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RushlimboRushlimbo Posts: 832
edited July 2007 in A Moving Train
Very accurate presentation.


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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    why do you get so much pleasure out of bashing america every chance you get? why do you live here?
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    Notice the American woman seated in-front of the morbidly obese woman is not obese.

    Obesity is rising at an alarming rate throughout Europe. It forms a pan-
    European epidemic that presents a major barrier to the prevention of chronic
    non-communicable diseases. At least 135 million EU citizens are affected
    and perhaps another 70 million in those countries seeking to join. In many
    countries now significantly more than half the adult population is overweight
    and up to 30% of adults are clinically obese. The prevalence among children
    is rising significantly with as many as one in four affected in some regions.
    http://www.iotf.org/media/euobesity.pdf

    European Public Health Alliance
    http://www.epha.org/a/673

    The Science of Fat
    http://www.hhmi.org/biointeractive/obesity/lectures.html

    Dr. Evans compares the activity of a normal mouse to one with a mutation in a key gene controlling obesity. Also featured on the DVD Science of Fat, available free from HHMI.
    http://www.hhmi.org/biointeractive/obesity/mouseactivity_clip.mov

    Get the facts!
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    ^^^^ atta boy
  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    Notice it's not showing her teeth, lol
  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Notice the American woman seated in-front of the morbidly obese woman is not obese.

    She's from Europe... lol

    The whole world is getting fat in bits and pieces...one fast food item and couch potato at a time...

    just say no to fugly
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    Obesity is a serious problem that isn't solely diet.

    Take a look at this diagram
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:PPAR-diagram.png

    This shows part of the complex system at work in storing and using adipose tissue (Fat). If any of these things do not work properly, you get problems.

    From the main article:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peroxisome_proliferator-activated_receptor

    Syndrome X, Metabolic Syndrome; Insulin Deficiency

    I strongly recommend that lecture series.

    In the news yesterday:
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/01/AR2007070100431.html

    Scientists reported yesterday that they have uncovered a biological switch by which stress can promote obesity, a discovery that could help explain the world's growing weight problem and lead to new ways to melt flab and manipulate fat for cosmetic purposes.

    The full article goes on to explain new therapies in development, pills that melt fat by introducing hormones to the muscle tissue, probably PPAR-Delta (per the lecture series).
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    PJPOWER wrote:
    Notice it's not showing her teeth, lol
    ...
    With an ass like that... who gives a shit about her teeth. I mean, that's why God invented doggy-style.
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    With an ass like that... who gives a shit about her teeth. I mean, that's why God invented doggy-style.
    And paper bags, lol
  • RushlimboRushlimbo Posts: 832
    jlew24asu wrote:
    why do you get so much pleasure out of bashing america every chance you get? why do you live here?

    Jeez, it's a humorous photo, Einstein. Please show me some posts where i bash America (calling Bush a dumbass isnt bashing the country so good luck with this task). Put your tiny red, white, and blue vienna sausage back in your pants.
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  • RushlimboRushlimbo Posts: 832
    Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    With an ass like that... who gives a shit about her teeth. I mean, that's why God invented doggy-style.

    Nice !! LOL !
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Rushlimbo wrote:
    Jeez, it's a humorous photo, Einstein. Please show me some posts where i bash America (calling Bush a dumbass isnt bashing the country so good luck with this task). Put your tiny red, white, and blue vienna sausage back in your pants.

    you can bash bush all you want, and I'll even call you a good american for doing so.

    but this thread is clearly a "Very accurate presentation" as you say, that america is fat and gross while europe is skinny and beautiful.

    you have already been owned by ahminus, so my work is done here.

    good work!!
  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Obesity is a serious problem that isn't solely diet.

    Take a look at this diagram
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:PPAR-diagram.png

    This shows part of the complex system at work in storing and using adipose tissue (Fat). If any of these things do not work properly, you get problems.

    From the main article:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peroxisome_proliferator-activated_receptor

    Syndrome X, Metabolic Syndrome; Insulin Deficiency

    I strongly recommend that lecture series.

    In the news yesterday:
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/01/AR2007070100431.html

    Scientists reported yesterday that they have uncovered a biological switch by which stress can promote obesity, a discovery that could help explain the world's growing weight problem and lead to new ways to melt flab and manipulate fat for cosmetic purposes.

    The full article goes on to explain new therapies in development, pills that melt fat by introducing hormones to the muscle tissue, probably PPAR-Delta (per the lecture series).

    Good. Very good. I saw one of the most gigantic women I've ever seen in person today. Words cant describe. I would have to estimate around 600+ lbs for about 5' 6".

    I just can't imagine anyone being able to eat that much food in order to maintain that amount of body fat. Honestly I don't think there is enough time in the day to process the amount of food required to do that to oneself.

    That being said...laziness, with high stress jobs/lifestyles, combined with high calorie diets are epidemic.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • RushlimboRushlimbo Posts: 832
    jlew24asu wrote:
    you can bash bush all you want, and I'll even call you a good american for doing so.

    but this thread is clearly a "Very accurate presentation" as you say, that america is fat and gross while europe is skinny and beautiful.

    you have already been owned by ahminus, so my work is done here.

    good work!!

    Just what I thought, nothing to back your statement up. Thanks for playing.
    War is Peace
    Freedom is Slavery
    Ignorance is Strength
  • Eliot RosewaterEliot Rosewater Posts: 2,659
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Notice the American woman seated in-front of the morbidly obese woman is not obese.

    Obesity is rising at an alarming rate throughout Europe. It forms a pan-
    European epidemic that presents a major barrier to the prevention of chronic
    non-communicable diseases. At least 135 million EU citizens are affected
    and perhaps another 70 million in those countries seeking to join. In many
    countries now significantly more than half the adult population is overweight
    and up to 30% of adults are clinically obese. The prevalence among children
    is rising significantly with as many as one in four affected in some regions.
    http://www.iotf.org/media/euobesity.pdf

    European Public Health Alliance
    http://www.epha.org/a/673

    The Science of Fat
    http://www.hhmi.org/biointeractive/obesity/lectures.html

    Dr. Evans compares the activity of a normal mouse to one with a mutation in a key gene controlling obesity. Also featured on the DVD Science of Fat, available free from HHMI.
    http://www.hhmi.org/biointeractive/obesity/mouseactivity_clip.mov

    Get the facts!
    Jesus. Ahnimus, I love your posts. You're a goddamn walking encyclopedia. I'm serious, you use more references than anyone else that I've noticed. How do you get away with spending so much time on research?
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Good. Very good. I saw one of the most gigantic women I've ever seen in person today. Words cant describe. I would have to estimate around 600+ lbs for about 5' 6".

    I just can't imagine anyone being able to eat that much food in order to maintain that amount of body fat. Honestly I don't think there is enough time in the day to process the amount of food required to do that to oneself.

    That being said...laziness, with high stress jobs/lifestyles, combined with high calorie diets are epidemic.

    The body also goes into hybernation mode if a person eats and does not exercise. This is the start of a serious rut, where the person may feel lazy all the time and not want to do anything. It's entirely metabolic, kick started by modern culture.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    I eat one meal a day and I'm high on the BMI. Not obese, but overweight for sure.

    I can't even do a sinkful of dishes without getting burned out and have to take a nap. I'm trying to break the cycle, but it's not an easy task.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Eliot RosewaterEliot Rosewater Posts: 2,659
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Good. Very good. I saw one of the most gigantic women I've ever seen in person today. Words cant describe. I would have to estimate around 600+ lbs for about 5' 6".

    I just can't imagine anyone being able to eat that much food in order to maintain that amount of body fat. Honestly I don't think there is enough time in the day to process the amount of food required to do that to oneself.

    That being said...laziness, with high stress jobs/lifestyles, combined with high calorie diets are epidemic.
    Well, the interesting thing is it often doesn't take as much food as you think. And sometimes not as many calories as you think either. Once someone is overweight or obese, they certainly don't have to maintain the same eating habits that got them there in order to stay overweight or obese. They just have to eat as many calories as they're burning and they'll maintain their weight.

    I've started a diet based mostly on eating fruits and vegetables. Not strictly though, not even close. But I used this site to calculate how many calories I really should be eating. And even eating 100 calories less per day really makes a difference. And it's a healthy way to lose weight and keep it off. My sister's been doing this for about a year and has lost 25 lbs and kept it off. http://caloriesperhour.com/
  • RushlimboRushlimbo Posts: 832
    Ahnimus wrote:
    I eat one meal a day and I'm high on the BMI. Not obese, but overweight for sure.

    I can't even do a sinkful of dishes without getting burned out and have to take a nap. I'm trying to break the cycle, but it's not an easy task.

    What foods are you eating? I've read that numerous small meals a day is healthier than one or two large meals.
    War is Peace
    Freedom is Slavery
    Ignorance is Strength
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    Rushlimbo wrote:
    What foods are you eating? I've read that numerous small meals a day is healthier than one or two large meals.

    All bad foods, it's a vicious cycle of eating crap food that makes me lazy and not having the energy to cook and clean healthy meals.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Eliot RosewaterEliot Rosewater Posts: 2,659
    Ahnimus wrote:
    All bad foods, it's a vicious cycle of eating crap food that makes me lazy and not having the energy to cook and clean healthy meals.
    I understand completely. I generally eat lunch and dinner. But snack on something somewhat healthy before then. Usually sunflower seeds at my desk or carrot sticks. I'm no example though. I'm overweight but working on it. I don't exercise much and my laziness has made me choose to eat healthier rather than exercising more. You're right about the crap food though. Once I started eating more veggies and less burgers I noticed right away that I felt ten times better. And now whenever I do eat fast food, especially greasy food I can tell right away what a mistake it was by how it makes me feel physically.
  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    don't gimme no wrote:
    Well, the interesting thing is it often doesn't take as much food as you think. And sometimes not as many calories as you think either. Once someone is overweight or obese, they certainly don't have to maintain the same eating habits that got them there in order to stay overweight or obese. They just have to eat as many calories as they're burning and they'll maintain their weight.

    I've started a diet based mostly on eating fruits and vegetables. Not strictly though, not even close. But I used this site to calculate how many calories I really should be eating. And even eating 100 calories less per day really makes a difference. And it's a healthy way to lose weight and keep it off. My sister's been doing this for about a year and has lost 25 lbs and kept it off. http://caloriesperhour.com/

    I'm just going on the principle of 3500 calories equals a pound. Serious bodybuilders in the bulking phase tend to eat anywhere in the 4000-7000 calories per day range. This becomes incredibly expensive after a while. It all really blows me away to see people 200+ pounds overweight.

    My resting or base metabolic rate is just under 2000 calories per day i.e. what it takes to keep my body functioning at rest. I'm a bit of a fanatic where I measure my body fat with calipers about every 10 days to see where my efforts are going (fat loss v.s. muscle tissue loss). What I have come to learn is that changing the food thing/body type situation needs to be a slow gradual process otherwise it will become filed away as a "fad" not a progressive lifestyle choice.

    slow and steady and persistent definitely wins this race.

    5 - 6 300-500 calorie meals or snacks throughout the day keeps the metabolism screaming. I try to never eat more than 500 calories at once unless it's breakfast which you can essentially pig out and not worry too much.

    I could go on forever about this so I'll stop now...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Rushlimbo wrote:
    Just what I thought, nothing to back your statement up. Thanks for playing.


    wow. um, try again...

    jlew24asu wrote:
    but this thread is clearly a "Very accurate presentation" as you say, that america is fat and gross while europe is skinny and beautiful.
  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    MY 2c is eating right is a momentum thing. Once you get to a certain point there's no stopping it. The toxins flush out, everything in your body just works properly. You just feel good. First the mind must be willing and the will must be there. It doesn't have to happen all at once, meaning a year or two to transition even is ok.

    One statement that drove it home for me was:

    "if you do not plan on setting aside a little bit of time for being healthy, plan on setting aside a lot of time at some point for being sick".

    here endeth the sermon...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • RushlimboRushlimbo Posts: 832
    jlew24asu wrote:
    wow. um, try again...

    Jeez, you are starting to creep me out. I hate America and all Americans. I hate apple pie, I hate Chevrolet. Fireworks -- hate 'em. Stars and stripes - hate that billowing flag. Satisfied? Now leave me alone please.
    War is Peace
    Freedom is Slavery
    Ignorance is Strength
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Rushlimbo wrote:
    Jeez, you are starting to creep me out. I hate America and all Americans. I hate apple pie, I hate Chevrolet. Fireworks -- hate 'em. Stars and stripes - hate that billowing flag. Satisfied? Now leave me alone please.
    you made this thread for a reason. guess i'm not surprised that you are acting like a sissy when you get called out. yea, I'm satisfied.
  • RushlimboRushlimbo Posts: 832
    jlew24asu wrote:
    you made this thread for a reason. guess i'm not surprised that you are acting like a sissy when you get called out. yea, I'm satisfied.

    Dont call me a sissy you big doo-doo head. I think your hatred for me clouds the humor of the photo. Lighten up and your next girlfriend might not drop you as hard as your last one did.
    War is Peace
    Freedom is Slavery
    Ignorance is Strength
  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Ahnimus wrote:
    I eat one meal a day and I'm high on the BMI. Not obese, but overweight for sure.

    I can't even do a sinkful of dishes without getting burned out and have to take a nap. I'm trying to break the cycle, but it's not an easy task.

    I have faith in you man. I know you're smart enough to give your mind what it craves from a physical perspective.

    Make it happen.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    I have faith in you man. I know you're smart enough to give your mind what it craves from a physical perspective.

    Make it happen.

    Mmmm that was some good A&W... Doh!

    I'm trying man, I'm trying. lol
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Rushlimbo wrote:
    Dont call me a sissy you big doo-doo head. I think your hatred for me clouds the humor of the photo. Lighten up and your next girlfriend might not drop you as hard as your last one did.
    haha. nice try. you and your buddy specifics seem to think jabbing at me about some girlfriend is going to effect me? you know nothing about me. and for the people that know me on this board, know I have no problem getting women.

    time for new material, I'm just sayin.


    and my hatred for you did not cloud anything. this photo isn't funny. and as ahnimus pointed out, accurate either.
  • RushlimboRushlimbo Posts: 832
    jlew24asu wrote:
    haha. nice try. you and your buddy specifics seem to think jabbing at me about some girlfriend is going to effect me? you know nothing about me. and for the people that know me on this board, know I have no problem getting women.

    I'm sorry, I got that wrong. I forgot about the photo you posted awhile back of yourself with your view of fat women. Sorry again, buddy.

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    Freedom is Slavery
    Ignorance is Strength
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