Nugent is a coward

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  • Its Evolution Baby
    Its Evolution Baby Posts: 849
    onelongsong wrote:
    ...i remember mohamid ali went to jail because he refused to enter the military. john kerry shot himself to get out of the military. let's not forget clinton.
    maybe people are jealous of a man who made his fortune and lives his life his way.

    The difference Ali, Clinton, and Kerry didn't go on stage brandishing a machine gun calling people pussies. Ali didn't support any war so he protested. Clinton is in the same boat as Bush, Cheney, Teddy Boy Nugent, in that they all avoided the Nam war. So did a lot of people. It was a crap war. At least Kerry served and there is no proof he shot himself on purpose to get out of the war.

    Its hilarious that Republicans brought up Kerry's war record in Nam and how he was a fraud. What did Bush do during the same time?

    I'll tell you what he did.

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  • Its Evolution Baby
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    gue_barium wrote:
    Hannity is...

    a large piece of turd hanging out of a cow's ass. In slow-motion.

    He's much worse then that!!!

    Does anyone hear remember how upset he was over Zach De La Rochas comments at Coachella? He wanted the Sercret Service to investigate the entire band!!!!

    Teddy says basically the same thing but with a machine gun and he is chuckling.

    Anyone who listens to or quotes Hannity is below avg intelligence or just doesn't give a *%*# that they look like a hypocrite.
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  • onelongsong
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    Its Evolution Baby wrote:
    The difference Ali, Clinton, and Kerry didn't go on stage brandishing a machine gun calling people pussies. Ali didn't support any war so he protested. Clinton is in the same boat as Bush, Cheney, Teddy Boy Nugent, in that they all avoided the Nam war. So did a lot of people. It was a crap war. At least Kerry served and there is no proof he shot himself on purpose to get out of the war.

    Its hilarious that Republicans brought up Kerry's war record in Nam and how he was a fraud. What did Bush do during the same time?

    I'll tell you what he did.

    Hookers and Coke.

    how are you different? you just made a slanderous comment you cannot prove. if you want to set standards for people; then everyone should be held to those same standards; including you.
    the draft ended 4 days before i had to report. i was prepared to pull strings to get out of it if the draft hadn't ended. vietnam was lost on the mainland first. if the public isn't supportive; troops don't get the tools or manpower they need so all we do is send fresh bodies for the enemy to shoot.
  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    keeponrockin wrote:
    It's the fact that he acts as though he supports war, but didn't go when he had the chance that gets me.

    Ali didn't support the war so it was a protest. What was Ted's?

    By the way, I do dig his music.

    i never supported the vietnam war and i wouldn't have gone either. our reasons for being in vietnam are different from our reasons for being in iraq. if you say we're in iraq because of oil; then it's because you haven't learned to live without oil. you make oil valuable by buying its products. your DEMAND for oil has made that war necessary.

    ** i don't mean you personally.
  • THC
    THC Posts: 525
    godpt3 wrote:
    Facing a draft, Nugent bravely wet his pants

    Rocker is all talk as he calls Obama, Hillary vile names

    August 27, 2007
    BY RICHARD ROEPER Sun-Times Columnist
    So Ted Nugent roams a concert stage while toting automatic weapons, calls Barack Obama "a piece of
    " and says he told Obama to suck on one of his machine-guns. He also calls Hillary Clinton a "worthless bitch" and Dianne Feinstein a "worthless whore."

    That Nugent, he's a man's man. He talks the talk and walks the walk, right?

    Except when it was time to register for the draft during the Vietnam era. By his own admission, Nugent stopped all forms of personal hygiene for a month and showed up for his draft board physical in pants caked with his own urine and feces, winning a deferment. Creative!

    Ah, but that was a long time ago. Nugent isn't just a washed-up rocker -- he's a right-wing madman who's not afraid to call out some of the leading Democrats in language so vile it makes the Dixie Chick Natalie Maines' comments about President Bush sound like a love poem.

    You'd think even someone such as Sean Hannity would dismiss Nugent as a macho clown, desperate for attention.

    Yeah, right.

    In a discussion on his show last week, Hannity refused to condemn Nugent's remarks, saying, "I like Ted Nugent . . . he's a friend of mine," and even laughing loudly as Alan Colmes read the transcript of some of Nugent's remarks.

    Funny. I don't remember Hannity being so cavalier about the Dixie Chicks went they criticized Bush.

    Not that he's operating under a double standard or anything.

    Is it Hannity or Colmes who is the host of "Tales from the Crypt"...??
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  • RainDog
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    onelongsong wrote:
    i like teddy and he's a friend of mine too. but i guess he doesn't have the same 1st amendment rights as everyone else. i've been on this board for years and what people have said here about politicians makes teddys comments seem like compliments. but it's ok for you to speak your mind; just not ted.
    i remember mohamid ali went to jail because he refused to enter the military. john kerry shot himself to get out of the military. let's not forget clinton.
    maybe people are jealous of a man who made his fortune and lives his life his way.
    Is anyone here from the government? Has anyone here tried to silence your - um - friend? No? Didn't think so.

    "Teddy" can say whatever dumbassed, ignorant thing he wants - and anyone else who wants to call him out for the hypocrite that he is has every right to do so under that same 1st amendment.

    And I'm not calling him a hypocrite for avoiding the draft (though it kind of sounds like he is). I'm calling him a hypocrite for going on Hannity's show and crying like the little wuss he is over someone saying the same shit about him.

    Oh, and his music sucks.
  • Binaural
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    onelongsong wrote:
    if you say we're in iraq because of oil; then it's because you haven't learned to live without oil. you make oil valuable by buying its products. your DEMAND for oil has made that war necessary.
    Why do you think the US is in Iraq?
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  • onelongsong
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    RainDog wrote:
    Is anyone here from the government? Has anyone here tried to silence your - um - friend? No? Didn't think so.

    "Teddy" can say whatever dumbassed, ignorant thing he wants - and anyone else who wants to call him out for the hypocrite that he is has every right to do so under that same 1st amendment.

    And I'm not calling him a hypocrite for avoiding the draft (though it kind of sounds like he is). I'm calling him a hypocrite for going on Hannity's show and crying like the little wuss he is over someone saying the same shit about him.

    Oh, and his music sucks.

    are you saying that if someone supports war; then they must support EVERY war no matter what the reason for going to war? this is what i'm not understanding about this thread. does it also mean that a person cannot change their views from what they believed when they were 18 years old? i would've pulled strings to get out of the draft (it ended days before i had to report) yet i would go to iraq if i wasn't 51. i have a son in iraq and several nephews there too.
  • onelongsong
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    Binaural wrote:
    Why do you think the US is in Iraq?

    there's several reasons. prior to the election bush made it clear that we were going into iraq if saddam didn't allow inspections. we elected him knowing he would deal with saddam. i don't know why it's such a surprise to everyone except that people only hear what they want to hear.
    the vietnam war was meant to fight communism; and fueled by paranoia. iraq was to unseat a dictator that didn't play by the rules the rest of the world had to follow; and who also killed thousands of innocent people (genocide).
    if we're there for oil; the iraqi people own that oil and will continue to own that oil until they sell it. if saddam was still in power; he'd own the oil until he sold it. once it hits the market it doesn't matter who buys it. war or not; saddam or not; that oil was and is going to hit the world market.
  • ledvedderman
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    Its Evolution Baby wrote:
    Clinton is in the same boat as Bush

    No, not really. Clinton wasn't enlisted in the armed services and was being drafted in. Bush was enlisted and used his pull so he could get out of doing his JOB.
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  • onelongsong
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    ledvedderman wrote:
    No, not really. Clinton wasn't enlisted in the armed services and was being drafted in. Bush was enlisted and used his pull so he could get out of doing his JOB.

    i seem to remember a news anchor losing his job for making those same claims.
  • Its Evolution Baby
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    onelongsong wrote:
    how are you different? you just made a slanderous comment you cannot prove. if you want to set standards for people; then everyone should be held to those same standards; including you.
    the draft ended 4 days before i had to report. i was prepared to pull strings to get out of it if the draft hadn't ended. vietnam was lost on the mainland first. if the public isn't supportive; troops don't get the tools or manpower they need so all we do is send fresh bodies for the enemy to shoot.

    That was my point actually. It doesn't do any good to attack Kerry on his war record when we don't know what Bush was doing. My Hookers and Coke comment was in repsonse to you saying Kerry shot himself to get out of the war. At least he went.
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  • ledvedderman
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    onelongsong wrote:
    i seem to remember a news anchor losing his job for making those same claims.

    and that is...
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  • onelongsong
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    Its Evolution Baby wrote:
    That was my point actually. It doesn't do any good to attack Kerry on his war record when we don't know what Bush was doing. My Hookers and Coke comment was in repsonse to you saying Kerry shot himself to get out of the war. At least he went.

    he was there 4 months; got shot 3 times with only flesh wounds; and men from his outfit confessed they knew what was going on. one confessed to shooting him in the leg but he could've only been looking for attention. we really don't know if he did or didn't. what we do know is that kerry is honored by the north vietnamese as a war hero. his picture proudly displayed in their "shrine". in their eyes; he won the war for them.
  • Its Evolution Baby
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    ledvedderman wrote:
    and that is...

    It was Dan Rather. And it was quite unfortunate as I like him. It had something with not checking sources on Bushy's National Guard service story that they ran a few years back. I'm sure somenone else can explain better.
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  • onelongsong
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    ledvedderman wrote:
    and that is...

    i can't remember his name. he was from 60 minutes or 20/20 or something like that. he showed a bunch of documents and stood by them until they were proven fraudulent. i do remember the name of the person that had motive to distribute fraudulent documents in an attempt to slander bush. his name is kerry.
  • RainDog
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    onelongsong wrote:
    are you saying that if someone supports war; then they must support EVERY war no matter what the reason for going to war? this is what i'm not understanding about this thread. does it also mean that a person cannot change their views from what they believed when they were 18 years old? i would've pulled strings to get out of the draft (it ended days before i had to report) yet i would go to iraq if i wasn't 51. i have a son in iraq and several nephews there too.
    Somehow, I don't think the nuge was part of the anti-vietnam side of things. I could be wrong. I am pretty sure he's been Mr. - um - "hardassed" conservative his entire life, though; so I don't buy it that his views have changed all that much.

    But that's not the point. The point is, the nuge is a whiny titmouse hypocrite of a human being who simply doesn't have the stones to take what he dishes out. Oh, and his music is tepid, flavorless tripe that doesn't match the bombast that comes out of his mouth - so I'll take any opportunity to exercise my first amendment rights and bash the idiot. Doesn't mean I want him censored.
  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    Its Evolution Baby wrote:
    It was Dan Rather. And it was quite unfortunate as I like him. It had something with not checking sources on Bushy's National Guard service story that they ran a few years back. I'm sure somenone else can explain better.

    i liked dan rather too. it's a shame he never recovered from that scandle.
  • ledvedderman
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    Its Evolution Baby wrote:
    It was Dan Rather. And it was quite unfortunate as I like him. It had something with not checking sources on Bushy's National Guard service story that they ran a few years back. I'm sure somenone else can explain better.

    Ah yes, how could I forget about that. Yeah, he should have checked his sources on that one.
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  • RainDog
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    onelongsong wrote:
    he was there 4 months; got shot 3 times with only flesh wounds; and men from his outfit confessed they knew what was going on. one confessed to shooting him in the leg but he could've only been looking for attention. we really don't know if he did or didn't. what we do know is that kerry is honored by the north vietnamese as a war hero. his picture proudly displayed in their "shrine". in their eyes; he won the war for them.
    Got any links for this? Aside from the Swift boaters, of course. I'm especially interested in his North Vietnamese "war hero" status.

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