i still after all these years fail to see how my freedom is:
1. threatened
2. needs to be defended by invading a country that had nothing to do with 9/11.
nobody has ever been able to explain this to me.
the greatest threat to my freedom and my way of life is the current president and his cronies. and unfortunately, no soldier can defend my freedom from them. attorneys and congressmen can not defend my freedom from them. they are above the law and do as they please. and that to me is dangerous.
cant you see the master plan? "they hate us because of our freedom" so we simply get rid of all that pesky freedom and they wont hate us anymore....
i still after all these years fail to see how my freedom is:
1. threatened
2. needs to be defended by invading a country that had nothing to do with 9/11.
nobody has ever been able to explain this to me.
the greatest threat to my freedom and my way of life is the current president and his cronies. and unfortunately, no soldier can defend my freedom from them. attorneys and congressmen can not defend my freedom from them. they are above the law and do as they please. and that to me is dangerous.
please tell me im not the only one who caught this gem!
tell me, friend, where in the bible or catholic doctrine you hold so dear does it say that americans deserve to be loved more than, say, israelis? or romans? i might be way off, but as i recall, jesus said something about loving EVERYONE.
I see I already made an appearance in this thread somehow ... anyway
I found it!!!
leviticus 19:33
"The stranger who dwells among you shall be to you as one born among you, and you shall love him as yourself; for you were strangers in the land of Egypt."
i actually like America.... its some of the people in it that bother me
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
i actually like America.... its some of the people in it that bother me
Yep, if they weren't over-emotional, loopy bastards with fake, unnaturally white teeth; if they weren't without spelling skills, and were beyond a mental age of about twelve at the highest, they'd be the greatest people on the planet!
My question is to all the Americans in this room, (sorry everyone you will see why). How many of you complain about the government about all of their policies, leaders, pretty much dislike the USA?
What I am trying to get at is that even though you say its so bad here in the US you still have the ability to talk about it. If you were living in some other countries you would most likely be imprissoned for speaking agains t the leaders of your country. So before you go and say we live in this dictatorship that i here you speak of think about it.
I seem to remeber a time right after September 11, 2001 that we were all united and proud of who we are.
I served my country and I am damn proud to be an American. So before you go and bash it and compare the US to Nazi Germany think twice please because many men and women gave their life for the freedoms you should hold dear.
If you don't speak out against what you believe is wrong with your country it can be conceived that you agree.
I can name 10 countries to every 1 country where freedom of speech is condoned. Saying you'll be imprisoned or executed in other countries for speaking your mind against the government is pure propaganda. What countries imprison you for speaking out against the government?
Yep, if they weren't over-emotional, loopy bastards with fake, unnaturally white teeth; if they weren't without spelling skills, and were beyond a mental age of about twelve at the highest, they'd be the greatest people on the planet!
give that man a medal.... and deep fry it first
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
Americans have shared experiences, whether they know one another or not.
We listen to the same music, drive the same cars, speak the same language (hopefully), work in the same towns, read the same newspapers, talk about the same sports teams...etc etc etc
The list goes on and on. When you share these commonalities with other people, it makes them closer to your kin than if you don't.
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But, it only extends to the streets where you live, right?
I mean, those assholes in New Orleans can go fuck themselves, can't they?
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
My question is to all the Americans in this room, (sorry everyone you will see why). How many of you complain about the government about all of their policies, leaders, pretty much dislike the USA?
What I am trying to get at is that even though you say its so bad here in the US you still have the ability to talk about it. If you were living in some other countries you would most likely be imprissoned for speaking agains t the leaders of your country. So before you go and say we live in this dictatorship that i here you speak of think about it.
I seem to remeber a time right after September 11, 2001 that we were all united and proud of who we are.
I served my country and I am damn proud to be an American. So before you go and bash it and compare the US to Nazi Germany think twice please because many men and women gave their life for the freedoms you should hold dear.
that's funny, because -i- seem to remember a time right after 9/11 when the government passed such legislation as the Patriot Act, the National Security Act, and many other laws that quite literally ROBBED US of many of those "freedoms you should hold dear", and for what?--- to fight a war that isn't supposed to be won, in order to usurp the oil and establish military bases in the middle east--- and end that couldn't be reached by any other means...
if you don't see how 9/11 was an INSIDE JOB, and how the terror tactics being employed by our own government via the media is instilling fear in our citizens to the point where we're freely giving up our rights in the name of "homeland security", and how this EXACTLY PARALLELS Hitler and the Gestapo, then i would go back and take a 10th grade history class if i were you...
As a matter of fact, were you even aware that our great president's own grandfather was the head of a company that provided Nazi germany with not only fuel for their jets, but even the very gas used to kill MILLIONS in the gas chambers?... No, you probably weren't aware of that...
Maybe you need to stop blindly consuming what the GOVERNMENT CONTROLLED MEDIA is feeding you everyday, and wake up and see what's really going on..
THOSE WHO FORGET THE PAST ARE CONDEMNED TO REPEAT IT...
i still after all these years fail to see how my freedom is:
1. threatened
2. needs to be defended by invading a country that had nothing to do with 9/11.
nobody has ever been able to explain this to me.
the greatest threat to my freedom and my way of life is the current president and his cronies. and unfortunately, no soldier can defend my freedom from them. attorneys and congressmen can not defend my freedom from them. they are above the law and do as they please. and that to me is dangerous.
Isn't that the truth. Glad to see another with eyes open.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Yep, if they weren't over-emotional, loopy bastards with fake, unnaturally white teeth; if they weren't without spelling skills, and were beyond a mental age of about twelve at the highest, they'd be the greatest people on the planet!
Dunno... I just feel they complain a lot when they have pretty much everything sorted out in their lives. I just say this because I know what it is like to live in a 3rd world country. Different perspective you see... It just sounds like whining to me
Always will love America, my daughter was born here. However, I taught her to never be afraid to question our authoritative figureheads.
I can remember several months after 9/II a woman horned me down because I had another country's flag in my truck. She said, "why do you have "that" flag, where's America's flag?" I calmy turned to her and said, "I like this flag and at this time I have a right to carry "this" flag". She scorned and scuffed off not liking what I said, I gather she wanted a more distasteful reaction.
I was not going to follow the crowd with at the time our perceived Patriotism. For the last 2 years, I now proudly wear in my truck my small stick American Flag as our perceived Patriotism wanes in America today.
Peace
Earle
What you didn't shoot her in the face? Seems unpatriotic to me
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Dunno... I just feel they complain a lot when they have pretty much everything sorted out in their lives. I just say this because I know what it is like to live in a 3rd world country. Different perspective you see... It just sounds like whining to me
What wanting to stop a political power hungry regime that is murdering people in other countries turning them effectively into third world countries?
It's like that huge mentally challenged literary/cartoon character that keep killing bunnies by petting them.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
What wanting to stop a political power hungry regime that is murdering people in other countries turning them effectively into third world countries?
It's like that huge mentally challenged literary/cartoon character that keep killing bunnies by petting them.
As far as I could tell, the complaining in this board is about the government's internal policies, not about their foreign relations and aid to other countries. I respect and admire the fact that many people are against the war in Iraq and all those things that claim innocent lives... What I don't understand is how a lot of Americans feel as if they lived in a shithole when they obviously don't.
Yep, if they weren't over-emotional, loopy bastards with fake, unnaturally white teeth; if they weren't without spelling skills, and were beyond a mental age of about twelve at the highest, they'd be the greatest people on the planet!
I'm generally against nationalism, so I guess in a sense I might be against some concept of America.
But...
I think the people who whine and complain about America at every turn and paint it and its citizens with broad, stereotypical strokes are a bunch of idiots.
The only people we should try to get even with...
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
The beliefs, ideas and values this nation was founded upon is what people should cherish. The politicians and officials are merely passing through the government as workers.
CONservative governMENt
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
The beliefs, ideas and values this nation was founded upon is what people should cherish. The politicians and officials are merely passing through the government as workers.
so are we supposed to say nothing and sit idly by while these "workers" fuck up everything that our predecessors have worked/fought/died for to make this country what it was prior to gwb? i say no way. i don't know how the iraqis and afghanis will ever forgive our government.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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But, it only extends to the streets where you live, right?
I mean, those assholes in New Orleans can go fuck themselves, can't they?
All that Mardi-gras debauchery...it's gods way of punishing them!!
I bet a lot of people really and truly believe this...how sad is that?
Why else the zero response? Poor & black I suppose adds to it...sigh...:rolleyes:
we only do it to ourselves...
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
I'm generally against nationalism, so I guess in a sense I might be against some concept of America.
But...
I think the people who whine and complain about America at every turn and paint it and its citizens with broad, stereotypical strokes are a bunch of idiots.
so are we supposed to say nothing and sit idly by while these "workers" fuck up everything that our predecessors have worked/fought/died for to make this country what it was prior to gwb? i say no way. i don't know how the iraqis and afghanis will ever forgive our government.
Even though I'm not from the US, I share this view... I always saw the United States as one of those countries with grandious ideals and totally against opression. It's like watching Ghandi set up a slave camp. Well, not quite but you get my point.
They taught your ancestors in the mother country to build roads. And...errm...they taught Scottish men how to wear skirts?
the romans never conquered Scotland my friend and we had the skirts on before they built that big wall near Carlisle
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
A lot... one of the main legacies for the US is the roman model of government (bicameral). The Constitution of the United States organised Congress in the same manner. So..... big impact on the US, no?
Not to mention roads, numbers, calendar, etc.....
...If you were living in some other countries you would most likely be imprisoned for speaking against the leaders of your country. So before you go and say we live in this dictatorship that i here you speak of think about it...
This country was founded on dissent my friend. All of whom dissent against our government do not HATE AMERICA. I love my country, and I would die for it. However, I am not willing to sit back and enjoy my coke while watching American Idol, all the while ignoring the fact that our "democracy" has been hijacked by a group of greedy assholes, less than 1% of whom control our entire media system, and buy our politicians to benefit their agenda only... 99 times out of 100, their agenda is counter active to our well being.
Yes, I participate in dissent of the United States Goverment. This is because I LOVE THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!
I could never say enough about this subject... but I will leave you with this:
George Bush is still making decisions for this country with less than a 30% approval rating... He alone has committed well over 1,000 world crimes... all of which he has gotten away with by abusing the term "executive privilege"...
It is true that the United States can be defined as a democracy :
Democracy - government by the people; a form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system.
It is strange then that the United States can also be defined as the following:
Oligarchy - a form of government in which all power is vested in a few persons or in a dominant class or clique; government by the few.
Totalitarian –adj- 1. of or pertaining to a centralized government that does not tolerate parties of differing opinion and that exercises dictatorial control over many aspects of life.
2. exercising control over the freedom, will, or thought of others; authoritarian; autocratic.
Imperialist - the policy of extending the rule or authority of an empire or nation over foreign countries, or of acquiring and holding colonies and dependencies.
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cant you see the master plan? "they hate us because of our freedom" so we simply get rid of all that pesky freedom and they wont hate us anymore....
Well said.
I see I already made an appearance in this thread somehow
I found it!!!
leviticus 19:33
"The stranger who dwells among you shall be to you as one born among you, and you shall love him as yourself; for you were strangers in the land of Egypt."
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i actually like America.... its some of the people in it that bother me
Yep, if they weren't over-emotional, loopy bastards with fake, unnaturally white teeth; if they weren't without spelling skills, and were beyond a mental age of about twelve at the highest, they'd be the greatest people on the planet!
Make your life a mission - not an intermission. - Arnold Gasglow
If you don't speak out against what you believe is wrong with your country it can be conceived that you agree.
I can name 10 countries to every 1 country where freedom of speech is condoned. Saying you'll be imprisoned or executed in other countries for speaking your mind against the government is pure propaganda. What countries imprison you for speaking out against the government?
give that man a medal.... and deep fry it first
But, it only extends to the streets where you live, right?
I mean, those assholes in New Orleans can go fuck themselves, can't they?
Hail, Hail!!!
that's funny, because -i- seem to remember a time right after 9/11 when the government passed such legislation as the Patriot Act, the National Security Act, and many other laws that quite literally ROBBED US of many of those "freedoms you should hold dear", and for what?--- to fight a war that isn't supposed to be won, in order to usurp the oil and establish military bases in the middle east--- and end that couldn't be reached by any other means...
if you don't see how 9/11 was an INSIDE JOB, and how the terror tactics being employed by our own government via the media is instilling fear in our citizens to the point where we're freely giving up our rights in the name of "homeland security", and how this EXACTLY PARALLELS Hitler and the Gestapo, then i would go back and take a 10th grade history class if i were you...
As a matter of fact, were you even aware that our great president's own grandfather was the head of a company that provided Nazi germany with not only fuel for their jets, but even the very gas used to kill MILLIONS in the gas chambers?... No, you probably weren't aware of that...
Maybe you need to stop blindly consuming what the GOVERNMENT CONTROLLED MEDIA is feeding you everyday, and wake up and see what's really going on..
THOSE WHO FORGET THE PAST ARE CONDEMNED TO REPEAT IT...
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SiGN THiS PETiTiON TO STOP THE REAL ID ACT!...
http://www.petitiononline.com/antiID/petition.html
Isn't that the truth. Glad to see another with eyes open.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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Dunno... I just feel they complain a lot when they have pretty much everything sorted out in their lives. I just say this because I know what it is like to live in a 3rd world country. Different perspective you see... It just sounds like whining to me
What you didn't shoot her in the face? Seems unpatriotic to me
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
What wanting to stop a political power hungry regime that is murdering people in other countries turning them effectively into third world countries?
It's like that huge mentally challenged literary/cartoon character that keep killing bunnies by petting them.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
As far as I could tell, the complaining in this board is about the government's internal policies, not about their foreign relations and aid to other countries. I respect and admire the fact that many people are against the war in Iraq and all those things that claim innocent lives... What I don't understand is how a lot of Americans feel as if they lived in a shithole when they obviously don't.
yea, no worries...we love ye drunken irish too!
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
But...
I think the people who whine and complain about America at every turn and paint it and its citizens with broad, stereotypical strokes are a bunch of idiots.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
what have the romans really ever done for us???
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
so are we supposed to say nothing and sit idly by while these "workers" fuck up everything that our predecessors have worked/fought/died for to make this country what it was prior to gwb? i say no way. i don't know how the iraqis and afghanis will ever forgive our government.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
All that Mardi-gras debauchery...it's gods way of punishing them!!
I bet a lot of people really and truly believe this...how sad is that?
Why else the zero response? Poor & black I suppose adds to it...sigh...:rolleyes:
we only do it to ourselves...
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
American idiots?
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Even though I'm not from the US, I share this view... I always saw the United States as one of those countries with grandious ideals and totally against opression. It's like watching Ghandi set up a slave camp. Well, not quite but you get my point.
They taught your ancestors in the mother country to build roads. And...errm...they taught Scottish men how to wear skirts?
the romans never conquered Scotland my friend
Not to mention roads, numbers, calendar, etc.....
-Enoch Powell
This country was founded on dissent my friend. All of whom dissent against our government do not HATE AMERICA. I love my country, and I would die for it. However, I am not willing to sit back and enjoy my coke while watching American Idol, all the while ignoring the fact that our "democracy" has been hijacked by a group of greedy assholes, less than 1% of whom control our entire media system, and buy our politicians to benefit their agenda only... 99 times out of 100, their agenda is counter active to our well being.
Yes, I participate in dissent of the United States Goverment. This is because I LOVE THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!
I could never say enough about this subject... but I will leave you with this:
George Bush is still making decisions for this country with less than a 30% approval rating... He alone has committed well over 1,000 world crimes... all of which he has gotten away with by abusing the term "executive privilege"...
It is true that the United States can be defined as a democracy :
Democracy - government by the people; a form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system.
It is strange then that the United States can also be defined as the following:
Oligarchy - a form of government in which all power is vested in a few persons or in a dominant class or clique; government by the few.
Totalitarian –adj- 1. of or pertaining to a centralized government that does not tolerate parties of differing opinion and that exercises dictatorial control over many aspects of life.
2. exercising control over the freedom, will, or thought of others; authoritarian; autocratic.
Imperialist - the policy of extending the rule or authority of an empire or nation over foreign countries, or of acquiring and holding colonies and dependencies.