Vedder Claims "Illegal" Drug Use: Is He "Scum"? Should We Jail Him?

We all have this desire to look up..........

We look up,
we dream up,
we pray up,
we cry up.........

we want a god...

we want to grow up and do what the hell we want to....

no more will anyone tell us what to do......no way.......

but when we look at anyone we admire and expect them to be perfect,

we are so fucked up.

who cares if Eddie does drugs; he never asked to be a role model, just a musician...

he shouldn't be jailed .......

I am my own kids' parent; no celebrities are responsible for their outcome...

it's me and God. period.

"hero worship's such a fucked up thing
people twist the messages you're sending
'hey all I ever wanted was to sing'"

Collin wrote:

A Canadian psychotherapist who conducted research with LSD was denied entry to the United States after a border guard Googled his work.

http://www.alternet.org/drugreporter/50948/

bush has admiited to doing coke, it was on tape, so why the fuck is he allowed to step outside his country??

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

Well?

I've heard that all drug users are scum, and a waste.
That they are a burden to society, and that they should be thrown in jail as an example.

A rock-mega-star such as Eddie would make a GREAT EXAMPLE.

I mean, that should keep, what, like 10 million kids off drugs?

And,
i've also heard that "no good" can come of recreational drug use ... and yet eddie mentions during Rock Werchter in Belgium that he was wasted because of a "pill" that Josh had given him earlier.

So Eddie was fucked up when he performed this: Slow Night, So Long ...

Seems that some people in pretty "high" places think that recreational drug use can serve certain artistic merits.

But i just want to know,
because Eddie has incriminated himself on numerous occasions admitting to drug use in the past. He insinuates it presently as well.

IS EDDIE SCUM?
SHOULD WE JAIL HIM TO SET AN EXAMPLE?

i don't think eddie is a scum... i don't think anybody who takes drugs are scum.

i do think however that drug-addicts like layne staley needed serious help. i consider them junkies.... and i think those people who actually waste their life away in drugs are the one's who lead others to believe that "nothing good comes from drugs." i guess, it just depends on experiences you had. like an abusive alcoholic dad.... i'm sure the kids think their dad is a "junk" too. not necessarily though.

Drowned Out wrote:

Abortion I try to stay away from. Too emotional.
Religion - I don't feel my opinions would/should mean much to anyone.
The free-will debates? I saw god at the start of one of those threads...she told me that I better twist one, or by the time I was six/seven posts in, I'd wish my folks had aborted me

* points added for making 'god' a SHE. well done.
all else on this topic...i think overall we are in agreeance, and the rest...mere details.

don't gimme no wrote:

Drugs have ruined many lives and killed plenty of good people. Just like alcohol. Some people are more prone to addiction or just flat out use irresponsibly. I think it's best to just stay clean. There are plenty of other things to do, plenty of other things to feel. This world can be a pretty shitty place and a lot of us really do need drugs to get by. But once you get through that and can live life without drugs it's even a much better place. Kind of a circular reference there....hope I made sense.

Yep you did. I genuinely don't think soft drugs lead to hard drugs. I think you're either gonna take them or you're not. Most of the people I know who smoke wouldn't DREAM of touching anything harder... and they never will. Actually most of them are pretty sensible and are in sensible jobs. Others mess around with some mainly 'harmless' drugs. But when I see the zombies walking the street, it just makes me so sad. Such a waste of a life... how can things get that bad that you think heroin's gonna help? Sad to say but maybe some of them would have been better killing themselves at that point :(

Hey, thanks for turning me onto some (new-- for me anyway) music......

I loved this clip and also watched the clip of the same song done in Hawaii.

As in my profile, I'm not too young and have seen a lot of wasted people in my time and Eddie doesn't appear to be beyond comprehension or ability to perform.

I don't get it; who is this guy who started this thread????

A fed??

thanks for clearing that up..............

well, let's open up this a bit............

i was a hippy, in the 80's when they called us "freaks".......(there were jocks, freaks, greasers........jocks got drunk and dated cheerleaders, later on got fat and bald and greasers wore weird clothes called freaks "drug addicts" and later on sold coke...so much for their anti drug stance and most of the freaks, grew up, got real lifes and outgrew drugs)

I think that is the real thing about drugs. Do they interfere with your life? Some people think that drug use should be legal, feeling that the hardcore drug users could just od and be done with it. That said, I would feel sad if
Eddie did enough drugs that made him a lost soul and wasted his art, a great gift that it is. A gift that he shared with us.

But is it a crime? No, not a legal crime but a crime that would be one if it messed up your life, marriage or kids' lives. That said, we should mind our own business, worry more about the weird, pedifile type druggies, who for some sick reason, target kids to get them into drugs (but I gotta wonder...do people really give out drugs for free????) and worry less about the stars that we like, and enjoy their work. period...........

of course he's not scum...but obviouly he is maladaptive, and trying to mask his insecurities....and not living up to his full human potential...besides the fact he most definitely is part of the 98% who is not 'self-actualized' otherwise he would not abuse himself in such a mannner.




i'll admit, at most....poor form to discuss illegal drug use.....but yea...i think the man, like so many others.....is capable of making such choices for himself...and we all could aspire to live up to our potential to such a degree.

made it to the ocean,
smoked a joint in a tree...

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

IS EDDIE SCUM?
SHOULD WE JAIL HIM TO SET AN EXAMPLE?

he's no better than anyone else. If he gets caught and prosecuted and convicted then he should serve the time (whatever that may be). But we shouldn't arrest him to set an example.