Anti-PC Thread

Heineken Helen wrote:

what the fuck is festivus? :eek:

And no, as nicely as I can possibly put it, I really cannot see the PC side of this at all... trust me I HAVE tried to see where you're coming from... but it all comes down to 'bullshit' at the end every time for me.

If you learned to laugh at it and not take it so personally, it really is quite funny.
So I am, what did that person call me, oh yes, a douche. lol I am not out to offend people or get pissed off about something as insignificant as giving someone a present. I don't serve bacon, egg and cheese sandwiches to my Kosher friends and I don't send them a card with a decorated tree on it.
I don't take my kid trick or treating to my mother in laws and I don't partake in stereotypes.
I have more important things to get pissed off about.

TrixieCat wrote:

If you learned to laugh at it and not take it so personally, it really is quite funny.
So I am, what did that person call me, oh yes, a douche. lol I am not out to offend people or get pissed off about something as insignificant as giving someone a present. I don't serve bacon, egg and cheese sandwiches to my Kosher friends and I don't send them a card with a decorated tree on it.
I don't take my kid trick or treating to my mother in laws and I don't partake in stereotypes.
I have more important things to get pissed off about.

another question... if you DID send your kosher friends a card with a decorated tree on it... how EXACTLY would they be offended by it? How could they? If I had Jewish friends and they gave me whatever it is they give eachother or whatever, I'd be well pleased . I like joining in in this stuff. Jaysus, any excuse for some kinda celebration. Can you imagine me telling the muslim I work with who takes his breaks for his prayers that it offends me? No I wouldn't cos whatever anyone else does doesn't come close to offending me. I recognise that we're all different and all have different beliefs and customs... but all these beliefs and customs CAN co-exist. There is NO way in hell that I would tell anyone to abandon some kinda tradition cos I don't celebrate it... how feckin arrogant would that be?


And how is it funny?

Heineken Helen wrote:

another question... if you DID send your kosher friends a card with a decorated tree on it... how EXACTLY would they be offended by it? How could they? If I had Jewish friends and they gave me whatever it is they give eachother or whatever, I'd be well pleased . I like joining in in this stuff. Jaysus, any excuse for some kinda celebration. Can you imagine me telling the muslim I work with who takes his breaks for his prayers that it offends me? No I wouldn't cos whatever anyone else does doesn't come close to offending me. I recognise that we're all different and all have different beliefs and customs... but all these beliefs and customs CAN co-exist. There is NO way in hell that I would tell anyone to abandon some kinda tradition cos I don't celebrate it... how feckin arrogant would that be?


And how is it funny?

Again, and for the last time...who is asking people to abandon their beliefs?

TrixieCat wrote:

Again, and for the last time...who is asking people to abandon their beliefs?

Oh dear, I feel like I'm running around in circles here... that's what a LOT of what is called POLITICAL CORRECTNESS is these days. Back to the points I made in the beginning which I assumed you're defending... about why some towns can't put up a christmas tree... why I must say happy holidays rather than happy christmas... why I should feel bad for sending somebody a christmas card when they're not christian... the kid who can't wear a halloween costume to school... sooooooooooo much of that going on.

Actually I don't think people are asking us to give up our beliefs... but just not celebrate them in public even though most celebrations are more tradition than religion.

Again, how and why would your friend be offended by you sending a Christmas card? That's all I want to know.

Like I said I would join in ANY festivity and anyone's more than welcome to join in mine if they feel bad for not being involved.

Heineken Helen wrote:

Oh dear, I feel like I'm running around in circles here... that's what a LOT of what is called POLITICAL CORRECTNESS is these days. Back to the points I made in the beginning which I assumed you're defending... about why some towns can't put up a christmas tree... why I must say happy holidays rather than happy christmas... why I should feel bad for sending somebody a christmas card when they're not christian... the kid who can't wear a halloween costume to school... sooooooooooo much of that going on.

Actually I don't think people are asking us to give up our beliefs... but just not celebrate them in public even though most celebrations are more tradition than religion.

Again, how and why would your friend be offended by you sending a Christmas card? That's all I want to know.

Like I said I would join in ANY festivity and anyone's more than welcome to join in mine if they feel bad for not being involved.

If they can't take a Christmas tree in public, then a turban, beenie and whatever religious piece of clothing stating a religion should be shunned upon too. You know to keep things even and make people equal.

FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:

The puritans in America never liked Christmas. They passed an anti-Christmas law in 1659, in New England. (Thankfully, it was repealed in 1681.) It was the Irish, who love a good piss-up and a singsong, who really brought Christmas to America in a big way, from the famine era (c.1848-50) onwards. There's loads of evidence to back this up. Get diggin'.



So, the next time anyone says, let's be po-faced and celebrate Thanksgiving seriously and forget about Christmas, say, fakkoff, you puritanical kyaaaants, we're here to party!

these people just need to sit down and be forced watch it's a wonderful life over and over again until they agree that christmas is just brilliant

fuckers!

TrixieCat wrote:

Where did I say I was offending her by sending her a card with a tree on it?
I said I WOULDN"T. Why the fuck would I? She sends me a Christmas card and I send her a Hanukkah card. We don't celebrate the same holidays. What is so difficult to understand about that?
She came to my wedding out in the field with a JP and I went to her Jewish ceremony. Partaking in each other's customs and beliefs is PC Helen. I don't send her a card with a tree because I don't want to. I don't send ANYONE a card with a tree. I have always sent some peace card. And I say happy holidays because it is the season of holidays.

that's fine... that's all I wanted to know... it's just this argument comes up every year and there are always a couple of arseholes who think that me walking around saying happy christmas to everyone regardless of their beliefs is HUGELY insulting... while realistically I'm just being inclusive and friendly . You just seemed to be making some kinda point by saying you wouldn't send her a card with a tree... I got the impression you meant it was because it would be offensive to her... but cool that you send eachother the different celebration cards.

Christmas is NOT a season WINTER is! Do you say happy winter to people? Christmas is christmas and that's that. And it just sounds so much nicer and cuter happy Christmas

happy holidays just sounds fake like 'ehhh... well happy whatever the fuck you are'

even flow? wrote:

If they can't take a Christmas tree in public, then a turban, beenie and whatever religious piece of clothing stating a religion should be shunned upon too. You know to keep things even and make people equal.

Nope because it shouldn't come to that... anyone who can't deal with me putting a christmas tree up... will find themselves having to deal with me putting the christmas tree up... elsewhere :cool:

TrixieCat wrote:

Are you really just reading what you want to read? Maybe over there all you celebrate is Christmas during the winter season. Over here people celebrate Christmas, Hanukkah, New Year's and Kwanza. Those are holidays.
Happy Holidays.
Oh, and Festivus.

well, whatever you celebrate, how anyone could get offended by me wishing them happiness WHATEVER time of the year is beyond me

I've known plenty of muslims and have been a mosque several times with a muslim friend... I've wished them a happy christmas and they didn't get offended . If they were to reply with happy whatever I'd say thanks. I really really really cannot see what the big deal is.

boxwine_in_hell wrote:

lol....and prop their eyelids open like in "A Clockwork Orange."

Hahahaha I almost put that in that post