*** Massive Naval Blockade Heads For IRAN ***
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progress? don't get carried away.my2hands wrote:nothing wrong with making some personal progress and changing your mind... i noticed you took down your nader sig? didnt you have one? whats going on to change your mind?
its good you can continue to think things through and make your won decisions... it appears you are drifting in the right direction on this one, imo
I just have had serious personal issues get in the way, and now I'm starting to change some of my previous ideals.0 -
continue to excuse all these actions until an actual war happens...reborncareerist wrote:Yes, a navel blockade means total war is imminent...0 -
_outlaw wrote:continue to excuse all these actions until an actual war happens...
Continue to pull the fire alarm, and then if a fire breaks out, you can say that you called it all along.0 -
nice exaggeration.reborncareerist wrote:Continue to pull the fire alarm, and then if a fire breaks out, you can say that you called it all along.
it's more like trying to stop these acts of war against another country for no apparent reason...
on second thought, maybe I could play ignorant and just ignore these things... after all, no proof of nuclear weapons somehow means nuclear weapons... maybe we should have some naval blockades on Israel (who actually has weapons), and any other country who has a peaceful nuclear program... i mean, what's the big deal?0 -
Good lets get to blowing these f'ers up!A pessimist is a man who thinks all women are bad. An optimist is one who hopes they are.0
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_outlaw wrote:nice exaggeration.
it's more like trying to stop these acts of war against another country for no apparent reason...
on second thought, maybe I could play ignorant and just ignore these things... after all, no proof of nuclear weapons somehow means nuclear weapons... maybe we should have some naval blockades on Israel (who actually has weapons), and any other country who has a peaceful nuclear program... i mean, what's the big deal?
Yep.0 -
Flannel Shirt wrote:Why cant we send fleets of doctors, medicine, food, clothing, etc, to these regions instead of huge ships with huge weapons and bad ass looking strangers with intimidating guns.
I think the people would be a bit more accepting of a balding middle aged man with a white coat and stethoscope, and that would give us the foothold in these regions, create partnerships, etc? Shit, these countries would GIVE us their oil.
sure, we do that now, but not on the scale we do miliarty operations. lets try to flip it?
Naive? yup. but worth trying.
All this sounds good to me. One wonders what would happen ...0 -
_outlaw wrote:continue to excuse all these actions until an actual war happens...
i'm really wondering WTF is up with these troop movements and then the Russia\Georgia thing.
I'm actually curious as to if these are just coincidentally timed events ...
or if Russia is some how taking advantage of the US ship movement (and also maybe the Olympics???) to set up a sort of perfect storm.
We could be witnessing the setup for some WWIV type antics.
I would hope that Russia (assuming the timings here are more than coincidental) is simply POSTURING, with no deliberate intention of making a bigger concern out of this.
I'm waiting to see if the next few days\weeks bring any news of the US ship movements to surface on the national consciousness ... and also to see if any buzz erupts about Russia in relationship to Iran -- ie. does Russia (or Russian sources) make statements relating their own conflict to that in Iran, or make any overt threats against the US regarding Iran.
Part of me wonders if this move against Georgia is being used to counterbalance (and sort of twist the hand of the West) with regards to Israel's apparent intentions of starting a conflict with Iran (essentially on behalf of the United States) ...
If an Israeli (or Israeli\American) strike is imminent on Iran (and i believe that it could very well be), it is most certainly probable Russia knows this and she could possibly position herself to lay countervailing pressure against the West.
Its even possible that this was timed this was to PREEMPT and Israeli assault on Iran and essentially make a veiled reminder to TPTB that Russia is ready to show herself on the world stage if any further aggressions are made by the West itself.
Pressing on either the Iranians or the Russians at this point is simply begging them to unite and draw other like blocks of countries in to the fold.
Does no one else share these concerns?
I know i've read a few articles that say as much.
and this is for binfrog, who seems to think i never post sources or information (which is absolute bullshit):
one article
two article
and one to relate Russia to Iran in so much as showing that both are ready to fight back:
Iran warns against 'surprise attack'
So, uh yeah.
some SERIOUS concerns starting to develop for me.
Of course TPTB are probably half ecstatic over the possibilities of manipulation based upon this conflict.If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?0 -
DriftingByTheStorm wrote:i'm really wondering WTF is up with these troop movements and then the Russia\Georgia thing.
I'm actually curious as to if these are just coincidentally timed events ...
or if Russia is some how taking advantage of the US ship movement (and also maybe the Olympics???) to set up a sort of perfect storm.
We could be witnessing the setup for some WWIV type antics.
I would hope that Russia (assuming the timings here are more than coincidental) is simply POSTURING, with no deliberate intention of making a bigger concern out of this.
I'm waiting to see if the next few days\weeks bring any news of the US ship movements to surface on the national consciousness ... and also to see if any buzz erupts about Russia in relationship to Iran -- ie. does Russia (or Russian sources) make statements relating their own conflict to that in Iran, or make any overt threats against the US regarding Iran.
Part of me wonders if this move against Georgia is being used to counterbalance (and sort of twist the hand of the West) with regards to Israel's apparent intentions of starting a conflict with Iran (essentially on behalf of the United States) ...
If an Israeli (or Israeli\American) strike is imminent on Iran (and i believe that it could very well be), it is most certainly probable Russia knows this and she could possibly position herself to lay countervailing pressure against the West.
Its even possible that this was timed this was to PREEMPT and Israeli assault on Iran and essentially make a veiled reminder to TPTB that Russia is ready to show herself on the world stage if any further aggressions are made by the West itself.
Pressing on either the Iranians or the Russians at this point is simply begging them to unite and draw other like blocks of countries in to the fold.
Does no one else share these concerns?
I know i've read a few articles that say as much.
and this is for binfrog, who seems to think i never post sources or information (which is absolute bullshit):
one article
two article
and one to relate Russia to Iran in so much as showing that both are ready to fight back:
Iran warns against 'surprise attack'
So, uh yeah.
some SERIOUS concerns starting to develop for me.
Of course TPTB are probably half ecstatic over the possibilities of manipulation based upon this conflict.
I don't think that these concerns are totally off-the-mark ... I'd be a bit baffled as to why Russia would align itself with Iran, given the latter's Islamic bent. Russia has its own issues with Islamic extremists, and to me, a large secular power aligning itself with a major source of aid to Chechen rebels makes little to no sense to me, unless Russia really is stuck in a prehistoric Cold War mentality, like I suspect they might be. That, or its about oil. What does Russia have to gain by aligning itself against the Western world? Wouldn't there be more payoffs if it did the opposite? I don't know. You post does get a person thinking, though.0 -
Man, cool! This blockade shit is just like at the beginning of Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace!Do you remember Rock & Roll Radio?0
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spyguy wrote:a naval blockade is not war.
well actually, spyguy, under international law it is considered an act of war ... which is just a semantic shade away from war itself.
Back to the topic withreborncareerist wrote:I don't think that these concerns are totally off-the-mark ... I'd be a bit baffled as to why Russia would align itself with Iran, given the latter's Islamic bent. Russia has its own issues with Islamic extremists, and to me, a large secular power aligning itself with a major source of aid to Chechen rebels makes little to no sense to me, unless Russia really is stuck in a prehistoric Cold War mentality, like I suspect they might be. That, or its about oil. What does Russia have to gain by aligning itself against the Western world? Wouldn't there be more payoffs if it did the opposite? I don't know. You post does get a person thinking, though.
Yes. I agree it would make strange bedfellows indeed.
Heres the new rub i just got.
I've been seriously out of the loop for over a week. No cable. no internet. No Alex Jones. No Newspapers. Nothing. Busy moving.
Just talked with a friend who has been keeping up with the guests AJ has on regarding foreign policy and with websites, and he says the way he hears it Georgia (or rather US interests vis a vis Georgia) were unquestionably the aggressor.
Now i haven't yet had time to validate this,
but if that is true, it changes the game around significantly.
What i mean is,
that would dictate that the entire situation is a United States (or globalist) fabrication. That one interest was behind the Russian aggression and the continued aggravation of a middle easter aggression via pressures on Iran.
If that is the case,
then it would mean this is all part of some strange plan to force a war, or a cold war state, or some sort of paranoid media sensation that molds the peoples will for a political purpose.
The possibilities are endless down that road,
and they are all scary.
blech.
this sucks.If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?0 -
DriftingByTheStorm wrote:well actually, spyguy, under international law it is considered an act of war ... which is just a semantic shade away from war itself.
yea yea ok. according to you and alex jones we are officially at war. call me when we have troops on the ground.0 -
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spyguy wrote:this type of shit is allowed here?
no.
not a suprise to you,
seeing as how you are surely back from a ban yourself, eh?
i'm on my way out of this place,
anyhow.If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?0 -
DriftingByTheStorm wrote:no.
not a suprise to you,
seeing as how you are surely back from a ban yourself, eh?
i'm on my way out of this place,
anyhow.
good. you seem a little high strung.0 -
lolspyguy wrote:yea yea ok. according to you and alex jones we are officially at war. call me when we have troops on the ground.
yeah, I'm sure you'll step up once we finally have "troops on the ground." but by then, it'll be "too late" to go "against" the U.S. and we'll have to continue giving money to the defense fund...
cycles just repeat and people don't notice...0 -
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Israel did it? 
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