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  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    I read somewhere this weekend that the investigators are looking at the wheat source which apparently is someplace in China. The theory is that the wheat was exposed there to a common agricultural rat poison/repellant.

    Unfortunately, I also discovered that this recall slightly affected the provider of the food I give to my dogs. Apparently, Purina cheaped out somewhere and started purchasing pouch food from this Menu Foods joint. That means I have to find a new dry food supplier, or face the very annoying prospect of making it myself......does anyone here make their own dry dog food?
    Damn ... my dog eats a Purina brand food too :(

    There's no way I'm making it myself ... I wouldn't be able to stand the smell of all that meat cooking in the house *insert green face here*

    I guess it's time to suck up the extra cost and start switching him over to organic dog food.
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
  • hippiemom wrote:
    Damn ... my dog eats a Purina brand food too :(

    There's no way I'm making it myself ... I wouldn't be able to stand the smell of all that meat cooking in the house *insert green face here*

    I guess it's time to suck up the extra cost and start switching him over to organic dog food.

    The only Purina product affected was the Mighty Dog pouch food, so if you're feeding them standard Purina dry food or Pro Plan dry food, don't worry too much. That said, I wrote a very testy letter to them yesterday informing them that I had no confidence left in any of their products and that I'll be taking my business elsewhere.

    Be careful with the "organic" products. They often misrepresent themselves in a lot of ways, and so-called "designer" foods can be even worse for the dogs than the regular stuff. Check with your vet before switching them over.

    I typically boil the meat I give to the dogs now. Stinks less, is healthier, and the dogs really aren't very picky about it. I wouldn't eat it if you paid me, but they don't seem to mind ;)
  • baraka
    baraka Posts: 1,268
    The only Purina product affected was the Mighty Dog pouch food, so if you're feeding them standard Purina dry food or Pro Plan dry food, don't worry too much. That said, I wrote a very testy letter to them yesterday informing them that I had no confidence left in any of their products and that I'll be taking my business elsewhere.

    Don't be surprised when large companies out-source to save money. Seems to be a common practice today to compete.
    The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance,
    but the illusion of knowledge.
    ~Daniel Boorstin

    Only a life lived for others is worth living.
    ~Albert Einstein
  • baraka wrote:
    Don't be surprised when large companies out-source to save money. Seems to be a common practice today to compete.

    Hehe...I'm certainly not surprised. Purina has every right to out-source to save money, just like I have every right to "out-source" my business elsewhere.

    http://www.theatlasphere.com/columns/070313-machan-haircut.php
  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    The only Purina product affected was the Mighty Dog pouch food, so if you're feeding them standard Purina dry food or Pro Plan dry food, don't worry too much. That said, I wrote a very testy letter to them yesterday informing them that I had no confidence left in any of their products and that I'll be taking my business elsewhere.

    Be careful with the "organic" products. They often misrepresent themselves in a lot of ways, and so-called "designer" foods can be even worse for the dogs than the regular stuff. Check with your vet before switching them over.

    I typically boil the meat I give to the dogs now. Stinks less, is healthier, and the dogs really aren't very picky about it. I wouldn't eat it if you paid me, but they don't seem to mind ;)
    My dog is not exactly what you'd call a finicky eater, hahaha. He'll pretty much eat anything that doesn't eat him first.

    I don't give him any pouch food, so I doubt I have anything to worry about, but now I don't particularly feel like giving money to a company that does business this way, especially since I already try to avoid any product that comes from China (although I think that's impossible to do entirely). I'm going to talk to the vet about organic, domestically made products.
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
  • baraka
    baraka Posts: 1,268
    Hehe...I'm certainly not surprised. Purina has every right to out-source to save money, just like I have every right to "out-source" my business elsewhere.

    http://www.theatlasphere.com/columns/070313-machan-haircut.php

    Cute, ffg. Making your own dog food is one thing, but leave the hair cuts to the experts. I just pictured you with a really bad self-inflicted flat-top ha ha :D
    The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance,
    but the illusion of knowledge.
    ~Daniel Boorstin

    Only a life lived for others is worth living.
    ~Albert Einstein
  • hippiemom wrote:
    My dog is not exactly what you'd call a finicky eater, hahaha. He'll pretty much eat anything that doesn't eat him first.

    I don't give him any pouch food, so I doubt I have anything to worry about, but now I don't particularly feel like giving money to a company that does business this way, especially since I already try to avoid any product that comes from China (although I think that's impossible to do entirely). I'm going to talk to the vet about organic, domestically made products.

    You might try checking out foods made by Natura. I've heard great things about their foods, specifically the Innova line. I think they're both organic and domestically produced. It isn't cheap though.

    I wanted to switch my dogs to this stuff a couple of years ago, but there was nowhere around here that sold it. I'm going to check back into this now though.
  • baraka wrote:
    Cute, ffg. Making your own dog food is one thing, but leave the hair cuts to the experts. I just pictured you with a really bad self-inflicted flat-top ha ha :D

    Hehe...I haven't even had a haircut in about 6 months. I'm going to have to do something about that.
  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    baraka wrote:
    Cute, ffg. Making your own dog food is one thing, but leave the hair cuts to the experts. I just pictured you with a really bad self-inflicted flat-top ha ha :D
    Uh-oh............I had to interrupt my self-imposed posting ban to say....hahahahhahahahahahahaaahahahahaaahahahaha! :D
    "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr

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    Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
  • baraka
    baraka Posts: 1,268
    angelica wrote:
    Uh-oh............I had to interrupt my self-imposed posting ban to say....hahahahhahahahahahahaaahahahahaaahahahaha! :D

    Yay, angelica! Glad to bring you out of hiding!
    The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance,
    but the illusion of knowledge.
    ~Daniel Boorstin

    Only a life lived for others is worth living.
    ~Albert Einstein
  • This must be the "girl-talk" I've heard so much about :D

    Just to spite you all, I'm going to give myself a self-imposed mohawk.
  • baraka
    baraka Posts: 1,268
    This must be the "girl-talk" I've heard so much about :D

    Just to spite you all, I'm going to give myself a self-imposed mohawk.

    Do it! You work for yourself, so why not. I'd be mighty impressed!
    The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance,
    but the illusion of knowledge.
    ~Daniel Boorstin

    Only a life lived for others is worth living.
    ~Albert Einstein
  • baraka wrote:
    Do it! You work for yourself, so why not. I'd be mighty impressed!

    I'm all talk. I'd chicken out at the last minute. Plus, my mom would cry. She already hates that I have hair down to my shoulders right now. The mohawk would just finish her off.
  • baraka
    baraka Posts: 1,268
    I'm all talk. I'd chicken out at the last minute. Plus, my mom would cry. She already hates that I have hair down to my shoulders right now. The mohawk would just finish her off.


    Ah, you don't want to disappoint mom. It will always grow back, you know. I'm guessing you don't have any tats or strange piercings either.

    Hair down to the shoulder, eh? I'm not sure I believe you. ;)
    The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance,
    but the illusion of knowledge.
    ~Daniel Boorstin

    Only a life lived for others is worth living.
    ~Albert Einstein
  • baraka wrote:
    Ah, you don't want to disappoint mom. It will always grow back, you know. I'm guessing you don't have any tats or strange piercings either.

    Hair down to the shoulder, eh? I'm not sure I believe you. ;)

    There you girls go again, fishing for photos. You and agelica are such sleazeballs.

    Stop objectifying me!!!!!

    EDIT: :D (in case the humor wasn't clear)
  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    There you girls go again, fishing for photos. You and agelica are such sleazeballs.

    Stop objectifying me!!!!!

    EDIT: :D (in case the humor wasn't clear)
    I was just about to say, there was no hair to the shoulders in the pics I saw! I was sort of stunned, though, by how much you look exactly as I'd pictured you.

    Does this make me a sleazeball too?

    And thanks, I'm going to call around later today and see if anyone near here sells Natura products :)
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
  • hippiemom wrote:
    I was just about to say, there was no hair to the shoulders in the pics I saw! I was sort of stunned, though, by how much you look exactly as I'd pictured you.

    Does this make me a sleazeball too?

    Man, those pictures really got around, didn't they? Hehe...and no, you're not a sleazeball. Neither are angelica or baraka. They're just typical guys. Oh wait.... ;)
    And thanks, I'm going to call around later today and see if anyone near here sells Natura products :)

    Cool. By the way, here's the letter I sent to Purina. If you or anyone else wants to borrow it, feel free:

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    To whom it may concern,

    I have been a loyal Purina customer for many years now and have fed my dogs your Pro Plan foods since they were puppies. I had always been pleased with your products and felt confident that I was feeding my dogs quality meals.

    I was saddened to discover that Purina was affected by the recent recall of Menu Foods' products. It was very disheartening to discover that the provider of my dogs’ dry food was involved in selling products that presented a serious health risk to millions of pets. Despite the fact that the products I purchase from you were unaffected by this recall, I can no longer in good conscience buy food products from you.

    I am in the process of selecting a new diet for my dogs and will not entertain any Purina products in my search. However, I certainly hope you will take steps to regain the confidence of consumers such as myself so that I might one day consider you again as a food provider. In order to regain my trust, I’d recommend the following actions:

    1. Sever all ties with Menu Foods.
    2. Launch a new line of foods that are certified as domestically sourced using only high-grade meats and vegetables without any glutens.
    3. Establish and publish an extensive review process for ensuring that all foods you sell are safe.
    4. Publish more detailed information about the contents and sources of all your products.
    5. Resist government regulation of pet food production by demonstrating that you are able to regulate yourself as a responsible organization committed to the best interests of your own business by ensuring the health and safety of your clients’ pets.

    I hope to one day return to Purina products. If your organization takes the steps detailed above, I will gladly purchase your products again.

    Sincerely,

    -Jeff XXXXXX
    XXX XXXXXXXX
    Chapel Hill, NC
  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    Man, those pictures really got around, didn't they? Hehe...and no, you're not a sleazeball. Neither are angelica or baraka. They're just typical guys. Oh wait.... ;)
    Hopefully you recall the conversation wherein you told me I could show those pics to anyone I wanted, since according to you, they were some random guy on the internet. I even prefaced sending hippiemom the pics (along with surferdudes! ;) ) by telling her that you told me that! I held onto those pics for an entire year without showing anyone until I got your permission!

    As for "objectifying you", while you were publicly calling us sleazeballs unbeknownst to me, I was sending you a pm where I said about 4 super nice things about you, as a person and that happen to have no relationship to your appearance! So there! :p
    "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr

    http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta

    Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
  • angelica wrote:
    Hopefully you recall the conversation wherein you told me I could show those pics to anyone I wanted, since according to you, they were some random guy on the internet. I even prefaced sending hippiemom the pics (along with surferdudes! ;) ) by telling her that you told me that! I held onto those pics for an entire year without showing anyone until I got your permission!

    I did give you permission, didn't I? Damn you and your legalese....
    As for "objectifying you", while you were publicly calling us sleazeballs unbeknownst to me, I was sending you a pm where I said about 4 super nice things about you, as a person and that happen to have no relationship to your appearance! So there! :p

    *Shamed*
  • baraka
    baraka Posts: 1,268
    hippiemom wrote:
    I was just about to say, there was no hair to the shoulders in the pics I saw! I was sort of stunned, though, by how much you look exactly as I'd pictured you.

    That's funny, because he didn't look anything at all what I expected.
    The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance,
    but the illusion of knowledge.
    ~Daniel Boorstin

    Only a life lived for others is worth living.
    ~Albert Einstein