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  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    onelongsong wrote:
    let me help you. i never said polygamy was legal anywhere. that was someone else.
    http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=211308&page=7
    Right there at the top of the page.
    i argued that polygamists were wanting equal rights, if gays were allowed to marry. you fought tooth and nail so i posted 3 links; one being a news story from the N. Y. times which went on to say some hbo series about a poligamist threesome opened the door to polygamy and basically proved my point. i them PMed the link to you. it was the only PM i've ever sent you.
    does that help your memory?
    I invite anyone who is interested to read that thread and determine for themselves if you "proved me wrong."
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
  • Uncle Leo
    Uncle Leo Posts: 1,059
    blackredyellow wrote:
    what a joke... oh no... someone said an off-the-cuff, comment about being embarrassed to be from the same state as the president... let's burn all of their cd's and tell our children to burn all theirs! A family that hates together, stays together!


    It was pathetic. People really need to put into perspective the truly bad things that people say/do.

    I don't remember when that was exactly, but I think it was when it was still at the "criticize Bush at your own risk" period when he was immensely popular and everyone was scared to badmouth him. I bet if this happened today instead that you'd have about a tenth of the reaction that you had. I wonder if a lot of the people that loved him back then look back with shame as to how they let Bushmania sweep them away just because he happened to be president on 9/11.
    I cannot come up with a new sig till I get this egg off my face.
  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    onelongsong wrote:
    it's the symbolism of the machine gun and the subserviency of getting on their knees to suck it that is the message.
    Oh, I get it .... Ted doesn't want to kill the guy, he's just into men on their knees, subservient and sucking. I didn't know he went that way!
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
  • SPEEDY MCCREADY
    SPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 26,859
    hippiemom wrote:
    Oh, I get it .... Ted doesn't want to kill the guy, he's just into men on their knees, subservient and sucking. I didn't know he went that way!
    hehehehehehe..............................
    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
  • Collin
    Collin Posts: 4,931
    hippiemom wrote:
    Time allows you to search their archives all the way back to 1923. I tried "kerry shrine north vietnam" and got nothing. Maybe you'll have better luck:

    http://www.time.com/time/searchresults?N=0&Ntk=NoBody&Nty=1&Nr=OR%28p_record_type%3AArticle%2Cp_record_type%3Ablog%2Cp_record_type%3AOther%29&Ntt=&btnSearch.x=14&btnSearch.y=14&btnSearch=Search

    I already tried. I even tried it without "North Vietnam", nothing.

    This reminds me of a scene from Family Guy:

    "Peter: I'll handle it, Lois. I read a book about this sort of thing once.
    Brian: Are you sure it was a book? Are you sure it wasn't nothing?
    Peter: Oh yeah."
    THANK YOU, LOSTDAWG!


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  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    hippiemom wrote:
    I've looked, but I'm having trouble finding anything on this. Perhaps you could link us with an article, or a picture of this "shrine."

    It's not even worth arguing with him when he makes claims like this... keep him around long enough in a political thread and eventually he'll repeat his claim that Saddam paid money to the 9/11 hijackers, and that Clinton did absolutely nothing after the first WTC bombing...
    My whole life
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  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    blackredyellow wrote:
    what a joke... oh no... someone said an off-the-cuff, comment about being embarrassed to be from the same state as the president... let's burn all of their cd's and tell our children to burn all theirs! A family that hates together, stays together!

    actually i just don't like the dixie chicks.
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    hippiemom wrote:
    http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=211308&page=7
    Right there at the top of the page.


    I invite anyone who is interested to read that thread and determine for themselves if you "proved me wrong."
    ...
    I hunted and hunted... I believe this is the "Fact" regarding the existance of this shrine:
    "Vietnam opens secret bunker under shrine"
    The Associated Press ^ | Oct. 28, 2004 | Margie Mason

    Posted on 10/28/2004 11:17:16 AM PDT by Dubya

    HANOI, Vietnam - Behind thick concrete walls and iron doors, Ho Chi Minh and other top North Vietnamese leaders hid out in secret underground tunnels during U.S. B-52 bombing raids and plotted key military strategies that led to the United States' defeat in the Vietnam War.

    For the first time, Hanoi has opened the bunker used by the late president, his military leader, Gen. Vo Nguyen Giap, and others. It's in the same building where the 1968 Tet Offensive and the final assault on Saigon in 1975 were planned from about 30 feet below the surface.

    But the site's history goes far deeper than that.

    Visitors are also being given a rare, firsthand glimpse of nearly 1,000 years of Vietnamese history through tours of the site of the Kinh Thien shrine, which dates to the 11th century.

    The area includes two large stone dragons, made in the 15th century during the Le Dynasty, that extend up nine stairs -- all that remain of the shrine that was once part of the imperial forbidden city, off-limits to everyone but royalty. It was rebuilt three times during different dynasties.

    When the French invaded Vietnam in the late 19th century, they destroyed everything but the stairs and gate, and constructed a two-story building to house an artillery headquarters, which was taken over by the North Vietnamese after they defeated the French colonialists in 1954.

    The communist military, with help from the Soviets, built its headquarters there in 1967. It housed the elaborate tunnel system, including the underground bunker, which has narrow submarine-style corridors and vaulted metal doors leading into two larger rooms. During U.S. bombing raids, Politburo members and top military brass took cover there and held meetings."
    ...
    The tie into John Kerry comes from this response to the original message from a board member:
    "To: Dubya
    key military strategies that led to the United States' defeat in the Vietnam War

    Don't mean to take any wind out of the commie's sails, but Vietnam wasn't lost in the battelfield strategies of Vietnam, it was lost in the U.S., courtesy of John Kerry.

    2 posted on 10/28/2004 11:20:12 AM PDT by babyface00"
    ...
    Okay... so some random Joe makes a joke about John Kerry and a military bunker built under a (Religious) Shrine in North Vietnam and it becomes a Fact that Vietnam built a Shrine To John Kerry... IN 1967!!!

    Reference: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1260296/posts
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  • Collin
    Collin Posts: 4,931
    Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    I hunted and hunted... I believe this is the "Fact" regarding the existance of this shrine:
    "Vietnam opens secret bunker under shrine"
    The Associated Press ^ | Oct. 28, 2004 | Margie Mason

    Posted on 10/28/2004 11:17:16 AM PDT by Dubya

    HANOI, Vietnam - Behind thick concrete walls and iron doors, Ho Chi Minh and other top North Vietnamese leaders hid out in secret underground tunnels during U.S. B-52 bombing raids and plotted key military strategies that led to the United States' defeat in the Vietnam War.

    For the first time, Hanoi has opened the bunker used by the late president, his military leader, Gen. Vo Nguyen Giap, and others. It's in the same building where the 1968 Tet Offensive and the final assault on Saigon in 1975 were planned from about 30 feet below the surface.

    But the site's history goes far deeper than that.

    Visitors are also being given a rare, firsthand glimpse of nearly 1,000 years of Vietnamese history through tours of the site of the Kinh Thien shrine, which dates to the 11th century.

    The area includes two large stone dragons, made in the 15th century during the Le Dynasty, that extend up nine stairs -- all that remain of the shrine that was once part of the imperial forbidden city, off-limits to everyone but royalty. It was rebuilt three times during different dynasties.

    When the French invaded Vietnam in the late 19th century, they destroyed everything but the stairs and gate, and constructed a two-story building to house an artillery headquarters, which was taken over by the North Vietnamese after they defeated the French colonialists in 1954.

    The communist military, with help from the Soviets, built its headquarters there in 1967. It housed the elaborate tunnel system, including the underground bunker, which has narrow submarine-style corridors and vaulted metal doors leading into two larger rooms. During U.S. bombing raids, Politburo members and top military brass took cover there and held meetings."
    ...
    The tie into John Kerry comes from this response to the original message from a board member:
    "To: Dubya
    key military strategies that led to the United States' defeat in the Vietnam War

    Don't mean to take any wind out of the commie's sails, but Vietnam wasn't lost in the battelfield strategies of Vietnam, it was lost in the U.S., courtesy of John Kerry.

    2 posted on 10/28/2004 11:20:12 AM PDT by babyface00"
    ...
    Okay... so some random Joe makes a joke about John Kerry and a military bunker built under a (Religious) Shrine in North Vietnam and it becomes a Fact that Vietnam built a Shrine To John Kerry... IN 1967!!!

    Reference: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1260296/posts

    You must have search really really hard to find that. I even searched the archive of the Onion!
    THANK YOU, LOSTDAWG!


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