United States vs Europe

Jeanie · July 2007

This thread makes me sad.

Really, really sad.

RolandTD20Kdrummer · July 2007

Jeanie wrote:

This thread makes me sad.

Really, really sad.

Why sad? Don't be sad Jeanie.

Bu2 · July 2007

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070703/wl_nm/usa_iraq_contractors_dc

For some.

RolandTD20Kdrummer · July 2007

Ahnimus wrote:

I'm not sure I trust that graph. But even so, the issue I take with the posted image, is the suggestion that McDonald's or diet in general is the primary cause of obesity. It may very well be stress-related, or it could be genetic. Much obesity is attributable to diet and exercise, but not all.

A girl I am seeing for example, I hope she doesn't read this, she is kind of chunky, which surprises me, because she plays sports like 3 times a week and goes to the gym atleast a couple times a week. She eats pretty healthy, except when she's around me. Then her mom is quite large, so I think its largely genetic for her. She isn't like really big, but I doubt she could do more than she is to slim down.

I liked the study they did about putting the mice in cold water, and in the presence of alpha males to trigger stress hormones. I believe when certain conditions are triggered, the body hoards the nutritive values of food purely as storage for survival purposes. That's my take anyways. I owe a certain portion of my stress free existence today to Angelica who has actually helped me see myself in a different light. Funny how circumstances and people connect and the infinite
reasons therein.

So important de-stress. I was so stressed out (unknowingly) originally that when I discovered deep diaphragm breathing it made me giggle uncontrollably. All children belly breathe. Most adults seem to chest breathe. Sometimes it's the simple things that open the pathway and lead to the next stage. It all begins with self.

I really should grow my hair go tie dyed and be a 100% certified hippie...lol

Bu2 · July 2007

were trained to belly breathe, not chest breathe.

And it works wonders for COPD and emphysema patients, as well.

And Angelica is cool, in my book.

Now, back to politics....

Jeanie · July 2007

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Why sad? Don't be sad Jeanie.

Because I don't really find this funny. I'm probably over sensitive.

I just prefer that people take others as they find them.

My grandmother who suffered with obesity all her life and was constantly on diets and always exercised and ate well (I mean McDonald's and other junk food never passed her lips. She ate good food in healthy portions), she taught me that you can never judge a book by it's cover. And all I know is that she spent her whole life working hard and earning money, running a household, raising 5 children, and also caring for a physically and intellectually disabled daughter, a husband that died of cancer, a son that died of cancer and she raised me and looked after all of my family. She found time to protest the Vietnam war, help Landcare, run a hospital kitchen, a clean household, a farm. She shared a love of books and music and politics with her family and friends. She sacrificied so many things for others and she had a really hard life, but she never complained. And it makes me sad that to this day some people still describe her as a "big woman" when they speak about here. People often treated her like she was stupid when she was incredibly smart and funny and business savvy. But she was often discriminated against and dismissed as lazy and stupid because of her body. I find it very sad that for some people the sum total of her being, the sum total of her whole life is measured by the whether or not she was in an "acceptable" weight range. That all the things she was can be dismissed because of how she looked. She was an amazing human being who struggled with her weight her whole life and only wanted accepted for who she was and she lived "obese" her whole life give or take the yoyo dieting and she lived to the ripe old age of 89 and it was lymphoma that killed her in the end.

I'm sad because there is an obesity epidemic and that means that probably millions of people around the world are currently now suffering a plethora of health problems because of it and many of them are probably somebody you know, somebody you love. I guess it makes me sad, really, really sad that along with the epidemic has come all the nasty comments and judgements and dismissiveness. It makes me sad that it's still ok to make comments and be horrible to fat kids and fat adults simply because they are having a problem. A problem that I cannot judge because I do not know them individually and I haven't walked in their shoes. Oh I'm waffling on I know.
But obesity makes me sad and the attitudes of some people when it comes to obesity make me sadder. That's why I'm sad. It all makes me really, really sad.

RolandTD20Kdrummer · July 2007

Bu2 wrote:

were trained to belly breathe, not chest breathe.

And it works wonders for COPD and emphysema patients, as well.

And Angelica is cool, in my book.

Now, back to politics....

I was fortunately blessed with the ability of a fantastic imagination with my eyes closed (meditating), and I'm left handed, and right brained. So I guess I was born with the excellent ability to chill out when necessary. Funny...the left brain stuff pays the bills but the right brain stuff makes me most happy.

hmm...where to draw the line? A personal thesis in progress.

Jeanie · July 2007

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

I owe a certain portion of my stress free existence today to Angelica who has actually helped me see myself in a different light. Funny how circumstances and people connect and the infinite
reasons therein.

angelica is an amazing human being.

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

So important de-stress. I was so stressed out (unknowingly) originally that when I discovered deep diaphragm breathing it made me giggle uncontrollably. All children belly breathe. Most adults seem to chest breathe. Sometimes it's the simple things that open the pathway and lead to the next stage. It all begins with self.

I really should grow my hair go tie dyed and be a 100% certified hippie...lol

That's why singing is so good for the immune system and general well being. Using the diaphragm to breathe whilst singing is said to release endorphins and other feel good hormones in the body. Not to mention the added benefit of oxygenating the blood.

You should trot out your hairbrush Roland and belt out a few tunes!

A tie dyed, long haired, 100% certified hippy singing happily into his hairbrush!! I'd love to see that!

RolandTD20Kdrummer · July 2007

Jeanie wrote:

Because I don't really find this funny. I'm probably over sensitive.

I just prefer that people take others as they find them.

My grandmother who suffered with obesity all her life and was constantly on diets and always exercised and ate well (I mean McDonald's and other junk food never passed her lips. She ate good food in healthy portions), she taught me that you can never judge a book by it's cover. And all I know is that she spent her whole life working hard and earning money, running a household, raising 5 children, and also caring for a physically and intellectually disabled daughter, a husband that died of cancer, a son that died of cancer and she raised me and looked after all of my family. She found time to protest the Vietnam war, help Landcare, run a hospital kitchen, a clean household, a farm. She shared a love of books and music and politics with her family and friends. She sacrificied so many things for others and she had a really hard life, but she never complained. And it makes me sad that to this day some people still describe her as a "big woman" when they speak about here. People often treated her like she was stupid when she was incredibly smart and funny and business savvy. But she was often discriminated against and dismissed as lazy and stupid because of her body. I find it very sad that for some people the sum total of her being, the sum total of her whole life is measured by the whether or not she was in an "acceptable" weight range. That all the things she was can be dismissed because of how she looked. She was an amazing human being who struggled with her weight her whole life and only wanted accepted for who she was and she lived "obese" her whole life give or take the yoyo dieting and she lived to the ripe old age of 89 and it was lymphoma that killed her in the end.

I'm sad because there is an obesity epidemic and that means that probably millions of people around the world are currently now suffering a plethora of health problems because of it and many of them are probably somebody you know, somebody you love. I guess it makes me sad, really, really sad that along with the epidemic has come all the nasty comments and judgements and dismissiveness. It makes me sad that it's still ok to make comments and be horrible to fat kids and fat adults simply because they are having a problem. A problem that I cannot judge because I do not know them individually and I haven't walked in their shoes. Oh I'm waffling on I know.
But obesity makes me sad and the attitudes of some people when it comes to obesity make me sadder. That's why I'm sad. It all makes me really, really sad.

Seeing as you are essentially describing my mother in a nutshell (minus 3 children), I hear what you are saying and I agree with you.

Jeanie · July 2007

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Seeing as you are essentially describing my mother in a nutshell (minus 3 children), I hear what you are saying and I agree with you.

Well your Mum sounds like a remarkable human being Roland.

I know Gran was.

Bu2 · July 2007

and the right brain
on hold?

And just enjoy this holiday?

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