Tim Hardaway on Gays

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  • Drew263
    Drew263 Birmingham, AL Posts: 602
    what if i'm gay and call him a n***er?

    hang on...I disagree with what TH said..but are you really comparing the struggle of African Americans in this country to gays?
  • Drew263 wrote:
    hang on...I disagree with what TH said..but are you really comparing the struggle of African Americans in this country to gays?

    No, he was being facetious.
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  • Drew263
    Drew263 Birmingham, AL Posts: 602
    No, he was being facetious.

    In that case, my bad. I have read that comparison multiple times this morning and I find it absurd.
  • PJPOWER
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    Tim Hardaway, Mike Tyson, OJ Simpson................three of the most inspiring black athletes this world has seen............................If only they could be a little more like Mike :)
  • carolinabeerguy
    carolinabeerguy Kernersville, NC Posts: 2,517
    I don't agree with his stance but can, in a way, understand a bit of the locker room situation. I don't know what the difference would be between having a gay male in the men's locker room vs. having a straight male in the cheerleader's locker room. Any thoughts?
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  • BubbaBirch
    BubbaBirch Posts: 1,977
    What an ignorant stupid comment. I was listening to ESPN radio this morning about this. Its one thing to come out and say you hate gay people, but then to follow it up by saying "They dont belong in the United States."....WTF is that?? So I guess if someone came up to Hardaway and said "Hey, I hate black people, they dont belong in the US" and then they apologized, that supposedly makes everything ok?!?

    Yes he has a right to his opinion...but the part that took me over the edge was the whole "they dont belong in the US" part of it...I mean, c'mon.

    LOL.....I had to laugh everytime they replayed his comments because how can someone be so ignorant!?!?

    And as far as having a gay person in the locker room, yeah Im guessing it would be a little uncomfortable, but heck, its not like they are convicted sexual predators or something like that that they are going to gang rape ya in the shower!! LOL
  • Collin
    Collin Posts: 4,931
    Bubba wrote:
    And as far as having a gay person in the locker room, yeah Im guessing it would be a little uncomfortable, but heck, its not like they are convicted sexual predators or something like that that they are going to gang rape ya in the shower!! LOL

    I think a lot of cheerleaders wouldn't like a straight guy with them in the showers either, even though they're not sexual predators.
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  • BubbaBirch
    BubbaBirch Posts: 1,977
    Collin wrote:
    I think a lot of cheerleaders wouldn't like a straight guy with them in the showers either, even though they're not sexual predators.

    True......funny, you never hear about any of these issues in the WNBA where you know a good portion of the ladies are probably lesbians but no one ever complains about them showering together...LOL

    I mean, John Amechi was in the NBA for how many years, 5 and no one had a problem with him being in the locker room or showers becuase they didnt know anything different. He didnt intentionally throw other guys soap on the floor and jump them from behind or anything like that, but now that he came out, he'd never be able to play in the league again because of this.
  • African Americans have no control over their skin color (Mike Jackson = exception)

    Homosexual men have no control over thier being gay. (I am a straight man and I cannot remember looking at men and women during my early teenage years or whenever and saying to myself, "I think I'll pick women". It's just the way my brain was wired. I imagine its the same for a gay man/woman?)

    So yes, here is definately similiarity with the human rights struggles of African Americans and Homosexuals. They are being discriminated against because of something they have absolutely no control over.

    If it were not for the civil rights movement and the struggles of the African American and Women, I would not be suprised if this country discriminated against gays and prvented them from voting, owning land, using the same bathrooms as "straights" etc.

    Tim Hardaway...just another asshole showing how much of an asshole he is to a lot more people than the usual asshole.
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  • even flow?
    even flow? Posts: 8,066
    Bubba wrote:
    And as far as having a gay person in the locker room, yeah Im guessing it would be a little uncomfortable, but heck, its not like they are convicted sexual predators or something like that that they are going to gang rape ya in the shower!! LOL

    I played hockey with a guy for a good 10 to 12 years and not once did he talk about women, bring a woman to any game, or even cut too many comments on the cute waitresses at the bars we would go to after the game. But the guy could sure play hockey. We just accepted that if he was gay, it wasn't our business to worry about it at all. Not one of us ever felt so uncomfortable to not shower when the guy was in the stalls. We were all good friends and still are to this day.

    Heaven forbid a good player on a team sport being gay and ruining the whole gay thing of male bonding. :)
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  • surferdude
    surferdude Posts: 2,057
    even flow? wrote:
    I played hockey with a guy for a good 10 to 12 years and not once did he talk about women, bring a woman to any game, or even cut too many comments on the cute waitresses at the bars we would go to after the game. But the guy could sure play hockey. We just accepted that if he was gay, it wasn't our business to worry about it at all. Not one of us ever felt so uncomfortable to not shower when the guy was in the stalls. We were all good friends and still are to this day.

    Heaven forbid a good player on a team sport being gay and ruining the whole gay thing of male bonding. :)
    I've roomed with a gay guy while on business trips. I always thought it was an odd thing for the company to do. But wasn't phased by it. I did ask the HR dept rather jokingly if I could room with a lesbian the next trip so I could be the one enjoying th view.
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  • soulsinging
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    even flow? wrote:
    I played hockey with a guy for a good 10 to 12 years and not once did he talk about women, bring a woman to any game, or even cut too many comments on the cute waitresses at the bars we would go to after the game. But the guy could sure play hockey. We just accepted that if he was gay, it wasn't our business to worry about it at all. Not one of us ever felt so uncomfortable to not shower when the guy was in the stalls. We were all good friends and still are to this day.

    Heaven forbid a good player on a team sport being gay and ruining the whole gay thing of male bonding. :)

    but do you know he was gay? the fact that he didnt talk about that stuff could just mean he's very religious. that's called gender sterotyping... even if he wasnt gay he could sue you for harassment under title ix for it ;)
  • even flow?
    even flow? Posts: 8,066
    but do you know he was gay? the fact that he didnt talk about that stuff could just mean he's very religious. that's called gender sterotyping... even if he wasnt gay he could sue you for harassment under title ix for it ;)


    That is the thing Mr. singing. We didn't know and we didn't care. If he was or wasn't didn't hinder the rest of the team, slapping him on his ass or hugging him when he scored a goal. Or being hugged or slapped on the ass when somebody else scored. Hell we even shared water bottles with the guy. ;) Oh how paranoid and stupid some people can be about the whole sexual preference thing.

    I am sure it wasn't a religious thing.
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    I cant believe how much media coverage this is getting. who gives a fuck. he's just one asshole with an opinion.
  • cornnifer
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    PJPOWER wrote:
    Tim Hardaway, Mike Tyson, OJ Simpson................three of the most inspiring black athletes this world has seen............................If only they could be a little more like Mike :)

    How did you come up with this? Three of the most inspiring? Out of all the black athletes the world has known you come up with these three? To make what point? All you've done is choose three alleged fuck-ups and hold them up as an example of the typical Black athlete.
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  • jlew24asu wrote:
    I cant believe how much media coverage this is getting. who gives a fuck. he's just one asshole with an opinion.

    agree.

    If you look at the major stories on CNN lately (from the USA, we only have CNN news channel here), the most important stuffs that happened during last months were:

    A horse die
    A celeb die
    A celeb say he hates gay.

    Who really gives a fuck? N.Korea agreement, Palestine agreement, Darfur violence increase, Habs losing streak ;), i mean much more important stuffs is going on right now... I think i might call my cable company to get Fox News here... or maybe not.
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  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    adam42381 wrote:
    I don't agree with his stance but can, in a way, understand a bit of the locker room situation. I don't know what the difference would be between having a gay male in the men's locker room vs. having a straight male in the cheerleader's locker room. Any thoughts?

    It's not the same thing. There's more chance of mutual attraction.
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  • NCBRI
    NCBRI Posts: 1,902
    agree.

    If you look at the major stories on CNN lately (from the USA, we only have CNN news channel here), the most important stuffs that happened during last months were:

    A horse die
    A celeb die
    A celeb say he hates gay.

    Who really gives a fuck? N.Korea agreement, Palestine agreement, Darfur violence increase, Habs losing streak ;), i mean much more important stuffs is going on right now... I think i might call my cable company to get Fox News here... or maybe not.


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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    agree.

    If you look at the major stories on CNN lately (from the USA, we only have CNN news channel here), the most important stuffs that happened during last months were:

    A horse die
    A celeb die
    A celeb say he hates gay.

    Who really gives a fuck? N.Korea agreement, Palestine agreement, Darfur violence increase, Habs losing streak ;), i mean much more important stuffs is going on right now... I think i might call my cable company to get Fox News here... or maybe not.

    all about the dollars...ratings....newsworthyness depends on the viewers the news attracts..very simple. All just business.

    The horse and celeb...yea...pretty much a big waste...now mr hardiway....its just good he spoke up for all the homophobes in America...just goes to show..there are some reeaaaallly ignorant humans living in our country...and as mentioned before...the more they scream...the more they're suppressing they're needs/emotions.
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  • More power to you Tim Hardaway. I think that's funny as hell.

    On a different note:

    Why do gay guys get to live in the same campus residence halls at my college as straight guys? Isn't that like letting girls live on the same halls as guys?

    Isn't the whole point of separating the sexes to minimize sexual interaction? What if some gay dude comes onto you?

    That's the only point I really identify with that Hardaway said: gays should not be undressing and hanging around straight guys for the same reason that women should not be undressing and hanging around straight guys.
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