Isn't it a republican position that charitable assistance should not come from the government, but from the private sector? You know, less government.. well except when it comes to building a family... the republican positon there is that choice remains one for congress.
let's take this a step further. people donated when they believed in the cause. people donated when the money went to the needy and not to administrators padding their pockets. years ago we donated to organizations that taught people how to fish; now they just give away fish and that doesn't help anyone. why donate to that cause?
I honestly don't think one person here has suggested that it is not the rich's right to donate next to nothing. Have they judged them? Sure. They think it is sad that people don't do more. I did not see any suggestions of "Charity donation minimums for the rich" or "jail time for non-donators."
Meanwhile...
Don't judge them. They can do what they want with their money and owe nothing to the world. By the way, you non-christians are going to hell. It says so in the bible, which we should be reading in public schools. And while you, socialist, are not suggesting laws about charity, we DO have laws that do not allow you to get high and we are trying our damndest to get abortion outlawed. My laws are all over your body, slut.
Calling ppl names like this is pritty fucked up.
So I think I will do something fucked up.
You are an asshole.
let's take this a step further. people donated when they believed in the cause. people donated when the money went to the needy and not to administrators padding their pockets. years ago we donated to organizations that taught people how to fish; now they just give away fish and that doesn't help anyone. why donate to that cause?
don't disagree with that at all. You throw money and people will scramble for new clever ways to catch it.
It really doesn't matter..as a group, American's really have no inclination to help anyone. Not as a nation or as individuals. We are built to serve ourselves. Funny thing is, we also consider ourselves a Christian nation.
When the martians come - it will be so embarassing
don't disagree with that at all. You throw money and people will scramble for new clever ways to catch it.
It really doesn't matter..as a group, American's really have no inclination to help anyone. Not as a nation or as individuals. We are built to serve ourselves. Funny thing is, we also consider ourselves a Christian nation.
When the martians come - it will be so embarassing
What are you talking about. American individuals are some of the most charitable in the world. We actually donate more to foreign causes than our own government, in 2004 the US government spent 19.1 billion in foreign aid. The US public spent 71 billion. Also in the past 6 years the amount of charitable donations by Americans had steadily increased every year.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
What is wrong with being helpful towards others who need it?
And living a happy low-key simple life without super-extravagance.
There is nothing wrong with that, but no one is obligated to live that way. If someone wants to blow all their money on themselves that is their business not ours.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
Well I wouldn't say all liberals. I'm pretty liberal, socially speaking, but I have also noticed a sweeping feeling of entitlement amongst many liberals. They feel that the government and/or wealthy are obligated to provide certain entitlements to society which is not true. The rich are not obligated to be charitable with their money and the government is not obligated to provide certain services or benefits to the public. It is an added benefit to society if these entities decide to provide, in the form of charitable contributions or social services, but by no means are these things entitled to us.
Long time reader of this thread, first time comment. I don't really think the government should hold everybody's hand and give them what they want. But when you vote on your own raises, which always end up in a yea status, you better be doing something for the less fortunate. Thus, why pay taxes to an entity that I don't really have any control over. But can dictate almost everything about the way I live. F'n right that those who benefit from lack of the government leash better be giving back in one way or another. If they want to roll around in their money and keep it to themselves that is their bizniz. And we are free to call them what we want. The situation ain't going to change. People need to get off their high horses on both sides of the fence. You can't see government regulations that aide rich well you are oblivious to how the big show works. You can't see why the rich don't want to part with their money you are just as oblivious. The only classes in life should be in school. I don't look up to people who are rich or self made as much as I don't look down my nose at the poor and people who have fallen on hard times.
There is nothing wrong with that, but no one is obligated to live that way. If someone wants to blow all their money on themselves that is their business not ours.
I'm sorry but it is when so many people in this world are dying from hunger and disease becuase they have no means to fix these problems. It's a fucking crime.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Abortion? Leave me alone, it's my body, my choice.
Drugs? Legalize them, we should be truly free and have a choice to use them if we desire.
God? Don't force that down my throat.
Other peoples money? Well…they should spend it the way WE think they should spend it…or they're greedy pigs!!!!!!!!!!!
Funny how you guys get so involved with other peoples money, but you're so hands off about everything else. I wonder who the real greedy bastards are sometimes.
Sorry, but I've always said we should stay out of people's lives if their actions aren't causing any harm to others. This extreme greed and control over the world's resources and wealth is hurting waaaaaaay more people than abortion or drugs EVER WILL.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
I'm sorry but it is when so many people in this world are dying from hunger and disease becuase they have no means to fix these problems. It's a fucking crime.
It's not a crime. It's unfortunate, but what people do with their money is their business and they are in no way shape or form obligated to help the less fortunate. I personally would like to see those that have the means to help actually do it but I will not begrudge them for not doing it.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
It's not a crime. It's unfortunate, but what people do with their money is their business and they are in no way shape or form obligated to help the less fortunate. I personally would like to see those that have the means to help actually do it but I will not begrudge them for not doing it.
Well it should be a crime because it's doing a lot of harm just the same as other things that are against the law. I believe we owe it to humanity and to ourselves to make sure that the least among us aren't suffering needlessly. If you're allowing that to happen...damn right I'll begrudge you.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
I'm sorry but it is when so many people in this world are dying from hunger and disease becuase they have no means to fix these problems. It's a fucking crime.
The thing is, ALL of us on this board are rich compared to the world. I guess we're all committing a crime.
The only people we should try to get even with...
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
Well it should be a crime because it's doing a lot of harm just the same as other things that are against the law. I believe we owe it to humanity and to ourselves to make sure that the least among us aren't suffering needlessly. If you're allowing that to happen...damn right I'll begrudge you.
You know, we wouldn't even need taxes if people with the money would give a shit about some else's well being along side their own. But this just proves it won't happen..it would only get worse for the needy if we dropped the tax system.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
What are you talking about. American individuals are some of the most charitable in the world. We actually donate more to foreign causes than our own government, in 2004 the US government spent 19.1 billion in foreign aid. The US public spent 71 billion. Also in the past 6 years the amount of charitable donations by Americans had steadily increased every year.
what does 19.1 or 6 billion mean? How many are still starving? How many are suffering from preventable illness? All could be helped.
A great percentage of aid is direcly compensated by tax breaks or an necessary expense for political or social image?
Well it should be a crime because it's doing a lot of harm just the same as other things that are against the law. I believe we owe it to humanity and to ourselves to make sure that the least among us aren't suffering needlessly. If you're allowing that to happen...damn right I'll begrudge you.
Well I can't agree with that. I can't force my views on another nor can demand that they act according to my will.
How would you feel if you where told that you had to do something against your will?
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
The thing is, ALL of us on this board are rich compared to the world. I guess we're all committing a crime.
Judging by this comment the people I toss loonies to are rich compared to the rest of the world. And I am sure you wouldn't trade your life to live the way they do. This comment is one of the most tiring when this conversation comes up.
don't disagree with that at all. You throw money and people will scramble for new clever ways to catch it.
It really doesn't matter..as a group, American's really have no inclination to help anyone. Not as a nation or as individuals. We are built to serve ourselves. Funny thing is, we also consider ourselves a Christian nation.
When the martians come - it will be so embarassing
i think a lot of people on this board are too young to remember the real america. they describe things and i remember those things as the way it used to be. we're more worried about removing the words "under God" from the pledge and will spend millions to do that. years ago that money went to help people get on their feet. we created this world we live in. we over load the courts and burn the governments money on things like this; then cry when we can't have more.
You know, we wouldn't even need taxes if people with the money would give a shit about some else's well being along side their own. But this just proves it won't happen..it would only get worse for the needy if we dropped the tax system.
the same humanity that steals from me; or holds me at gunpoint? i'll donate to NORML but screw humanity until they start acting proper and deserving.
i think a lot of people on this board are too young to remember the real america. they describe things and i remember those things as the way it used to be. we're more worried about removing the words "under God" from the pledge and will spend millions to do that. years ago that money went to help people get on their feet. we created this world we live in. we over load the courts and burn the governments money on things like this; then cry when we can't have more.
Are you sure it wasn't the same money that went to the Vietnam war? Or the persecution of homosexuality?
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
I just don't believe the liberty do whatever you wish with all of your money or your liberty to gain as much wealth by any means you choose should trump the lives of others who are suffering endlessly and dying while you enjoy all of your precious liberty. Liberty means shit to them...they often don't even have access to a clean glass of water.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Are you sure it wasn't the same money that went to the Vietnam war? Or the persecution of homosexuality?
it was money spent to fight against the vietman war; to give equal rights to everyone; and get government OUT of our bedrooms. we also donated to the needy; but back then they were needy because of an accident or disability. now people are just lazy and i won't support that.
Yes (it's not about all of your money just a percentage) or prevented from taking so much to begin with by using unfair practices and policies.
It doesn't matter how small the percentage I can't agree to forcing someone to spend the money the way I see fit. Secondly not all wealthy individuals obtained their money through unfair practices or policies. Not every CEO fits the preconceived mold, that you have created for them, of the greedy old man swiping his employees retirement fund to buy another mansion. If it wasn't for some of these wealthy people I would have a job nor would you.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
Yes (it's not about all of your money just a percentage) or prevented from taking so much to begin with by using unfair practices and policies.
we have that. it's called taxes. and when the majority of people say raise our taxes and give it to the poor; the government will gladly take that money and distribute it. will you be the first to say "raise my taxes"?
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let's take this a step further. people donated when they believed in the cause. people donated when the money went to the needy and not to administrators padding their pockets. years ago we donated to organizations that taught people how to fish; now they just give away fish and that doesn't help anyone. why donate to that cause?
Calling ppl names like this is pritty fucked up.
So I think I will do something fucked up.
You are an asshole.
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
don't disagree with that at all. You throw money and people will scramble for new clever ways to catch it.
It really doesn't matter..as a group, American's really have no inclination to help anyone. Not as a nation or as individuals. We are built to serve ourselves. Funny thing is, we also consider ourselves a Christian nation.
When the martians come - it will be so embarassing
What are you talking about. American individuals are some of the most charitable in the world. We actually donate more to foreign causes than our own government, in 2004 the US government spent 19.1 billion in foreign aid. The US public spent 71 billion. Also in the past 6 years the amount of charitable donations by Americans had steadily increased every year.
And living a happy low-key simple life without super-extravagance.
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
There is nothing wrong with that, but no one is obligated to live that way. If someone wants to blow all their money on themselves that is their business not ours.
Long time reader of this thread, first time comment.
I'm sorry but it is when so many people in this world are dying from hunger and disease becuase they have no means to fix these problems. It's a fucking crime.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Sorry, but I've always said we should stay out of people's lives if their actions aren't causing any harm to others. This extreme greed and control over the world's resources and wealth is hurting waaaaaaay more people than abortion or drugs EVER WILL.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
It's not a crime. It's unfortunate, but what people do with their money is their business and they are in no way shape or form obligated to help the less fortunate. I personally would like to see those that have the means to help actually do it but I will not begrudge them for not doing it.
Well it should be a crime because it's doing a lot of harm just the same as other things that are against the law. I believe we owe it to humanity and to ourselves to make sure that the least among us aren't suffering needlessly. If you're allowing that to happen...damn right I'll begrudge you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
The thing is, ALL of us on this board are rich compared to the world. I guess we're all committing a crime.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
If you're not giving anything or less than 1% then yes, I think you are.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
You know, we wouldn't even need taxes if people with the money would give a shit about some else's well being along side their own. But this just proves it won't happen..it would only get worse for the needy if we dropped the tax system.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
what does 19.1 or 6 billion mean? How many are still starving? How many are suffering from preventable illness? All could be helped.
A great percentage of aid is direcly compensated by tax breaks or an necessary expense for political or social image?
Does that $90 billion somehow show we care?
Well I can't agree with that. I can't force my views on another nor can demand that they act according to my will.
How would you feel if you where told that you had to do something against your will?
Yes it does and if you can't see that then that's your problem.
If I was being stopped from harming another then it would be justifed.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Judging by this comment the people I toss loonies to are rich compared to the rest of the world. And I am sure you wouldn't trade your life to live the way they do. This comment is one of the most tiring when this conversation comes up.
i think a lot of people on this board are too young to remember the real america. they describe things and i remember those things as the way it used to be. we're more worried about removing the words "under God" from the pledge and will spend millions to do that. years ago that money went to help people get on their feet. we created this world we live in. we over load the courts and burn the governments money on things like this; then cry when we can't have more.
the same humanity that steals from me; or holds me at gunpoint? i'll donate to NORML but screw humanity until they start acting proper and deserving.
Well that is obvious. If you where forced to spend your money a certain way?
Are you sure it wasn't the same money that went to the Vietnam war? Or the persecution of homosexuality?
Yes (it's not about all of your money just a percentage) or prevented from taking so much to begin with by using unfair practices and policies.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
it was money spent to fight against the vietman war; to give equal rights to everyone; and get government OUT of our bedrooms. we also donated to the needy; but back then they were needy because of an accident or disability. now people are just lazy and i won't support that.
It doesn't matter how small the percentage I can't agree to forcing someone to spend the money the way I see fit. Secondly not all wealthy individuals obtained their money through unfair practices or policies. Not every CEO fits the preconceived mold, that you have created for them, of the greedy old man swiping his employees retirement fund to buy another mansion. If it wasn't for some of these wealthy people I would have a job nor would you.
we have that. it's called taxes. and when the majority of people say raise our taxes and give it to the poor; the government will gladly take that money and distribute it. will you be the first to say "raise my taxes"?