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  • DriftingByTheStorm
    DriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    reborncareerist wrote:
    He's the calm one of the bunch!
    ;)

    after having been gone a week, and returning,
    i think i've been broken.

    the unchecked aggression will not stand.

    i'll just throw my punches, take my lumps and move on.
    its not even worth it.
    :(
    If I was to smile and I held out my hand
    If I opened it now would you not understand?
  • rebornFixer
    rebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    after having been gone a week, and returning,
    i think i've been broken.

    the unchecked aggression will not stand.

    i'll just throw my punches, take my lumps and move on.
    its not even worth it.
    :(

    Driftin', dude, chill ... Your presence here is appreciated. Probably more than mine, actually. Lately, I so much as fart and someone accuses me of a personal attack.
  • DriftingByTheStorm
    DriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    spyguy wrote:
    :confused: Israel did it?

    just tell me what your old screen name was.
    i just have to know.
    really.
    If I was to smile and I held out my hand
    If I opened it now would you not understand?
  • spyguy
    spyguy Posts: 613
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    just tell me what your old screen name was.
    i just have to know.
    really.

    didnt have one. sorry, I have over 20,000 posts on a different political board. I may be new here, but I'm not new to political message boards.

    there are little brainwashed alex jones drones over there too. sorry if you felt "attacked" by my response to what war actually is.


    how long of a ban does one get for posting a non-work friendly pop-up attached of a dick?
  • Sludge Factory
    Sludge Factory Posts: 976
    reborncareerist wrote:
    Driftin', dude, chill ... Your presence here is appreciated. Probably more than mine, actually. Lately, I so much as fart and someone accuses me of a personal attack.


    I second reborncareerist's sentiments here. Your presence is appreciated.

    Hold on a sec...something smells...REBOOOORN!!! Stop with the personal attacks already. Man, I gotta get some fresh air.
  • Nevermind
    Nevermind Posts: 1,006
    spyguy wrote:
    how long of a ban does one get for posting a non-work friendly pop-up attached of a dick?
    Looks like we have a new snitch.
  • spyguy
    spyguy Posts: 613
    Nevermind wrote:
    Looks like we have a new snitch.

    I havent reported anyone, nor will I. the post is right there for everyone to see.
  • DriftingByTheStorm
    DriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    spyguy wrote:
    sorry if you felt "attacked" by my response to what war actually is.

    i didn't feel attacked.
    i thought it was an idiotic statement.
    its like saying spitting in a guys face isn't starting a fight, because the other guy threw the first punch.

    A blockade is an ACT OF WAR.
    What part of that don't you understand.
    The ONLY thing that prevents it from actually BEING "war" is the RESPONSE or lack there of from the party that the AGRESSION was put upon.

    Have fun with your semantic games,
    and your insults.
    spyguy wrote:
    how long of a ban does one get for posting a non-work friendly pop-up attached of a dick?

    a. its not a dick. its meat. food.
    who knows, i thought you could be hungry.

    b. how long? fuck it depends dude. we are highly subjective over here. how high\tired\sleepy\grumpy is the moderator, how much does he or she like you. how many times have you been an ass. what color is your favorite. WHO KNOWS.
    If I was to smile and I held out my hand
    If I opened it now would you not understand?
  • rebornFixer
    rebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    Sludge Factory wrote:
    I second reborncareerist's sentiments here. Your presence is appreciated.

    Hold on a sec...something smells...REBOOOORN!!! Stop with the personal attacks already. Man, I gotta get some fresh air.

    Sorry. I love curry, what can I say. Good with the bad and all that.
  • spyguy
    spyguy Posts: 613
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    i didn't feel attacked.
    i thought it was an idiotic statement.
    its like saying spitting in a guys face isn't starting a fight, because the other guy threw the first punch.

    A blockade is an ACT OF WAR.
    What part of that don't you understand.
    The ONLY thing that prevents it from actually BEING "war" is the RESPONSE or lack there of from the party that the AGRESSION was put upon.

    Have fun with your semantic games,
    and your insults.

    blah blah blah. spitting in someones face does nothing more then hurt an ego. hit him in the head with a baseball bat. well thats different.

    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    a. its not a dick. its meat. food.
    who knows, i thought you could be hungry.

    b. how long? fuck it depends dude. we are highly subjective over here. how high\tired\sleepy\grumpy is the moderator, how much does he or she like you. how many times have you been an ass. what color is your favorite. WHO KNOWS.

    well enjoy your time off. honestly, it looks like you need it.
  • Sludge Factory
    Sludge Factory Posts: 976
    reborncareerist wrote:
    Sorry. I love curry, what can I say. Good with the bad and all that.

    If you've ever heard the song "The Chastising of Renegade" by Primus I had that voice he uses when saying "Renegaaaade, come here boy" in my head when I was calling you out. Just thought I'd state that to help set the mood for ya.

    I like curry too.
  • DriftingByTheStorm
    DriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    spyguy wrote:
    blah blah blah. spitting in someones face does nothing more then hurt an ego. hit him in the head with a baseball bat. well thats different.


    yea, see WAR has clearly defined rules.
    A naval blockade is an ACT OF WAR.

    You can't fucking weasel your sly ass out of that.

    Perhaps a better analogy would be slapping someone in the face with a glove and saying "i challenege you to a duel" and then trying to file a complaint with the authorities that you were shot.

    You engaged in a activitiy with CLEARLY DEFINED RULES.
    Which were followed.

    Therefore it NECESSARILY FOLLOWS that if a war comes from this ACT OF WAR, that THE UNITED STATES STARTED THE WAR,
    since they would be the party RESPONSIBLE for the ACT OF WAR.

    I don't think you will find too many even of the self professed law scholars on this board disagree with this sentiment.

    :cool:
    If I was to smile and I held out my hand
    If I opened it now would you not understand?
  • Sludge Factory
    Sludge Factory Posts: 976
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    yea, see WAR has clearly defined rules.
    A naval blockade is an ACT OF WAR.

    You can't fucking weasel your sly ass out of that.

    Perhaps a better analogy would be slapping someone in the face with a glove and saying "i challenege you to a duel" and then trying to file a complaint with the authorities that you were shot.

    You engaged in a activitiy with CLEARLY DEFINED RULES.
    Which were followed.

    Therefore it NECESSARILY FOLLOWS that if a war comes from this ACT OF WAR, that THE UNITED STATES STARTED THE WAR,
    since they would be the party RESPONSIBLE for the ACT OF WAR.

    I don't think you will find too many even of the self professed law scholars on this board disagree with this sentiment.

    :cool:

    To help add something more than my other random thoughts to the actual discussion at hand, I have this to say. Laying a seige on another foreign entity is an act of war. A seige is usually done to prevent resources from coming into the country/castle/whatever the fuck you are beseiging, so it is further weakened. A naval blockade is similar to this so I'd have to agree with Drifting.
  • rebornFixer
    rebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    Sludge Factory wrote:
    To help add something more than my other random thoughts to the actual discussion at hand, I have this to say. Laying a seige on another foreign entity is an act of war. A seige is usually done to prevent resources from coming into the country/castle/whatever the fuck you are beseiging, so it is further weakened. A naval blockade is similar to this so I'd have to agree with Drifting.

    What about UN sanctions? Are those an act of war as well?
    Same logic ... Sanctions are intended to prevent resources from coming into a country. Did the UN declare war on Iraq with its sanctions after the 91 war, then? Did it declare war on South Africa with its sanctions during apartheid?
  • LeilaMoonTurtle
    LeilaMoonTurtle Posts: 1,418
    http://www.metimes.com/International/2008/08/11/special_report_kuwait_readying_for_war_in_gulf/7724/
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    The elements they speak to me.

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZL3gQO1WxUk
    so cute they are
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    It seems that Bush and Co will get there hands on Iran after all. They know that they don't have the public support for another war so why not create a situation to antagonize Iran into making the first move.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • DriftingByTheStorm
    DriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    reborncareerist wrote:
    What about UN sanctions? Are those an act of war as well?

    Those are done through an international policy\treaty organization.
    Unlike this naval blockade that is done in SPITE of it.

    I don't agree with sanctions either,
    but they are, by the internationaly agreed law (the UN itself), "legal".

    A naval blockade falls SEVERAL international treatise signed by all nations (well, if you count all the treatise, you get all the nations) ...

    here ... BLOCKADE LAW ...

    its not some shades of grey bullshit.
    Its genuine matter of fact law.

    Naval Blockade = ACT OF WAR.

    Stop playing goddamn semantics, folks.
    If I was to smile and I held out my hand
    If I opened it now would you not understand?
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    bring on the new wars...

    Yess....fucking smoke that shit...

    Oh man....It's all going down nicely...

    delicious.....
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • rebornFixer
    rebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    Those are done through an international policy\treaty organization.
    Unlike this naval blockade that is done in SPITE of it.

    I don't agree with sanctions either,
    but they are, by the internationaly agreed law (the UN itself), "legal".

    A naval blockade falls SEVERAL international treatise signed by all nations (well, if you count all the treatise, you get all the nations) ...

    here ... BLOCKADE LAW ...

    its not some shades of grey bullshit.
    Its genuine matter of fact law.

    Naval Blockade = ACT OF WAR.

    Stop playing goddamn semantics, folks.


    Well, do you guys want to have a fucking discussion or no? I am not into e-cock-stroking, sorry. Blowing off my point as semantics is an odd tactic, since you're whole argument that a blockade is war is based on ... Semantics!
  • bigdvs
    bigdvs Posts: 235
    interesting thread,

    I will take you one more level though, its not that we are going to set the blockade just that we practiced with the french and british navies on how to do it and then sent those ships along to the persian gulf. So now the Iranians are aware of what our plan probably is, and hopefully having the ships to set a blockade will deter them from thinking they need to interfere in Iraq anymore then they all ready do. Plus its expensive to fill those ships up here its much cheaper there (win win).

    So to go along with reborn i guess, its not like spitting in someones face or slapping someone upside the head. Its practicing hitting someone upside the head and then standing close enough to them to actually do it, should the need arise.
    "The really important thing is not to live, but to live well. And to live well meant, along with more enjoyable things in life, to live according to your principles."
    — Socrates

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