Gay sex is hazardous to your health
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Jeanie wrote:Yeah, this could go on for hours, and we still wouldn't agree dunky. But that's cool. You've got your views and I've got mine.

I'm really sorry about your baby girl. Hope she's not suffering too much.
well i've been told by a medical surgeon who only deals with that area of the body that the muscles around the anus are only designed to push things out... i also know that medically the anus is not self-lubricating... and even a pandas muff is self-lubricating and they only shag once over millenia...
basically, i dont care if people have anal sex... i may even partake in it once in a while... but its only for pleasure... it was not designed to go in there... thats fact and any medical specialist will tell you thatoh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.0 -
Kann wrote:Well, it's up for interpretation, but it's possible to argue that if sex wasn't pleasurable then not as many people would bother to have sex in the first place (it can be tiring, akward, boring, lame etc.) and lead to the extinction of the species. So having pleasurable sex may very well be what saved us from extinction.
On other side not all prostates, when touched, give pleasure.
Maybe we think that what is natural and proper is an act that has biological consequences : i.e. vaginal sex ensures the survival of the species. That would mean oral sex is unnatural and not proper either.
Exactly Kann, it is all up to interpretation!
But if sex was purely designed for procreation purposes then each and every time we did it the result would be procreation, imo.
As far as I'm concerned what goes on between consenting adults is their business and who am I to dictate what others do in their private lives?
Whatever floats your boat as they say.
Life affords us few true pleasures so I say make love not war and do it often!
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dunkman wrote:well i've been told by a medical surgeon who only deals with that area of the body that the muscles around the anus are only designed to push things out... i also know that medically the anus is not self-lubricating... and even a pandas muff is self-lubricating and they only shag once over millenia...
basically, i dont care if people have anal sex... i may even partake in it once in a while... but its only for pleasure... it was not designed to go in there... thats fact and any medical specialist will tell you that
No dunky, a medical specialist told you that. One. And others may support his views.
I'm quite sure they don't all agree! They don't on anything else so why should this be any different?
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cornnifer wrote:i won't say that its "wrong" or not "proper" for those that get their kicks that way. You can stick whatever you want in your ass. i don't care. It isn't my business. Good luck with that.
But in absolutely no way will i agree that our bodies were designed/evolved for that. No way. Regardless of what perspective you look at it from. It isn't a religious/spiritual issue. Whether you look at it naturalistically or theistically, anal sex is simply not what God/nature intended. Its elementary school biology for Pete's sake.
Well I never said that I practiced anal sex cornifer. So good luck with those assumptions.
And you can interpret God/Nature or elementary school biology anyway you like. Fact remains that humans have discovered anal sex and some do participate in it. So clearly if it is happening then the body is designed for it. Maybe not every body, but If the body wasn't designed for it, then it couldn't happen. Anyway, you're right it's no one's business but their own.NOPE!!!
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Jeanie wrote:Well I never said that I practiced anal sex cornifer. So good luck with those assumptions.

And you can interpret God/Nature or elementary school biology anyway you like. Fact remains that humans have discovered anal sex and some do participate in it. So clearly if it is happening then the body is designed for it. Maybe not every body, but If the body wasn't designed for it, then it couldn't happen. Anyway, you're right it's no one's business but their own.
i was making a point, not assumptions
Furthermore, i can stick my twanger in a warm apple pie like that goofy kid in the movie, wiggle it around a little bit, and it might not feel half bad, but there is no way i can argue that apple pie was designed for that
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dunkman wrote:you are wrong regarding the clitoris penis thing.. (just as i was) we are sorta non-sexual until the 4th week of our embryonic state.. our penis or clitoris is a tubercle until its decided what sex we are to be
You are wrong. It is decided what sex we will be at conception. It's either XX or XY. It is the flood of hormones that decides if a penis will develop, and that happens in the 9th week.
A genital tubercle is a body of tissue which forms in the ventral, caudal region of mammalian embryos of both sexes, and eventually develops into a phallus. In the human fetus the genital tubercle develops around week 4 of gestation, and by week 9 becomes recognizably either a clitoris or penis.
The genital tubercle is sensitive to dihydrotestosterone and rich in 5-alpha-reductase, so that the amount of fetal testosterone present after the second month is a major determinant of phallus size at birth
This is correct, but if little boys do not get that flood of testosterone then the fetus (even if it is XY) will develop as a female with a clitoris because that is what the gland (not the tubercle, but the actual sex GLAND) starts out being. This is called Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome. These kids are XY and because they didn't get the right hormones at the right time they are female with a clitoris and a vagina and everything. Of course their ovaries are what they call "testicular in nature" and they are genetically male (the afore mentioned XY), but they are often very beautiful, curvy, have exceptionally shiny hair and big eyes, they are tall, and have big boobs too. Every XY baby would be FEMALE without the flood of testosterone because we ALL start out physically female in the womb. Without that testosterone we would just continue on the developmental path of becoming female. We are not sexless in the womb for 9 weeks."Ideas are bulletproof." --V
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redrock wrote:Actually it's not a necessity for the woman to orgasm at all to conceive.... one of those myths again....
Not too much.. you'll go blind.
It is not a necessity to conceive, and I never said it was. I said it HELPED in conception!
I've seen it. I've seen a medical film of a womans cervix dipping down into seminal fluid during orgasm, and that same seminal fluid being literally sucked up into the uterus. You ask any fertility specialist out there if female orgasm doesn't HELP a woman get pregnant and I guarantee you he will tell you it does HELP! Unless he's some nutjob who thinks that the female orgasm is evil or something."Ideas are bulletproof." --V
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Jeanie wrote:No dunky, a medical specialist told you that. One. And others may support his views.
I'm quite sure they don't all agree! They don't on anything else so why should this be any different?
no trust me.. he was a medical surgeon
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dunkman wrote:no trust me.. he was a medical surgeon

and i put his one view against your 0 specialists views.
Yep! Which is why it's pointless for us to keep arguing back and forth about it.
We don't agree on this issue. It's no big deal.
You can bring supporting evidence from a medical surgeon, probably several, maybe even many. And I could, if I could be bothered, probably find supporting evidence from other specialists. If the "experts" can't agree then how on earth will we? And even supposing the experts did agree, and I doubt very much that they all do, that may not necessarily change my mind.
And probably won't change yours.
Talk about an exercise in futility!!
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Jeanie wrote:Yep! Which is why it's pointless for us to keep arguing back and forth about it.
We don't agree on this issue. It's no big deal.
You can bring supporting evidence from a medical surgeon, probably several, maybe even many. And I could, if I could be bothered, probably find supporting evidence from other specialists. If the "experts" can't agree then how on earth will we? And even supposing the experts did agree, and I doubt very much that they all do, that may not necessarily change my mind.
And probably won't change yours.
Talk about an exercise in futility!!
why dont we settle this with a wee bit of bumlove

get lubing
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cornnifer wrote:i was making a point, not assumptions

Furthermore, i can stick my twanger in a warm apple pie like that goofy kid in the movie, wiggle it around a little bit, and it might not feel half bad, but there is no way i can argue that apple pie was designed for that
This is starting to sound like "soggy biscuit" again! :eek:
The apple pie isn't a being. I'm quite sure there's plenty of fellas out there that have intimate relationships with their vacuum cleaner and a plethora of other holes. Hell they can even buy themselves little rubber ones, with bodies attached and all!!!
But if the human anus couldn't take a penis in it, it wouldn't. And for some people it doesn't. We didn't come with a handbook. We can only try and see what does work. And seeing as how so many people are sticking their penis into anuses and they are actually getting the damn things in, then I'd say that clearly it was designed for that.NOPE!!!
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Well, I have to say that I agree with Dunkman in everything but the whole "clitoris is a tiny penis" thing.
Biologically speaking, and without any moral interjection as to the rightness or wrongness of anal sex among homosexual men, the anus is not supposed to have anything go up it. I thought we all learned that during the height of the AIDS epidemic. The lining of the anal wall is very fragile. It tears easily. Not only can fesses cause infection, but other sexually transmitted diseases have a straight shot right to the bloodstream.
Some older homosexual men have anal problems. This is true as well, but the vast majority of young homosexual men have learned from the elders mistakes and anal sex is not even that common among them. At least that's what I hear from my gay friends, and I have a fair few. Also, from what I've read, these days anal sex is practiced rarely and is much less common then oral sex and mutual masturbation. It's not gone completely, but most younger homosexual men are aware of the risks and take precautions to protect themselves."Ideas are bulletproof." --V
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Jeanie wrote:But if the human anus couldn't take a penis in it, it wouldn't. And for some people it doesn't. We didn't come with a handbook. We can only try and see what does work. And seeing as how so many people are sticking their penis into anuses and they are actually getting the damn things in, then I'd say that clearly it was designed for that.
i could shove a toe into an earhole... or i could shove a fingernail down my jap's eye... just cos it goes in doesnt meant its meant to be there...
and they are only getting peni (i dont know if thats a word but i like it) into ani (same again) using a lubricant... you cant just ram it up thereoh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.0 -
Not sure if it's been mentioned yet but the intestines produce bacteria to help break down food stuffs and retain water/nutrients. This bacteria is not something you want to share around nor have anyone ingest in any way. People who are going to play that way had best wash/clean appropriately, or they will be susceptible to additional health concerns.0
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Jeanie wrote:Last bloke that tried was introduced to a steak knife.

so you got him to shove a steak knife up ... mmmm kinkyBesides, I'm a one man kinda girl!
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