, of the audience. 5 percent. Thats all.

    Its naive to say music cant change the world and cant educate people and politicize people to action and cause. Band members we all know and love certainly feel music can change the world and can cause people to become activists, and ask Uncle Bruce, Uncle neil, Tom Morello, Kathleen Hanna, Beastie Boys, etc... if they think music is effective in trying to spread a political message?

    I dont think every rage listener read those books on the liner notes for Evil Empire, but you have to believe some did. I did. And I know I am not alone

    How many people took the time to learn about Leonard Peltier after seeing Freedom on MTV?

    How many people took the time to get involved in freeing Mumia after they included his information in the liner notes to the final record?

    How many people checked out info about Subcomandante Marcos after Zack talked about them?

    How many people read up on Chomsky after they had an interview with him on Battle for Mexico City DVD?

    My guess is millions didnt, but thousands DID!

    edit your post and add uncle dylan. Didn't he write a political song or two?
  • pearljam0000
    pearljam0000 Posts: 450
    Did anyone else catch what Ann Coulter said about what Zack said at Coachella? I saw her on one of the news channels last night, I forget which one maybe CNN. She said that Rage was just some band that broke up 10 years ago and how Zack tried to do other projects which failed miserably. She also kept saying how no one knew who Rage was, that really bothered me. To top it off, she then said How Rage were a bunch of losers and how their fans are a bunch of losers.

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