are you against america

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  • St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,118
    FiveB247x wrote:
    The beliefs, ideas and values this nation was founded upon is what people should cherish. The politicians and officials are merely passing through the government as workers.

    so are we supposed to say nothing and sit idly by while these "workers" fuck up everything that our predecessors have worked/fought/died for to make this country what it was prior to gwb? i say no way. i don't know how the iraqis and afghanis will ever forgive our government.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Cosmo wrote:
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    But, it only extends to the streets where you live, right?
    I mean, those assholes in New Orleans can go fuck themselves, can't they?

    All that Mardi-gras debauchery...it's gods way of punishing them!!

    I bet a lot of people really and truly believe this...how sad is that?

    Why else the zero response? Poor & black I suppose adds to it...sigh...:rolleyes:

    we only do it to ourselves...
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    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • Posts: 5,515
    know1 wrote:
    I'm generally against nationalism, so I guess in a sense I might be against some concept of America.

    But...
    I think the people who whine and complain about America at every turn and paint it and its citizens with broad, stereotypical strokes are a bunch of idiots.

    American idiots?

    hehee

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  • Posts: 384
    so are we supposed to say nothing and sit idly by while these "workers" fuck up everything that our predecessors have worked/fought/died for to make this country what it was prior to gwb? i say no way. i don't know how the iraqis and afghanis will ever forgive our government.

    Even though I'm not from the US, I share this view... I always saw the United States as one of those countries with grandious ideals and totally against opression. It's like watching Ghandi set up a slave camp. Well, not quite but you get my point.
  • Posts: 21,037
    what have the romans really ever done for us???

    They taught your ancestors in the mother country to build roads. And...errm...they taught Scottish men how to wear skirts? :confused:
  • Posts: 19,646
    Byrnzie wrote:
    They taught your ancestors in the mother country to build roads. And...errm...they taught Scottish men how to wear skirts? :confused:

    the romans never conquered Scotland my friend ;) and we had the skirts on before they built that big wall near Carlisle :p
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • Posts: 18,341
    what have the romans really ever done for us???
    A lot... one of the main legacies for the US is the roman model of government (bicameral). The Constitution of the United States organised Congress in the same manner. So..... big impact on the US, no?
    Not to mention roads, numbers, calendar, etc.....
  • Posts: 1,890
    The Romans also passed along Christianity to us.
    All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
    -Enoch Powell
  • Posts: 129
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    Freedom is a state of mind...
  • Posts: 129
    ...If you were living in some other countries you would most likely be imprisoned for speaking against the leaders of your country. So before you go and say we live in this dictatorship that i here you speak of think about it...

    This country was founded on dissent my friend. All of whom dissent against our government do not HATE AMERICA. I love my country, and I would die for it. However, I am not willing to sit back and enjoy my coke while watching American Idol, all the while ignoring the fact that our "democracy" has been hijacked by a group of greedy assholes, less than 1% of whom control our entire media system, and buy our politicians to benefit their agenda only... 99 times out of 100, their agenda is counter active to our well being.

    Yes, I participate in dissent of the United States Goverment. This is because I LOVE THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!

    I could never say enough about this subject... but I will leave you with this:

    George Bush is still making decisions for this country with less than a 30% approval rating... He alone has committed well over 1,000 world crimes... all of which he has gotten away with by abusing the term "executive privilege"...

    It is true that the United States can be defined as a democracy :

    Democracy - government by the people; a form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system.

    It is strange then that the United States can also be defined as the following:

    Oligarchy - a form of government in which all power is vested in a few persons or in a dominant class or clique; government by the few.

    Totalitarian –adj- 1. of or pertaining to a centralized government that does not tolerate parties of differing opinion and that exercises dictatorial control over many aspects of life.
    2. exercising control over the freedom, will, or thought of others; authoritarian; autocratic.

    Imperialist - the policy of extending the rule or authority of an empire or nation over foreign countries, or of acquiring and holding colonies and dependencies.
    Freedom is a state of mind...
  • Posts: 13,202
    The Romans also passed along Christianity to us.
    redrock wrote:
    A lot... one of the main legacies for the US is the roman model of government (bicameral). The Constitution of the United States organised Congress in the same manner. So..... big impact on the US, no?
    Not to mention roads, numbers, calendar, etc.....
    Byrnzie wrote:
    They taught your ancestors in the mother country to build roads. And...errm...they taught Scottish men how to wear skirts?

    no monty python fans in the audience today eh?
  • Posts: 19,646
    no monty python fans in the audience today eh?

    i'm against how americans pronounce PYTHON.. its always bugged me. ;)
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • Posts: 13,202
    dunkman wrote:
    i'm against how americans pronounce PYTHON.. its always bugged me. ;)

    like "pie-thonn"?
  • Posts: 200
    Don't get it....why are so many people proud to have faught in a war?
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  • Posts: 21,037
    no monty python fans in the audience today eh?

    Bigus Dickus. :cool:
  • Posts: 19,646
    like "pie-thonn"?

    yeah... i dont get it :confused:

    also dont get me started on Jaguar... since when did it become Jag-whar?????????

    we invented that animal so we should know how its pronounced :)
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • Posts: 18,341
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Bigus Dickus. :cool:
    Incontinentia Buttocks :D

    Keep it in the family!
  • Posts: 13,202
    dunkman wrote:
    yeah... i dont get it :confused:

    also dont get me started on Jaguar... since when did it become Jag-whar?????????

    we invented that animal so we should know how its pronounced :)

    how is it pronounced then? pith-un?

    i heard oasis sing the car like jag-yoo-are. that right?
  • Posts: 883
    dunkman wrote:
    yeah... i dont get it :confused:

    also dont get me started on Jaguar... since when did it become Jag-whar?????????

    we invented that animal so we should know how its pronounced :)



    lets not get started on how americans pronounce things.....99% of the population thinks we are fighting a war in eye-rack.... the single most important issue in the states today, and we dont even bother to know how to pronounce the name of the country we are killing and dying in. i would bet that 80% of americans could not find iraq on a map.
  • Posts: 3,517
    My question is to all the Americans in this room, (sorry everyone you will see why). How many of you complain about the government about all of their policies, leaders, pretty much dislike the USA?

    What I am trying to get at is that even though you say its so bad here in the US you still have the ability to talk about it. If you were living in some other countries you would most likely be imprissoned for speaking agains t the leaders of your country. So before you go and say we live in this dictatorship that i here you speak of think about it.

    I seem to remeber a time right after September 11, 2001 that we were all united and proud of who we are.

    I served my country and I am damn proud to be an American. So before you go and bash it and compare the US to Nazi Germany think twice please because many men and women gave their life for the freedoms you should hold dear.

    i've had many family members serve in iraq and my youngest son left a few weeks ago. their stories are nothing like i hear from people in this room.
    i'm proud to be an american but we have different levels of americans. each of us living in our own reality. the open range is still as it was in the late 1800's. we use solar power and satellites but our way of life still mirrors the late 1800's. life is different for us and we see things differently. we do things differently. so while some think being american is the same for everyone; the truth is; different areas of the country produce different "types" of americans.

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