Why Religion Must Remain A Part Of The World...

ItsEvolutionBaby74
ItsEvolutionBaby74 Posts: 490
edited October 2006 in A Moving Train
At least for me it must because i have Bi-Polar disorder and i need the spiritual help to keep me where I am, and without an afterlife...whats the point? And how do you know there is no afterlife?? Are you dead?? If so I wont be hearing your response to this thread.
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  • Collin
    Collin Posts: 4,931
    Do you really need religion or your personal belief in the after life or your belief in a god?

    p.s. Glad you can get strength out of your beliefs.
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  • Will1659
    Will1659 Posts: 51
    How do you know there is an afterlife? Are you dead? Saying you "need" it because the idea of it somehow gives you strength now doesn't prove its existence.
  • warehouse
    warehouse Posts: 124
    Without an afterlife the "point" is still to live a good life, to have a positive effect on the world and those around you, to still live morally.
    Lying sideways atop crumpled sheets and no covers he decides to dream. Dream up a new self. For himself.

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  • BinFrog
    BinFrog MA Posts: 7,314
    ItsEvolutionBaby74 wrote:
    At least for me it must because i have Bi-Polar disorder and i need the spiritual help to keep me where I am, and without an afterlife...whats the point? And how do you know there is no afterlife?? Are you dead?? If so I wont be hearing your response to this thread.

    You don't need religion to be spiritual. Just live a good life and realize everyone and everything is connected and you can't go wrong.
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  • kenny olav
    kenny olav Posts: 3,319
    I can't say for sure that there's an afterlife, and I don't think anyone can, but the feeling that my soul will live on after my body dies is unshakable. I think all religions are nonsense, but nonsense isn't bad as long as you don't treat it seriously. In fact, nonsense is great! I love absurdism. And that's why I have adopted the pagan practices that have continued on despite Christianity. Halloween is coming up soon, and that's fun. Yesterday I went to family-owned pumpkin patch to pick out a few future jack o' lanterns with my fiancee and kid.

    Anyway, back to the soul living on - which is how to prefer to think of it, rather than an 'afterlife' - I certainly have no idea what happens, but the ideas of heaven and hell seem too simplistic to me. I imagine life, whether on this world or another, is a journey that leads, if you want it to, to greater and greater enlightenment. When you become fully enlightened, well, then maybe you die. Doesn't seem to be much point to existance after that. But who fuckin knows?
  • robbie
    robbie Posts: 883
    i agree that religion may be helpful to people that have a need to believe in an afterlife. it may be helpful to people who cannot deal with the loss of a loved one and need the thought of an afterlife to deal with that situation. i believe it is helpful to people who have trouble controlling their actions without the fear of eternal punishment. i also believe it is helpful to thos about to die, and fear the unknown. i have NO problem with religion for these personal issues, the problem comes in when the people of any religion pass laws based on their personal faith that effect those of us who do not need religion to deal with life.
  • Pearl Jam and toast
    Pearl Jam and toast Posts: 4,475
    BinFrog wrote:
    You don't need religion to be spiritual. Just live a good life and realize everyone and everything is connected and you can't go wrong.
    Preach on.
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  • UpSideDown
    UpSideDown Posts: 1,966
    religion will remain a part of the world because people are too fragile to face mortality

    having no after life is one of the scariest thoughts a person can have
  • eden
    eden Posts: 407
    ItsEvolutionBaby74 wrote:
    At least for me it must because i have Bi-Polar disorder and i need the spiritual help to keep me where I am, and without an afterlife...whats the point? And how do you know there is no afterlife?? Are you dead?? If so I wont be hearing your response to this thread.

    I believe spirituality is a primal human need that we either supress or embrace. I love that saying "there are no atheists in foxholes".

    Death is an unnatural state, we were created with eternity in mind. Otherwise it would be easier to accept the death of a loved one. To the contrary, when someone you love dies the human mind absolutely cant wrap around the idea that the person is gone, so they go into denial, or survive it however they can.
  • eden
    eden Posts: 407
    Corey Erven wrote:
    religion will remain a part of the world because people are too fragile to face mortality

    having no after life is one of the scariest thoughts a person can have

    But take it a step further, WHY are our minds created without the compehension of death? Makes no sense unless death isnt natural to begin with.

    Scientists are still baffled at why the Human body breaks down and begins to die, they say our cells should have the capability to renew themselves forever.
  • brain of c
    brain of c Posts: 5,213
    ItsEvolutionBaby74 wrote:
    At least for me it must because i have Bi-Polar disorder and i need the spiritual help to keep me where I am, and without an afterlife...whats the point? And how do you know there is no afterlife?? Are you dead?? If so I wont be hearing your response to this thread.


    everybody dies.


    make up your own story.
    d'oh!!!!!!

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  • UpSideDown
    UpSideDown Posts: 1,966
    eden wrote:
    But take it a step further, WHY are our minds created without the compehension of death? Makes no sense unless death isnt natural to begin with.

    Scientists are still baffled at why the Human body breaks down and begins to die, they say our cells should have the capability to renew themselves forever.

    Care to elaborate on the first statement? I dont quite see what you mean
  • eden
    eden Posts: 407
    Corey Erven wrote:
    Care to elaborate on the first statement? I dont quite see what you mean


    Things that are part of the natural order of things are easy for our minds to come to terms with.

    Death is beyond human comprehension, and I (being a believer of intelligent design) think its because we were created with eternity as our destinies, until this changed along the line.

    If you are an evolutionist then its pointless even talking to each other.
  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    Corey Erven wrote:
    religion will remain a part of the world because people are too fragile to face mortality

    having no after life is one of the scariest thoughts a person can have
    Not always true. I am comforted by the thought that this is it. I don't want to live forever.
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    eden wrote:
    Things that are part of the natural order of things are easy for our minds to come to terms with.

    Death is beyond human comprehension, and I (being a believer of intelligent design) think its because we were created with eternity as our destinies, until this changed along the line.

    If you are an evolutionist then its pointless even talking to each other.
    What is more natural than death? Everything that is alive will eventually die. It's the ONE thing all living beings have in common. It is not at all beyond my comprehension.
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
  • Infinity_Now
    Infinity_Now Posts: 188
    "Why Religion Must Remain A Part Of The World,"

    ...because God might get lonely! or

    ...because religion must remain apart of the world.

    bwahaha... start the bad jokes!
  • eden
    eden Posts: 407
    hippiemom wrote:
    Not always true. I am comforted by the thought that this is it. I don't want to live forever.

    I dont so much want to live forever as much as I cant grasp that my friends and fam are only mine for 70 or so years and then thats it. Especially my daughter.
  • UpSideDown
    UpSideDown Posts: 1,966
    hippiemom wrote:
    Not always true. I am comforted by the thought that this is it. I don't want to live forever.

    Well i would say you are certainly in the minority in that thought

    thats an interesting outlook for sure
  • UpSideDown
    UpSideDown Posts: 1,966
    hippiemom wrote:
    What is more natural than death? Everything that is alive will eventually die. It's the ONE thing all living beings have in common. It is not at all beyond my comprehension.

    I agree with your point here, as most of us inherently avoid injury or death

    Maybe its not so much the act or process of death that we cant grasp but more of the meaning that we associate with it
  • eden
    eden Posts: 407
    hippiemom wrote:
    What is more natural than death? Everything that is alive will eventually die. It's the ONE thing all living beings have in common. It is not at all beyond my comprehension.


    The one thing besides BIRTH ?!

    Also, I admire your elevated thinking, I really do, but- have you experienced the death of a child, mate, or beloved parent. I think it changes perception when people go through this.

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