seriously. i know TONS of successful people around my age (I'm 31) who smoke either occasionally or frequently. most of the people i work with incl some mgmt smoke. the fact is they don't go after yuppies or rock stars. they go after the lower classes because they can put them in prison, make them into slaves and no one cares.
Hey, thanks for turning me onto some (new-- for me anyway) music......
I loved this clip and also watched the clip of the same song done in Hawaii.
As in my profile, I'm not too young and have seen a lot of wasted people in my time and Eddie doesn't appear to be beyond comprehension or ability to perform.
I don't get it; who is this guy who started this thread????
A fed??
Baby, You Wouldn't Last a Minute on The Creek......
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
Hey, thanks for turning me onto some (new-- for me anyway) music......
I loved this clip and also watched the clip of the same song done in Hawaii.
As in my profile, I'm not too young and have seen a lot of wasted people in my time and Eddie doesn't appear to be beyond comprehension or ability to perform.
I don't get it; who is this guy who started this thread????
A fed??
There's a person who posts here who believes drug users are by default drug abusers and losers and scum. I think the thread starter wanted to show that's a rather ignorant view of drug users.
i was a hippy, in the 80's when they called us "freaks".......(there were jocks, freaks, greasers........jocks got drunk and dated cheerleaders, later on got fat and bald and greasers wore weird clothes called freaks "drug addicts" and later on sold coke...so much for their anti drug stance and most of the freaks, grew up, got real lifes and outgrew drugs)
I think that is the real thing about drugs. Do they interfere with your life? Some people think that drug use should be legal, feeling that the hardcore drug users could just od and be done with it. That said, I would feel sad if
Eddie did enough drugs that made him a lost soul and wasted his art, a great gift that it is. A gift that he shared with us.
But is it a crime? No, not a legal crime but a crime that would be one if it messed up your life, marriage or kids' lives. That said, we should mind our own business, worry more about the weird, pedifile type druggies, who for some sick reason, target kids to get them into drugs (but I gotta wonder...do people really give out drugs for free????) and worry less about the stars that we like, and enjoy their work. period...........
Baby, You Wouldn't Last a Minute on The Creek......
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
Jail the scum for calling other people scum...they're the problem...
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
of course he's not scum...but obviouly he is maladaptive, and trying to mask his insecurities....and not living up to his full human potential...besides the fact he most definitely is part of the 98% who is not 'self-actualized' otherwise he would not abuse himself in such a mannner.
i'll admit, at most....poor form to discuss illegal drug use.....but yea...i think the man, like so many others.....is capable of making such choices for himself...and we all could aspire to live up to our potential to such a degree.
of course he's not scum...but obviouly he is maladaptive, and trying to mask his insecurities....and not living up to his full human potential...besides the fact he most definitely is part of the 98% who is not 'self-actualized' otherwise he would not abuse himself in such a mannner.
i'll admit, at most....poor form to discuss illegal drug use.....but yea...i think the man, like so many others.....is capable of making such choices for himself...and we all could aspire to live up to our potential to such a degree.
good point. clearly eddie is a weak-minded individual who cannot face his past malfunctions like the buddha did. he has a lot to learn before he can be a healthy human being. until then, he's just corrupting society and bringing it down with his bad example and influence.
ok so I feel like that old Gilda Radner character that use to come on and get all fired up about something she got wrong and then said, "never mind"
but I think I missed something here............
was that original quote about jailing drug users something that Eddie Vedder himself said? I think I missed the original thought here.
Baby, You Wouldn't Last a Minute on The Creek......
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
IS EDDIE SCUM?
SHOULD WE JAIL HIM TO SET AN EXAMPLE?
he's no better than anyone else. If he gets caught and prosecuted and convicted then he should serve the time (whatever that may be). But we shouldn't arrest him to set an example.
make sure the fortune that you seek...is the fortune that you need
Addiction, disease, rape, violence......nothing good comes from drugs. It and its people are filth.
and then, the grande finale comment rejecting the notion that anyone could simply be a recreational drug user ... the comment going on to insinuate that just about all drug users end up wasting away, killing their babies, or exacting untold numbers of misfortunes upon innocent other lives via their indiscriminate actions ...
man those quotes get me pissed!
Who the hell are these people?
Why is it ok to call drug users these kinds of names, but not other groups of people that choose to do things that are hazardous to their own health?
Skydivers are scum. People with tattoos are rapists. you have piercings? You're diseased. You drink alcohol or coffee? You're filth. Drive too fast? You are ignorant. Sit in front of a computer for fun? You're an addict.
FUCK!!!
It wouldn't be acceptable to publicly state these things, and the fact that a lot of people might not support those views, but they read them without reacting like they would to the other statements above, shows just how much damage has been caused by D.A.R.E, your brain on drugs, after school specials, et al. It is so stigmatized that normal people lose their compassion and empathy, and this is considered an acceptable way to behave to a large portion of the population.
That said, I would feel sad if
Eddie did enough drugs that made him a lost soul and wasted his art, a great gift that it is. A gift that he shared with us.
I think he already had the opportunity to ruin his life with drugs like Kurt Cobain, Layne Staley or Shannon Hoon and many others did. I think he chose not to let drugs ruin his life and he uses them responsibly and only recreationally (at least I think so).
I don't think the legality of drugs influenced his choice at all.
Mike McCready was even addicted to drugs twice (right?) and he cleaned up. Again, I don't think it was because drugs were illegal (he was addicted to alcohol, I believe, which is perfectly legal and totally ignored by the person who made these "scum" claims) but because he chose to, he chose to live.
In a way Eddie and Mike are already examples of how drugs can be used recreationally but how they can also lead to addiction and how addiction doesn't necessarily lead to death.
That being said, if you believe you'll get addicted to drugs by smoking a joint every fortnight you need to watch reefer madness again, once you toke it, you're trapped for life!
this thread is beyond pointless imho. I’ll kill you if you get ed locked up by the way. then I’ll break him out. no jokes. stop speculating what random chemical input have on someone like Ed whose making a massive difference "out there".
so fucking what if he wants to get lost sometimes? it's like chopping off someone’s hands for masturbating - it's beyond hypocrisy
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he's no better than anyone else. If he gets caught and prosecuted and convicted then he should serve the time (whatever that may be). But we shouldn't arrest him to set an example.
Yep, you're right... WE shouldn't
lol, I just have an image of the moving train police... 'sorry Mr. Vedder but it has been brought to our attention that you have recently admitted to consuming illegal substances. We feel it is our duty as the moral police to lock you up FOREVER... oh and could you please sign these handcuffs and pose for a picture thank you'
The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
lol, I just have an image of the moving train police... 'sorry Mr. Vedder but it has been brought to our attention that you have recently admitted to consuming illegal substances. We feel it is our duty as the moral police to lock you up FOREVER... oh and could you please sign these handcuffs and pose for a picture thank you'
i can't wait to see the stuff on "the smoking gun" if that happened If it happens i hope they put him in a cell with a recording studio and part of his punishment is one new PJ album a year... i don't think that's too much to ask
make sure the fortune that you seek...is the fortune that you need
i can't wait to see the stuff on "the smoking gun" if that happened If it happens i hope they put him in a cell with a recording studio and part of his punishment is one new PJ album a year... i don't think that's too much to ask
Nope, I want sweat shop releases... at LEAST one album a week
The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
hey dude you heard wrong about drug adicts...they are not all scum, they are people like you and me who have had the misfortune of being in that situation.
I don't really care what he does, but if it effes him up so bad that his performance suffers, I'm going to feel a little cheated. Along the same lines, if you're going to get effed up, don't announce it - that's a tad juvenile.
I think he already had the opportunity to ruin his life with drugs like Kurt Cobain, Layne Staley or Shannon Hoon and many others did. I think he chose not to let drugs ruin his life and he uses them responsibly and only recreationally (at least I think so).
I don't think the legality of drugs influenced his choice at all.
Mike McCready was even addicted to drugs twice (right?) and he cleaned up. Again, I don't think it was because drugs were illegal (he was addicted to alcohol, I believe, which is perfectly legal and totally ignored by the person who made these "scum" claims) but because he chose to, he chose to live.
In a way Eddie and Mike are already examples of how drugs can be used recreationally but how they can also lead to addiction and how addiction doesn't necessarily lead to death.
That being said, if you believe you'll get addicted to drugs by smoking a joint every fortnight you need to watch reefer madness again, once you toke it, you're trapped for life!
Wow, can we all get caught up here........eh?
I don't think that just because you party you are an addict or a person who has no other things going on in thieir life that are important to them or that drugs consume them.........c'mon you'd have to be so closed minded to think that.
I have spent a lot of my life altered and it was mixed. sometimes it was because of me partying sometimes it was because I wanted to have a party to escape other things. Just like having a drink doesn't make you an alcoholic, partying doesn't make you a drug addict and my comment about Eddie didn't insinuate that I thought that at all. I just meant that we all admire his work and if he would reach a sad place in his life that made him bottom out, that would be a loss, that's all. I think we would agree with that.
I have tatoos, and I have a lot of ideas that are both conservsative and others are radical. These thoughts have come from living my life and then deciding how I feel in regard to certain things. But these truths are mine; not anyone else's, nor do I try to make them someone else's.
You know, I just wrote a piece that came into a local Chicago newspaper on another hot subject that I won't get into here....it's loaded enough on these pages presently. But the bottom line was that true ignorance on any subject comes from people not thinking throroughly about what they are saying they believe. It also comes from people joining with groups of liberals or conservatives and then copping their opinion not forming their own. In order to truly make a statement based on your beliefs, you need to form your own after you think. THINKING is the bottom line...most people find it too much trouble. Those are the people who reference others as "scum": without even knowing them..........
Baby, You Wouldn't Last a Minute on The Creek......
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
Someone on here was quoted as calling drug users "scum"
and saying that if the war on drugs convinces even just one kid not to do drugs, then it was worth it.
same with throwing "your" ass in jail (assuming you do drugs) ... if it convinces just one kid to stay off them, it is worth it.
along with the "scum" comment we were also treated to this beauty:
and then, the grande finale comment rejecting the notion that anyone could simply be a recreational drug user ... the comment going on to insinuate that just about all drug users end up wasting away, killing their babies, or exacting untold numbers of misfortunes upon innocent other lives via their indiscriminate actions ...
anyway, it's not like this is a big shock to anyone
The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
good point. clearly eddie is a weak-minded individual who cannot face his past malfunctions like the buddha did. he has a lot to learn before he can be a healthy human being. until then, he's just corrupting society and bringing it down with his bad example and influence.
I've heard that all drug users are scum, and a waste.
That they are a burden to society, and that they should be thrown in jail as an example.
A rock-mega-star such as Eddie would make a GREAT EXAMPLE.
I mean, that should keep, what, like 10 million kids off drugs?
And,
i've also heard that "no good" can come of recreational drug use ... and yet eddie mentions during Rock Werchter in Belgium that he was wasted because of a "pill" that Josh had given him earlier.
Seems that some people in pretty "high" places think that recreational drug use can serve certain artistic merits.
But i just want to know,
because Eddie has incriminated himself on numerous occasions admitting to drug use in the past. He insinuates it presently as well.
IS EDDIE SCUM?
SHOULD WE JAIL HIM TO SET AN EXAMPLE?
No he's not scum and no he should not be jailed. I use some things for creative purposes. When I drink wine and get drunk I can write a great song or poem. Same thing with pot,acid.
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yup yup... i agree with this
I loved this clip and also watched the clip of the same song done in Hawaii.
As in my profile, I'm not too young and have seen a lot of wasted people in my time and Eddie doesn't appear to be beyond comprehension or ability to perform.
I don't get it; who is this guy who started this thread????
A fed??
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
There's a person who posts here who believes drug users are by default drug abusers and losers and scum. I think the thread starter wanted to show that's a rather ignorant view of drug users.
I could be wrong, however.
And Kings of Leon are great!
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well, let's open up this a bit............
i was a hippy, in the 80's when they called us "freaks".......(there were jocks, freaks, greasers........jocks got drunk and dated cheerleaders, later on got fat and bald and greasers wore weird clothes called freaks "drug addicts" and later on sold coke...so much for their anti drug stance and most of the freaks, grew up, got real lifes and outgrew drugs)
I think that is the real thing about drugs. Do they interfere with your life? Some people think that drug use should be legal, feeling that the hardcore drug users could just od and be done with it. That said, I would feel sad if
Eddie did enough drugs that made him a lost soul and wasted his art, a great gift that it is. A gift that he shared with us.
But is it a crime? No, not a legal crime but a crime that would be one if it messed up your life, marriage or kids' lives. That said, we should mind our own business, worry more about the weird, pedifile type druggies, who for some sick reason, target kids to get them into drugs (but I gotta wonder...do people really give out drugs for free????) and worry less about the stars that we like, and enjoy their work. period...........
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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i'll admit, at most....poor form to discuss illegal drug use.....but yea...i think the man, like so many others.....is capable of making such choices for himself...and we all could aspire to live up to our potential to such a degree.
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
good point. clearly eddie is a weak-minded individual who cannot face his past malfunctions like the buddha did. he has a lot to learn before he can be a healthy human being. until then, he's just corrupting society and bringing it down with his bad example and influence.
smoked a joint in a tree...
and still jonesing for another show....
"the waiting drove me mad..."
but I think I missed something here............
was that original quote about jailing drug users something that Eddie Vedder himself said? I think I missed the original thought here.
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
he's no better than anyone else. If he gets caught and prosecuted and convicted then he should serve the time (whatever that may be). But we shouldn't arrest him to set an example.
Someone on here was quoted as calling drug users "scum"
and saying that if the war on drugs convinces even just one kid not to do drugs, then it was worth it.
same with throwing "your" ass in jail (assuming you do drugs) ... if it convinces just one kid to stay off them, it is worth it.
along with the "scum" comment we were also treated to this beauty:
and then, the grande finale comment rejecting the notion that anyone could simply be a recreational drug user ... the comment going on to insinuate that just about all drug users end up wasting away, killing their babies, or exacting untold numbers of misfortunes upon innocent other lives via their indiscriminate actions ...
This whole thread is a mock reaction to that.
Sorry for the confusion.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Who the hell are these people?
Why is it ok to call drug users these kinds of names, but not other groups of people that choose to do things that are hazardous to their own health?
Skydivers are scum. People with tattoos are rapists. you have piercings? You're diseased. You drink alcohol or coffee? You're filth. Drive too fast? You are ignorant. Sit in front of a computer for fun? You're an addict.
FUCK!!!
It wouldn't be acceptable to publicly state these things, and the fact that a lot of people might not support those views, but they read them without reacting like they would to the other statements above, shows just how much damage has been caused by D.A.R.E, your brain on drugs, after school specials, et al. It is so stigmatized that normal people lose their compassion and empathy, and this is considered an acceptable way to behave to a large portion of the population.
I think he already had the opportunity to ruin his life with drugs like Kurt Cobain, Layne Staley or Shannon Hoon and many others did. I think he chose not to let drugs ruin his life and he uses them responsibly and only recreationally (at least I think so).
I don't think the legality of drugs influenced his choice at all.
Mike McCready was even addicted to drugs twice (right?) and he cleaned up. Again, I don't think it was because drugs were illegal (he was addicted to alcohol, I believe, which is perfectly legal and totally ignored by the person who made these "scum" claims) but because he chose to, he chose to live.
In a way Eddie and Mike are already examples of how drugs can be used recreationally but how they can also lead to addiction and how addiction doesn't necessarily lead to death.
That being said, if you believe you'll get addicted to drugs by smoking a joint every fortnight you need to watch reefer madness again, once you toke it, you're trapped for life!
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so fucking what if he wants to get lost sometimes? it's like chopping off someone’s hands for masturbating - it's beyond hypocrisy
"Call me Ishmael. Some years ago- never mind how long precisely- having little or no money in my purse, and nothing particular to interest me on shore, I thought I would sail about a little and see the watery part of the world." Herman Melville : Moby Dick
lol, I just have an image of the moving train police... 'sorry Mr. Vedder but it has been brought to our attention that you have recently admitted to consuming illegal substances. We feel it is our duty as the moral police to lock you up FOREVER... oh and could you please sign these handcuffs and pose for a picture
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
i can't wait to see the stuff on "the smoking gun" if that happened
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
well I'll make the anonymous tip call; and we'll get ready to enjoy some music:)
Wow, can we all get caught up here........eh?
I don't think that just because you party you are an addict or a person who has no other things going on in thieir life that are important to them or that drugs consume them.........c'mon you'd have to be so closed minded to think that.
I have spent a lot of my life altered and it was mixed. sometimes it was because of me partying sometimes it was because I wanted to have a party to escape other things. Just like having a drink doesn't make you an alcoholic, partying doesn't make you a drug addict and my comment about Eddie didn't insinuate that I thought that at all. I just meant that we all admire his work and if he would reach a sad place in his life that made him bottom out, that would be a loss, that's all. I think we would agree with that.
I have tatoos, and I have a lot of ideas that are both conservsative and others are radical. These thoughts have come from living my life and then deciding how I feel in regard to certain things. But these truths are mine; not anyone else's, nor do I try to make them someone else's.
You know, I just wrote a piece that came into a local Chicago newspaper on another hot subject that I won't get into here....it's loaded enough on these pages presently. But the bottom line was that true ignorance on any subject comes from people not thinking throroughly about what they are saying they believe. It also comes from people joining with groups of liberals or conservatives and then copping their opinion not forming their own. In order to truly make a statement based on your beliefs, you need to form your own after you think. THINKING is the bottom line...most people find it too much trouble. Those are the people who reference others as "scum": without even knowing them..........
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
your kidding right? :rolleyes:
evidently you've not been tuned in to the mj legalization debate elsewhere...or yea...you'd *get* the humor.
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
No he's not scum and no he should not be jailed. I use some things for creative purposes. When I drink wine and get drunk I can write a great song or poem. Same thing with pot,acid.