R.I.P Saddam Hussein

NMyTree wrote:

If see "sympathy for Saddam" , then you need glasses. Or visit your eye doctor ( or local reading comprehension center) to correct your lens or reading skills.

Skitch Patterson wrote:

I dont see any saddam sympathy, just a general life sympathy.
Even though i dont agree with the view, and think its been presented by some in a very judgemental view, I can understand the view of against murder/killing in any situation, and i see no problem with it.

Thanks folks, I was starting to read back over my posts to see if I was stuttering or something.;) Don't wish for or celebrate Suddam's or anybody elses death. But it has all played out as it has. And so be it. And not to get folk screaming at me from all angles but the reason people are making comparisons to George is because they can feel the undermining of the people. Perhaps not so easy to recognise his "evil" (for want of a better word) because it is miles away and happenening to somebody else and Suddam's was up close and personal and reported as such. George has a pretty good media advisor. We will probably never know all the things that he has really been perpertrating. His "image" is maintained quite well by his agent.;)

sponger wrote:

He couldn't if he wanted to. And if I had to guess whether or not that want was there, I'd have to say that it is, given his track record thus far.


Therefore, he committed mass murder on the basis of national security. Sound familiar?

That's a pretty rediculous assumption to make about president bush. How about less insane assumptions and more talk about what is factual?

Caught Without An Umbrella

Memories come down and me once again
caught without an umbrella
memories come down and me once again
caught without an umbrella

Well it was not -that he was particularly
suicidal he just didn't care wether he lived or died though
it was just a matter of time
you got yours and I got mine
when he turned sixteen
they said he could drive
when he turned eighteen they said he could die
when he turned twenty one he could buy rum
but no one ever taught him
how things were done
then an angel appeared inside his head
she said boy do you think
you're realty better off dead
he don't know he just shook his heed

(chorus)
'Cause he thought the day that he died
would be a normal day for the people on the other side
He thought that the day that he died
would be a normal day for the people on the other side
but memories come down and me once again
caught without an umbrella

But time was a matter of velocity
in this age of information and technology
he would cry in the shower
put his face in a towel hot from the dryer
then he sat down and wrote a note to his mom
when all is said and done
can I still be your son
because manhood is so elusive
and respect is so exclusive
and I got a daddy to prove it
I think I'll never get to shake it and move
then he tied a rope around his neck
looked in the mirror and said what the heck
I'm gonna bring the whole roof down with me
and then he jumped

(chorus)

"Come in Vernon'

But halt way down
he heard what the angel said
and he realized -he really didn't want to be dead
he landed with a thump- his head was reeling
layin in a lump- looked up at the ceiling
and saw that the rope... had broke
well he failed at the only thing
that he thought he couldn't fail at
that was takin' his own life
and he said" I kinda like livin'
he could feel his heart makin a boom
sounded like music in the next room
music in the next room
he said "it's time for a celebration"
felt his hands looked at his face
lifted the rope off his throat, "I ain't such a disgrace."
he said manhood is so elusive and respect is so exclusive
and I gotta daddy to prove, that some people never get to
shake it and move.

(chorus)

And He knew that the day that he tried
was not a normal day for the people

And memories come down and me once again
am caught without an umbrella

DCGARDEN wrote:

There was a man who lived in a country a few years ago. This man was not respectful to the current government and had no problems speaking his mind. The president of this government caught wind of this man's opinions and ordered he and his 5 year old son, to be brought to the presidential palace. The man was tied up, and forced to watch, as the president ordered his henchmen to tie the boy's arms and have a machine on either side of him pull completely untill the arms were yanked out of the socket.
The man and his mutilated child were sent home, and the man never spoke out again publicly.

The president who ordered the torture of the 5 year old was Sadamm Hussein.

For whatever your issues are with Bush, do not lower your intelligence to comparing him to someone like this.

is this post 100% fact????

anyone????

verb_to_trust wrote:

That's a pretty rediculous assumption to make about president bush. How about less insane assumptions and more talk about what is factual?

Oh really?

Please explain what portion of his post is not factual.

sponger wrote:

He couldn't if he wanted to. And if I had to guess whether or not that want was there, I'd have to say that it is, given his track record thus far.

What makes Saddam and Bush different is that Saddam took leadership over a society that was already devoid of the checks and balances that american leaders are faced with.

In spite of these checks and balances, Bush has already proven that he has every intention of side-stepping them wherever loopholes in our system permit.

And rather than domesticating mass murder like Saddam did, Bush exported it in the form of war for oil -the only difference being the borders behind which those murders were committed.

And why did Saddam commit genocide and mass murder? Was it because he is a sick, twisted, psychopath. Could it be possible that it was the only way to maintain power and order within the violent and sectarian country that is Iraq?

He gassed the kurds because they were forming alliances with the Iranians. The Iranians were creeping right up on Saddam's borders and threatening the security of his entire nation.

Therefore, he committed mass murder on the basis of national security. Sound familiar?

Byrnzie wrote:

Nobody on this thread, as far as i can see, has made excuses for Sadaam or underestimated what a sick fuck he was. The arguments here are about the right and wrongs of the death penalty, and of equal justice - i.e, if Sadaam was hung for overseeing the deaths of thousands of civilians, then Bush et al should also be hung for overseeing the deaths of thousands in an illegal war of occupation.
As far as Sadaams torture chambers e.t.c - anyone heard of Abu Ghraib?

****ROUND OF APPLAUSE**** Thank you Byrnzie! Well said.

Peter C wrote:

This is an interesting read
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/fisk/article2112555.ece

Thanks Peter C. That was interesting. Still bidding on Ebay for Mirror Ball, thought you'd like to know.

Jeanie wrote:

Thanks Peter C. That was interesting. Still bidding on Ebay for Mirror Ball, thought you'd like to know.

Hi Jeanie,hope you're okay.

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/...cle2112555.ece


" Who encouraged Saddam to invade Iran in 1980, which was the greatest war crime he has committed for it led to the deaths of a million and a half souls? And who sold him the components for the chemical weapons with which he drenched Iran and the Kurds? We did. No wonder the Americans, who controlled Saddam's weird trial, forbad any mention of this, his most obscene atrocity, in the charges against him. Could he not have been handed over to the Iranians for sentencing for this massive war crime? Of course not. Because that would also expose our culpability."

Awesome. Right on target.