Anti-PC Thread

FinsburyParkCarrots · October 2007

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPcDREaxsu8

Better get rid of the second link, haha. It's too filthy.

Peter Cook. My favourite comedian.

Heineken Helen · October 2007

TrixieCat wrote:

Looks good on paper. Hell, even potato agrees with you.
I didn't say anything about respecting a person, Helen. I said respecting feelings of others. Who gives a shit if you "intended" it to be a joke. Oftentimes this will come after an assinine remark is made. Oh, sooorrrry...I was joking. Can't you take a joke?
It has always been quite fashionable to be anti-pc. I am not fashionable.
I walk this planet in a kind, friendly, intelligent fashion. Not to rile people up with antiquated stereotpes.

honestly, I say this time and time again but I'm starting to think it may be an Irish thing... over here if you say something with a hint of sarcasm and a glint in your eye, if someone takes it personally well they're just fucking nuts. It really is THAT simple. Yet the anti-pc brigade have turned up here too and that's really not gonna go down well here. It's one thing we've always had, the ability to make fun of ourselves... once we lose that, if the economy goes downhill again we're fucked. it's nothing to do with fashionable or not... it's just the way it IS. And there's very few people in real life who I manage to rile so if you think from this that I walk around calling people names all the time, you're wrong. i think you're just not seeing the difference that I referred to in my last post. Do YOU stop celebrating Christmas for fear of offending your Jewish neighbours?

Would YOU be offended if someone commented on your new haircut?

evenkat · October 2007

sweetpotato wrote:

I don't know about the rest of you, but sometimes the whole PC thing makes me wanna gag. I understand being respectful of people, etc. But sometimes I just wanna go Sarah Silverman on someone, ya know? (LOVE her show, btw.)

So in that vein, I dedicate her Love Song to this thread and to the periodic, ill-advised, strangely satisfying anti-PC mood that hits me from time to time.

Love Song
by Sarah Silverman

I love you more than bears love honey
I love you more than Jews love money
I love you more than Asians are good at math
I love you even if you're not hip
I love you even if black people don't tip

(I'm sure there's more, but that's all I've got for now.)

Feel free to add your own sentiments/lyrics/rants. Only ONE RULE: NO CRITICIZING each other for venting. This thread is meant as a rude, crude, ignorant and socially unacceptable vent, and let's remember that it's ALL IN FUN.

I love you all, even those I despise. Kiss Kiss.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xgohe_sarah-silverman-a-love-song_fun

catefrances · October 2007

Heineken Helen wrote:

honestly, I say this time and time again but I'm starting to think it may be an Irish thing... over here if you say something with a hint of sarcasm and a glint in your eye, if someone takes it personally well they're just fucking nuts. It really is THAT simple. Yet the anti-pc brigade have turned up here too and that's really not gonna go down well here. It's one thing we've always had, the ability to make fun of ourselves... once we lose that, if the economy goes downhill again we're fucked. it's nothing to do with fashionable or not... it's just the way it IS. And there's very few people in real life who I manage to rile so if you think from this that I walk around calling people names all the time, you're wrong. i think you're just not seeing the difference that I referred to in my last post. Do YOU stop celebrating Christmas for fear of offending your Jewish neighbours? Would YOU be offended if someone commented on your new haircut?

you know helen, i understand where youre coming from just as i understand where trix is coming from. but in my experience being white affords me more than a little 'arrogance' than i am comfortable with. having irish heritage i am well aware, even as a white person, how vindictive and prejudicial people can be.
calling people names( why do yuo do that anyway?) may be okay if you call them a bastard. but if you call them a black bastard, that's where the offense begins. even if you were joking. surely you can understand that, yeah?

Heineken Helen · October 2007

catefrances wrote:

you know helen, i understand where youre coming from just as i understand where trix is coming from. but in my experience being white affords me more than a little 'arrogance' than i am comfortable with. having irish heritage i am well aware, even as a white person, how vindictive and prejudicial people can be.
calling people names( why do yuo do that anyway?) may be okay if you call them a bastard. but if you call them a black bastard, that's where the offense begins. even if you were joking. surely you can understand that, yeah?

who's saying anything about calling anyone a black bastard?

I said I DON'T walk around calling people names... I'm actually quite polite

but I can make fun of people and I can take them making fun of me. If somebody's overly offensive they won't be someone I hang around with so I wouldn't be making fun of them anyway.

See I don't see myself as 'white', I'm Irish and we've had our fair share of being put down and we've taken it and given it back and rose above... and did it all joking. If you get defensive you're never gonna get anywhere... you can't go around telling people what they can and can't say or do. We've seen from certain threads in this place that once you START that, the line gets pretty fucking far away and people start making their own interpretations of what's PC and what's not so NOBODY knows what to say. It's all bullshit if you ask me and you're never gonna convince me otherwise.

surfanddestroy · October 2007

Heineken Helen wrote:

who's saying anything about calling anyone a black bastard? I said I DON'T walk around calling people names... I'm actually quite polite but I can make fun of people and I can take them making fun of me. If somebody's overly offensive they won't be someone I hang around with so I wouldn't be making fun of them anyway.

See I don't see myself as 'white', I'm Irish and we've had our fair share of being put down and we've taken it and given it back and rose above... and did it all joking. If you get defensive you're never gonna get anywhere... you can't go around telling people what they can and can't say or do. We've seen from certain threads in this place that once you START that, the line gets pretty fucking far away and people start making their own interpretations of what's PC and what's not so NOBODY knows what to say. It's all bullshit if you ask me and you're never gonna convince me otherwise.

I have to agree with you on this one Helen.

Heineken Helen · October 2007

surfanddestroy wrote:

I have to agree with you on this one Helen.

:rolleyes: who asked YOU?

surfanddestroy · October 2007

Heineken Helen wrote:

:rolleyes: who asked YOU?

Piss off you dumb Irish cow

Heineken Helen · October 2007

surfanddestroy wrote:

Piss off you dumb Irish cow

English bitch

Yeh, I forgot to say... this works with the Brits too. I think it's an Irish/British thing perhaps.

TrixieCat · October 2007

Heineken Helen wrote:

honestly, I say this time and time again but I'm starting to think it may be an Irish thing... over here if you say something with a hint of sarcasm and a glint in your eye, if someone takes it personally well they're just fucking nuts. It really is THAT simple. Yet the anti-pc brigade have turned up here too and that's really not gonna go down well here. It's one thing we've always had, the ability to make fun of ourselves... once we lose that, if the economy goes downhill again we're fucked. it's nothing to do with fashionable or not... it's just the way it IS. And there's very few people in real life who I manage to rile so if you think from this that I walk around calling people names all the time, you're wrong. i think you're just not seeing the difference that I referred to in my last post. Do YOU stop celebrating Christmas for fear of offending your Jewish neighbours? Would YOU be offended if someone commented on your new haircut?

My Jewish friends come over every year to help decorate the tree and watch the Charlie Brown Christmas episode, actually. lol
They don't give a shit about things like that.
PC was put in place to discourage not the novice picker-oner like yourself, but the person that goes overboard and grabs his secretary's breast or the asshole that hangs a noose from a tree. Or the cop that pulls over a black kid driving a car in the wrong side of town, just because.
Or the child at school that feels alienated because he celebrates neither Christmas nor Easter or even birthdays because his parents are Jehovah's Witnesses.

Heineken Helen · October 2007

TrixieCat wrote:

My Jewish friends come over every year to help decorate the tree and watch the Charlie Brown Christmas episode, actually. lol
They don't give a shit about things like that.
PC was put in place to discourage not the novice picker-oner like yourself, but the person that goes overboard and grabs his secretary's breast or the asshole that hangs a noose from a tree. Or the cop that pulls over a black kid driving a car in the wrong side of town, just because.
Or the child at school that feels alienated because he celebrates neither Christmas nor Easter or even birthdays because his parents are Jehovah's Witnesses.

So I'm a novice picker oner eh? Ah dear, you have NO idea. It's so easy to just lable people for their opinions and think they're something they're not. Well what you've described there IS sexual harrassment and murder and well just being a prick. So you reckon that any PC things we make up are gonna change people like that? Nope, it's usually just the average person who tends to go completely overboard with the whole thing. You're talking about one extreme... I'm talking about the other... how far are you willing to let it go?

As for the child at school... well that's their parents being mean not giving them presents :mad: . So nobody at that school should be allowed get a pressie just cos they won't get one?

My cousins didn't celebrate christmas and I always thought that was evil of their parents... everyone else getting pressies and they can't even give them ONE to help them fit in?

TrixieCat · October 2007

Calling you a novice picker-oner was a joke. I just left off the face to see how you would react. lol

Again, what you are saying looks good on paper, but it is not reality. At least not in my world. And besides the fact that you and I live in 2 seperate countries, we also live in 2 seperate worlds.
You work in a corporate environment where it is LAW (at least here) that you follow certain rules and guidelines.
I work at home with my child, am in charge of my mom's club (have to be VERY pc) and also my freelance work is another completely different story.
Without really getting into it, when I was on tour, it was a man's world. If I so much as rolled my eyes as a man grabbed me as he walked by or said my tits looked great in my shirt (common occurences), then I would be the one in trouble, not him. And yes, I did get in trouble before I learned how to play the game. I know what it is like to be sexually harassed and I am not about to let anyone do that to someone else. So if a law needs to be put in place, than so be it.

catefrances · October 2007

Heineken Helen wrote:

who's saying anything about calling anyone a black bastard? I said I DON'T walk around calling people names... I'm actually quite polite but I can make fun of people and I can take them making fun of me. If somebody's overly offensive they won't be someone I hang around with so I wouldn't be making fun of them anyway.

See I don't see myself as 'white', I'm Irish and we've had our fair share of being put down and we've taken it and given it back and rose above... and did it all joking. If you get defensive you're never gonna get anywhere... you can't go around telling people what they can and can't say or do. We've seen from certain threads in this place that once you START that, the line gets pretty fucking far away and people start making their own interpretations of what's PC and what's not so NOBODY knows what to say. It's all bullshit if you ask me and you're never gonna convince me otherwise.

i am well aware of the shit the irish have put up with. i just have to wonder why we accept ridicule in joking form. tis easy for the dominant majority to justify their position because they do so from a position of power. but i also think that people really have to know people in order to get the humour. i admit soemtimes the world needs to lighten up, i just don't know sometimes where the line is drawn.

TrixieCat · October 2007

catefrances wrote:

i am well aware of the shit the irish have put up with. i just have to wonder why we accept ridicule in joking form. tis easy for the dominant majority to justify their position because they do so from a position of power. but i also think that people really have to know people in order to get the humour. i admit soemtimes the world needs to lighten up, i just don't know sometimes where the line is drawn.

yes, yes, yes

Hell, my ancestors are Polish and Irish...if you think I haven't had to deal with this my whole life.....

NMyTree · October 2007

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Heineken Helen · October 2007

TrixieCat wrote:

yes, yes, yes

Hell, my ancestors are Polish and Irish...if you think I haven't had to deal with this my whole life.....

but... you're American!

catefrances · October 2007

TrixieCat wrote:

yes, yes, yes

Hell, my ancestors are Polish and Irish...if you think I haven't had to deal with this my whole life.....

and when did i say you didn't?

Heineken Helen · October 2007

TrixieCat wrote:

Calling you a novice picker-oner was a joke. I just left off the face to see how you would react. lol
Again, what you are saying looks good on paper, but it is not reality. At least not in my world. And besides the fact that you and I live in 2 seperate countries, we also live in 2 seperate worlds.
You work in a corporate environment where it is LAW (at least here) that you follow certain rules and guidelines.
I work at home with my child, am in charge of my mom's club (have to be VERY pc) and also my freelance work is another completely different story.
Without really getting into it, when I was on tour, it was a man's world. If I so much as rolled my eyes as a man grabbed me as he walked by or said my tits looked great in my shirt (common occurences), then I would be the one in trouble, not him. And yes, I did get in trouble before I learned how to play the game. I know what it is like to be sexually harassed and I am not about to let anyone do that to someone else. So if a law needs to be put in place, than so be it.

and I did laugh at you calling me a picker oner... I was thinking 'look who's doing the name calling

AGAIN... You're not getting me... there's a difference between sexual harrassment and somebody telling you your hair looks nice. You can ignore me making this point as much as you like but I'm just going to have to keep repeating it.

Being anti PC is not the same as pro sexual harrassment... but if you push the boundaries TOO far, the perps will ignore EVERY one of them. Take feminism for example. You make yourself equal... don't expect everyone else to do it for you... and the more you TALK about it the more people will ridicule you. You just get out there and DO it and prove you're equal.

TrixieCat · October 2007

catefrances wrote:

and when did i say you didn't?

That wasn't for you cate. Sorry..
Just a general throw it out there.
That is not how it works over here Helen. If you think for one minute that my being of Polish descent wasn't reason enough for people to make fun of me and my family, you are incorrect.
What about African-Americans???? They are American, yes? If they were born on this soil, yes?
I am well aware of the power I have supposedly have being born white and in America. I breeze through the airport. Am not followed around the store as I shop.
Is this something I wear on my sleeve like a badge of honor.

TrixieCat · October 2007

Heineken Helen wrote:

and I did laugh at you calling me a picker oner... I was thinking 'look who's doing the name calling

AGAIN... You're not getting me... there's a difference between sexual harrassment and somebody telling you your hair looks nice. You can ignore me making this point as much as you like but I'm just going to have to keep repeating it.

Being anti PC is not the same as pro sexual harrassment... but if you push the boundaries TOO far, the perps will ignore EVERY one of them. Take feminism for example. You make yourself equal... don't expect everyone else to do it for you... and the more you TALK about it the more people will ridicule you. You just get out there and DO it and prove you're equal.

lol..I just keep forgetting to reply about the haircut.
I wasn't aware that was one of the rules.

Yes, that is pathetic. lol

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