World's wealthy worth $37.2 trillion and give <1% to charity

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  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    The Rothschilds alone have more money than that.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    mammasan wrote:
    It's not a crime. It's unfortunate, but what people do with their money is their business and they are in no way shape or form obligated to help the less fortunate. I personally would like to see those that have the means to help actually do it but I will not begrudge them for not doing it.


    Well it should be a crime because it's doing a lot of harm just the same as other things that are against the law. I believe we owe it to humanity and to ourselves to make sure that the least among us aren't suffering needlessly. If you're allowing that to happen...damn right I'll begrudge you.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    I'm sorry but it is when so many people in this world are dying from hunger and disease becuase they have no means to fix these problems. It's a fucking crime.

    The thing is, ALL of us on this board are rich compared to the world. I guess we're all committing a crime.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    know1 wrote:
    The thing is, ALL of us on this board are rich compared to the world. I guess we're all committing a crime.


    If you're not giving anything or less than 1% then yes, I think you are.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • 1970RR
    1970RR Posts: 281
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    Well it should be a crime because it's doing a lot of harm just the same as other things that are against the law. I believe we owe it to humanity and to ourselves to make sure that the least among us aren't suffering needlessly. If you're allowing that to happen...damn right I'll begrudge you.
    It all ready is - its called tax evasion.
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    1970RR wrote:
    It all ready is - its called tax evasion.

    You know, we wouldn't even need taxes if people with the money would give a shit about some else's well being along side their own. But this just proves it won't happen..it would only get worse for the needy if we dropped the tax system.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • Abuskedti
    Abuskedti Posts: 1,917
    mammasan wrote:
    What are you talking about. American individuals are some of the most charitable in the world. We actually donate more to foreign causes than our own government, in 2004 the US government spent 19.1 billion in foreign aid. The US public spent 71 billion. Also in the past 6 years the amount of charitable donations by Americans had steadily increased every year.

    what does 19.1 or 6 billion mean? How many are still starving? How many are suffering from preventable illness? All could be helped.

    A great percentage of aid is direcly compensated by tax breaks or an necessary expense for political or social image?

    Does that $90 billion somehow show we care?
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    Well it should be a crime because it's doing a lot of harm just the same as other things that are against the law. I believe we owe it to humanity and to ourselves to make sure that the least among us aren't suffering needlessly. If you're allowing that to happen...damn right I'll begrudge you.

    Well I can't agree with that. I can't force my views on another nor can demand that they act according to my will.

    How would you feel if you where told that you had to do something against your will?
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    Abuskedti wrote:
    Does that $90 billion somehow show we care?

    Yes it does and if you can't see that then that's your problem.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    mammasan wrote:
    Well I can't agree with that. I can't force my views on another nor can demand that they act according to my will.

    How would you feel if you where told that you had to do something against your will?

    If I was being stopped from harming another then it would be justifed.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • even flow?
    even flow? Posts: 8,066
    know1 wrote:
    The thing is, ALL of us on this board are rich compared to the world. I guess we're all committing a crime.



    Judging by this comment the people I toss loonies to are rich compared to the rest of the world. And I am sure you wouldn't trade your life to live the way they do. This comment is one of the most tiring when this conversation comes up.
    You've changed your place in this world!
  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    Abuskedti wrote:
    don't disagree with that at all. You throw money and people will scramble for new clever ways to catch it.

    It really doesn't matter..as a group, American's really have no inclination to help anyone. Not as a nation or as individuals. We are built to serve ourselves. Funny thing is, we also consider ourselves a Christian nation.

    When the martians come - it will be so embarassing

    i think a lot of people on this board are too young to remember the real america. they describe things and i remember those things as the way it used to be. we're more worried about removing the words "under God" from the pledge and will spend millions to do that. years ago that money went to help people get on their feet. we created this world we live in. we over load the courts and burn the governments money on things like this; then cry when we can't have more.
  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    You know, we wouldn't even need taxes if people with the money would give a shit about some else's well being along side their own. But this just proves it won't happen..it would only get worse for the needy if we dropped the tax system.

    the same humanity that steals from me; or holds me at gunpoint? i'll donate to NORML but screw humanity until they start acting proper and deserving.
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    If I was being stopped from harming another then it would be justifed.

    Well that is obvious. If you where forced to spend your money a certain way?
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    onelongsong wrote:
    i think a lot of people on this board are too young to remember the real america. they describe things and i remember those things as the way it used to be. we're more worried about removing the words "under God" from the pledge and will spend millions to do that. years ago that money went to help people get on their feet. we created this world we live in. we over load the courts and burn the governments money on things like this; then cry when we can't have more.

    Are you sure it wasn't the same money that went to the Vietnam war? Or the persecution of homosexuality?
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    mammasan wrote:
    Well that is obvious. If you where forced to spend your money a certain way?

    Yes (it's not about all of your money just a percentage) or prevented from taking so much to begin with by using unfair practices and policies.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    I just don't believe the liberty do whatever you wish with all of your money or your liberty to gain as much wealth by any means you choose should trump the lives of others who are suffering endlessly and dying while you enjoy all of your precious liberty. Liberty means shit to them...they often don't even have access to a clean glass of water.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Are you sure it wasn't the same money that went to the Vietnam war? Or the persecution of homosexuality?

    it was money spent to fight against the vietman war; to give equal rights to everyone; and get government OUT of our bedrooms. we also donated to the needy; but back then they were needy because of an accident or disability. now people are just lazy and i won't support that.
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    Yes (it's not about all of your money just a percentage) or prevented from taking so much to begin with by using unfair practices and policies.

    It doesn't matter how small the percentage I can't agree to forcing someone to spend the money the way I see fit. Secondly not all wealthy individuals obtained their money through unfair practices or policies. Not every CEO fits the preconceived mold, that you have created for them, of the greedy old man swiping his employees retirement fund to buy another mansion. If it wasn't for some of these wealthy people I would have a job nor would you.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    Yes (it's not about all of your money just a percentage) or prevented from taking so much to begin with by using unfair practices and policies.

    we have that. it's called taxes. and when the majority of people say raise our taxes and give it to the poor; the government will gladly take that money and distribute it. will you be the first to say "raise my taxes"?

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