United States vs Europe

RolandTD20Kdrummer

don't gimme no wrote:

Well, the interesting thing is it often doesn't take as much food as you think. And sometimes not as many calories as you think either. Once someone is overweight or obese, they certainly don't have to maintain the same eating habits that got them there in order to stay overweight or obese. They just have to eat as many calories as they're burning and they'll maintain their weight.

I've started a diet based mostly on eating fruits and vegetables. Not strictly though, not even close. But I used this site to calculate how many calories I really should be eating. And even eating 100 calories less per day really makes a difference. And it's a healthy way to lose weight and keep it off. My sister's been doing this for about a year and has lost 25 lbs and kept it off. http://caloriesperhour.com/

I'm just going on the principle of 3500 calories equals a pound. Serious bodybuilders in the bulking phase tend to eat anywhere in the 4000-7000 calories per day range. This becomes incredibly expensive after a while. It all really blows me away to see people 200+ pounds overweight.

My resting or base metabolic rate is just under 2000 calories per day i.e. what it takes to keep my body functioning at rest. I'm a bit of a fanatic where I measure my body fat with calipers about every 10 days to see where my efforts are going (fat loss v.s. muscle tissue loss). What I have come to learn is that changing the food thing/body type situation needs to be a slow gradual process otherwise it will become filed away as a "fad" not a progressive lifestyle choice.

slow and steady and persistent definitely wins this race.

5 - 6 300-500 calorie meals or snacks throughout the day keeps the metabolism screaming. I try to never eat more than 500 calories at once unless it's breakfast which you can essentially pig out and not worry too much.

I could go on forever about this so I'll stop now...

jlew24asu

Rushlimbo wrote:

Just what I thought, nothing to back your statement up. Thanks for playing.

wow. um, try again...

jlew24asu wrote:

but this thread is clearly a "Very accurate presentation" as you say, that america is fat and gross while europe is skinny and beautiful.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

MY 2c is eating right is a momentum thing. Once you get to a certain point there's no stopping it. The toxins flush out, everything in your body just works properly. You just feel good. First the mind must be willing and the will must be there. It doesn't have to happen all at once, meaning a year or two to transition even is ok.

One statement that drove it home for me was:

"if you do not plan on setting aside a little bit of time for being healthy, plan on setting aside a lot of time at some point for being sick".

here endeth the sermon...

Rushlimbo

jlew24asu wrote:

wow. um, try again...

Jeez, you are starting to creep me out. I hate America and all Americans. I hate apple pie, I hate Chevrolet. Fireworks -- hate 'em. Stars and stripes - hate that billowing flag. Satisfied? Now leave me alone please.

jlew24asu

Rushlimbo wrote:

Jeez, you are starting to creep me out. I hate America and all Americans. I hate apple pie, I hate Chevrolet. Fireworks -- hate 'em. Stars and stripes - hate that billowing flag. Satisfied? Now leave me alone please.

you made this thread for a reason. guess i'm not surprised that you are acting like a sissy when you get called out. yea, I'm satisfied.

Rushlimbo

jlew24asu wrote:

you made this thread for a reason. guess i'm not surprised that you are acting like a sissy when you get called out. yea, I'm satisfied.

Dont call me a sissy you big doo-doo head. I think your hatred for me clouds the humor of the photo. Lighten up and your next girlfriend might not drop you as hard as your last one did.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

Ahnimus wrote:

I eat one meal a day and I'm high on the BMI. Not obese, but overweight for sure.

I can't even do a sinkful of dishes without getting burned out and have to take a nap. I'm trying to break the cycle, but it's not an easy task.

I have faith in you man. I know you're smart enough to give your mind what it craves from a physical perspective.

Make it happen.

Ahnimus

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

I have faith in you man. I know you're smart enough to give your mind what it craves from a physical perspective.

Make it happen.

Mmmm that was some good A&W... Doh!

I'm trying man, I'm trying. lol

jlew24asu

Rushlimbo wrote:

Dont call me a sissy you big doo-doo head. I think your hatred for me clouds the humor of the photo. Lighten up and your next girlfriend might not drop you as hard as your last one did.

haha. nice try. you and your buddy specifics seem to think jabbing at me about some girlfriend is going to effect me? you know nothing about me. and for the people that know me on this board, know I have no problem getting women.

time for new material, I'm just sayin.


and my hatred for you did not cloud anything. this photo isn't funny. and as ahnimus pointed out, accurate either.

Rushlimbo

jlew24asu wrote:

haha. nice try. you and your buddy specifics seem to think jabbing at me about some girlfriend is going to effect me? you know nothing about me. and for the people that know me on this board, know I have no problem getting women.

I'm sorry, I got that wrong. I forgot about the photo you posted awhile back of yourself with your view of fat women. Sorry again, buddy.

http://goodiesfirst.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/nofatchicks.jpg

RolandTD20Kdrummer

For the record I think jlew get his fair share of female persuasion in life. And for the record I like Rush's tiny penis jokes. Not picking any sides because they often change.

but...oh well....who gives a fuck what I really think lol

edit: I just retyped that last bit with my toes....wireless keyboard

jlew24asu

Rushlimbo wrote:

I'm sorry, I got that wrong. I forgot about the photo you posted awhile back of yourself with your view of fat women. Sorry again, buddy.

http://goodiesfirst.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/nofatchicks.jpg

actually, my photo, along with several others I've taken, can be seen here


http://www.myspace.com/chicagophotoshop

and I like the shirt that guy is wearing. obesity disgusts me.

jlew24asu

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

edit: I just retyped that last bit with my toes....wireless keyboard

that takes talent. can you hold a fork and eat too, with your toes?? something to strive for.

Ahnimus

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

For the record I think jlew get his fair share of female persuasion in life. And for the record I like Rush's tiny penis jokes. Not picking any sides because they often change.

but...oh well....who gives a fuck what I really think lol

edit: I just retyped that last bit with my toes....wireless keyboard

How fast can you type with your toes?

RolandTD20Kdrummer

Ahnimus wrote:

How fast can you type with your toes?

Incredibly slow and arduous, but that's part of the charm....however it's getting much better since I first got this keyboard. Proudly, I've got enter (numpad), shift and ctrl totally nailed. I saw this armless dude drum with his feet at a seminar once. I was blown away.

Feet...the other hands.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

jlew24asu wrote:

that takes talent. can you hold a fork and eat too, with your toes?? something to strive for.

If only it helped me with the ladies

Ahnimus

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Incredibly slow and arduous, but that's part of the charm....however it's getting much better since I first got this keyboard. Proudly, I've got enter (numpad), shift and ctrl totally nailed. I saw this armless dude drum with his feet at a seminar once. I was blown away.

Feet...the other hands.

My toes are quite long and I'm capable of picking things up or what-not with them. Never tried typing though.

SundaySilence

jlew24asu wrote:

this photo isn't funny. and as ahnimus pointed out, accurate either.

I don't find it that funny either, though humor can be subjective. On average it is accurate though. Ahnimus pointed out that obesity in Europe is on the rise. You shouldn't interpret that to mean obesity in Europe is as prevelant as it is in the United States. Here is a country by country comparison. You can see that the US is still without rival.

http://www.oecdobserver.org/images//1045.photo.jpg

Anectodally, european friends of mine have noted that there seems to be more obesity in the US. They suggest part of the reason may be that europeans walk more than americans when going about their daily routines.

Ahnimus

SundaySilence wrote:

I don't find it that funny either, though humor can be subjective. On average it is accurate though. Ahnimus pointed out that obesity in Europe is on the rise. You shouldn't interpret that to mean obesity in Europe is as prevelant as it is in the United States. Here is a country by country comparison. You can see that the US is still without rival.

http://www.oecdobserver.org/images//1045.photo.jpg

Anectodally, european friends of mine have noted that there seems to be more obesity in the US. They suggest part of the reason may be that europeans walk more than americans when going about their daily routines.

I'm not sure I trust that graph. But even so, the issue I take with the posted image, is the suggestion that McDonald's or diet in general is the primary cause of obesity. It may very well be stress-related, or it could be genetic. Much obesity is attributable to diet and exercise, but not all.

A girl I am seeing for example, I hope she doesn't read this, she is kind of chunky, which surprises me, because she plays sports like 3 times a week and goes to the gym atleast a couple times a week. She eats pretty healthy, except when she's around me. Then her mom is quite large, so I think its largely genetic for her. She isn't like really big, but I doubt she could do more than she is to slim down.

Bu2

Chinese?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/07/03/again-chinese-authoritie_n_54753.html