McCain voted with Bush 95% of the time..

MrBrian
MrBrian Posts: 2,672
edited September 2008 in A Moving Train
as the Obama campaign say's. and Obama himself? Apparently voted for Bush 40% of the time in 2007, 40%! that's not change, it's 40% of the same!

and in 2006, 49% of the time.
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  • mca47
    mca47 Posts: 13,342
    MrBrian wrote:
    as the Obama campaign say's. and Obama himself? Apparently voted for Bush 40% of the time in 2007, 40%! that's not change, it's 40% of the same!

    and in 2006, 49% of the time.

    Let's see your source.
  • MrBrian
    MrBrian Posts: 2,672
    mca47 wrote:
    Let's see your source.

    Sure! check this out

    http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/o000167/

    http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/Barack_Obama.htm

    Then find the other record and do the math. If you find any issues, be sure to post them.
  • orig_long red
    orig_long red Posts: 2,029
    thats less than half you dumbass. fine by me.
    Jam out with your clam out.
  • Smellyman2
    Smellyman2 Posts: 689
    <50 better than %95
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    How often did Obama vote the Dem party line?
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • OffHeGoes29
    OffHeGoes29 Posts: 1,240
    How do you "vote with Bush"? I thought he just gives his yeah or neah to a bill? Something that was voted on by congress before he get it?
    BRING BACK THE WHALE
  • OffHeGoes29
    OffHeGoes29 Posts: 1,240
    Oh I see, so you're saying any vote that agrees with the GOP is a vote that supports Bush.
    BRING BACK THE WHALE
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    "The two parties should be almost identical, so that the American
    people can 'throw the rascals out' at any election without leading
    to any profound or extensive shifts in policy." - Carol Quigley
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
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  • digster
    digster Posts: 1,293
    OffHeGoes29 wrote:
    How do you "vote with Bush"? I thought he just gives his yeah or neah to a bill? Something that was voted on by congress before he get it?

    I'm largely going from conjecture here, but I think it's probably pretty likely that the White House releases statements and whatnots that make Bush's position on the bills going towards Congress pretty clear.

    Plus, he's taking McCain at his word; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uThoBMfcFRc
  • OffHeGoes29
    OffHeGoes29 Posts: 1,240
    digster wrote:
    I'm largely going from conjecture here, but I think it's probably pretty likely that the White House releases statements and whatnots that make Bush's position on the bills going towards Congress pretty clear.

    Plus, he's taking McCain at his word; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uThoBMfcFRc

    Its a cut and paste video, with no reference as to what they asked him to lead up to those answers. Is that 95% based on what the President will pass? Or is it 95% of what he will pass or veto?
    BRING BACK THE WHALE
  • digster
    digster Posts: 1,293
    OffHeGoes29 wrote:
    Its a cut and paste video, with no reference as to what they asked him to lead up to those answers. Is that 95% based on what the President will pass? Or is it 95% of what he will pass or veto?

    Hold on. It's exactly what I'm saying it is, but I have to find the text. I remember it being posted around here a few days ago.

    And of course, it's 90, not 95. Why would it be what he'd veto? This President's vetoed hardly anything.
  • digster
    digster Posts: 1,293
    TIM RUSSERT: The fact is you are different than George Bush.

    SEN. McCAIN: No. No. I--the fact is that I'm different but the fact is that I have agreed with President Bush far more than I have disagreed. And on the transcendent issues, the most important issues of our day, I've been totally in agreement and support of President Bush. So have we had some disagreements on some issues, the bulk--particularly domestic issues? Yes. But I will argue my conservative record voting with anyone's, and I will also submit that my support for President Bush has been active and very impassioned on issues that are important to the American people. And I'm particularly talking about the war on terror, the war in Iraq, national security, national defense, support of men and women in the military, fiscal discipline, a number of other issues. So I strongly disagree with any assertion that I've been more at odds with the president of the United States than I have been in agreement with him.


    CAVUTO: Let me ask you, Senator, all things being equal right now and given the fact that you differ with the president so strongly on this tax cut and on some of these spending issues, would you ever consider challenging him for the Republican nomination next year?

    MCCAIN: No, no. But, look, the president and I agree on most issues. There was a recent study that showed that I voted with the president over 90 percent of the time, higher than a lot of my even Republican colleagues.

    This is an honest difference of opinion, but it’s also what I campaigned on. I campaigned on a tax package that had to do with a balanced budget, not to do with massive deficits, and I’m sticking with the principles and the philosophy that I campaigned for president on, albeit I lost.

    Note: John McCain now supports the Bush tax plan.
  • Hold_On
    Hold_On Posts: 52
    yet again, it looks like a choice between 2 heaping bowls of shit....
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Hold_On wrote:
    yet again, it looks like a choice between 2 heaping bowls of shit....


    one side taxes less and wasteful spends more....the other side spends less and taxes more..


    exact same thing...yet some still choose to see the emperors clothes instead of the heaping coil of steaming shite....

    time will learn them....or perhaps reading more about politics...it's like stealing back time to ones advantage.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
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  • cubbieblue82
    cubbieblue82 Posts: 292
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    one side taxes less and wasteful spends more....the other side spends less and taxes more..


    exact same thing...yet some still choose to see the emperors clothes instead of the heaping coil of steaming shite....

    time will learn them....or perhaps reading more about politics...it's like stealing back time to ones advantage.

    I'm not one that thinks that Obama will save the world, but the statement you just made make no sense.

    One of those policies leads to a surplus, while the other leads to massive amounts of debt for the US. How exactly are those 2 things the same?
    Obama/Biden '08!!!
  • jimed14
    jimed14 Posts: 9,488
    cubbieblue82 wrote:
    I'm not one that thinks that Obama will save the world, but the statement you just made make no sense.

    One of those policies leads to a surplus, while the other leads to massive amounts of debt for the US. How exactly are those 2 things the same?

    indeed ...

    How Republicans have managed the National Debt
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  • catch22
    catch22 Posts: 1,081
    cubbieblue82 wrote:
    I'm not one that thinks that Obama will save the world, but the statement you just made make no sense.

    One of those policies leads to a surplus, while the other leads to massive amounts of debt for the US. How exactly are those 2 things the same?

    if you're expecting logic from people like him, you're going to be disappointed.

    to the original poster, how about showing what those votes were for? got to love this guy's logic:
    50% difference in views = the same candidates!
    partisanship is bad, but if you ever vote in agreement with a republican you are as bad as george bush.

    :rolleyes:

    the only comfort is this dude is in canada and can't vote here. we've got enough of a voter intelligence deficit as it is.
    and like that... he's gone.
  • MrBrian
    MrBrian Posts: 2,672
    and he votes in line with the dems over 90% of the time! Yep, a very new kind of democrat.
  • Gonzo1977
    Gonzo1977 Posts: 1,696
    MrBrian wrote:
    and he votes in line with the dems over 90% of the time! Yep, a very new kind of democrat.


    So fucking what?
    What are the issues?
    Do you agree with some of these issues? These votes?
    Surely you must...at least 50% of the time.

    You have a brain don't you?...You have ideas and positions on topics...don't you?

    Sometimes they run with your party line...Sometimes they don't.

    It's called being objective.
    It's called a point of view.

    You mean to tell me you'd vote against everything 100% of the time?

    or

    Did you even bother to read up on some of this legislation that was being passed before you threw out your 49% of the time arguement?

    Probably not.

    I hardly think this makes Obama bad...a liar...or a phony agent of change.

    It's worthless bullshit hollow arguments like this that are just fogging up the mirrors in this election.

    Just go on believing your boy McCain is a Maverick.
    Keep telling yourself that while he's taking your house, your job, and sending your children off to war.
  • catch22
    catch22 Posts: 1,081
    MrBrian wrote:
    and he votes in line with the dems over 90% of the time! Yep, a very new kind of democrat.

    so which is it? he's a republican drone or a democratic drone?
    and like that... he's gone.

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