A question of spirits/souls

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    i'm not. i was just saying. i don't care dude. i wasn't even going to respond to any of your posts. it doesn't even matter to me. you know what i mean? i'm just here making conversation, yes about my dad. the tone of your post sound oddly bitter and very attacking most times. not that it matters though... cause i think i sound like that too sometimes. yes, you're weird.

    hey..... if you can poke fun.... so can i.

    You see a lot of yourself in your Dad. Identity can be a bitch, sometimes. That you find admirable, if not questionable qualities in one so intricately woven into your own existence is nothing less than what spiritual is.

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    i'm not. i was just saying. i don't care dude. i wasn't even going to respond to any of your posts. it doesn't even matter to me. you know what i mean? i'm just here making conversation, yes about my dad. the tone of your post sound oddly bitter and very attacking most times. not that it matters though... cause i think i sound like that too sometimes. yes, you're weird.

    hey..... if you can poke fun.... so can i.

    fair enough man. just seemed kinda fruity the way you said everyone your dad talks to cries like a teenage girl at an nsync concert.
  • Posts: 5,515
    fair enough man. just seemed kinda fruity the way you said everyone your dad talks to cries like a teenage girl at an nsync concert.
    I think he was just expressing an appreciation...
    C'mon, you've never cried at something touching and profound?

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    gue_barium wrote:
    I think he was just expressing an appreciation...
    C'mon, you've never cried at something touching and profound?

    nope. not that i recall. and it's cool if that's what he was doing, i was just calling him on the hyperbole and he kept insisting it wasn't. if he'd said "yeah ok, maybe you wouldn't spontaneously burst into tears just by shaking his hand, but he's an amazing guy" that woulda been the end. but he kept on with the "no way man! my dad is so cool! it's all true! you'd cry dude, swear to god!"
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    nope. not that i recall. and it's cool if that's what he was doing, i was just calling him on the hyperbole and he kept insisting it wasn't. if he'd said "yeah ok, maybe you wouldn't spontaneously burst into tears just by shaking his hand, but he's an amazing guy" that woulda been the end. but he kept on with the "no way man! my dad is so cool! it's all true! you'd cry dude, swear to god!"

    By AMT standards, I suppose I can concur with you that it was a bit TMI. He should have expected the backlash. Then again, he's just being himself on a topic that we are all a part of.
    We all have our Dads.

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  • nope. not that i recall. and it's cool if that's what he was doing, i was just calling him on the hyperbole and he kept insisting it wasn't. if he'd said "yeah ok, maybe you wouldn't spontaneously burst into tears just by shaking his hand, but he's an amazing guy" that woulda been the end. but he kept on with the "no way man! my dad is so cool! it's all true! you'd cry dude, swear to god!"
    no i didn't dude. i said i don't care... you're such a liar.
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    no i didn't dude. i said i don't care... you're such a liar.

    Soulsinging is a firecracker who's Dad has a bigger 'pop' than your Pop.

    Hehee.

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  • fair enough man. just seemed kinda fruity the way you said everyone your dad talks to cries like a teenage girl at an nsync concert.
    it was a figure of speech. like i said earlier, you're very critical. yeah, i'm exaggerating a little bit even though it's true.... i've seen my dad be brutally honest to even a mexican mobster in mexico. he was tripped out at my dad and couldn't say anything. my dad's just one of those crazy dudes, what can i say?
    This isn't the land of opportunity, it's the land of competition.
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    it was a figure of speech.

    that's what i thought. did the mexican mobster throw down his guns embrace your dad's knees and renounce all violence before joining a seminary?
  • i have always thought of, and thus believed...as soul/spirit...to be your inner *life force*...that which IS life, in you.
    Stay with me...
    Let's just breathe...


    I am myself like you somehow


  • that's what i thought. did the mexican mobster throw down his guns embrace your dad's knees and renounce all violence before joining a seminary?
    no.... he just got freaked out. like i'm sure you would. hehe
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    Jeanie wrote:
    But the "essence" or "presence" of who she was, or is, it lives on inside me. I realize that to you that would be simply all that I have "learned" of her during my life but I do believe it is more than that. To me a "soul" is the essence of a person.


    wonderful words Jeanie, i specifically took those couple of sentences of your text so that they can stand out.
  • Posts: 13,202
    no.... he just got freaked out. like i'm sure you would. hehe

    freaked out? the shit i've seen and done there's nothing your dad's jesus-fire-and-brimstone nonsense could do to me.
  • gue_barium wrote:
    You see a lot of yourself in your Dad. Identity can be a bitch, sometimes. That you find admirable, if not questionable qualities in one so intricately woven into your own existence is nothing less than what spiritual is.
    well, there's definitely a connection of some kind. as i'm sure he's able to connect with others on that same level.
    This isn't the land of opportunity, it's the land of competition.
  • freaked out? the shit i've seen and done there's nothing your dad's jesus-fire-and-brimstone nonsense could do to me.
    i'm not even talking about jesus.

    you seem to have some kind of dark experiences in the past with church or something.... cause you always sneak it in when it's completely irrelevant.
    This isn't the land of opportunity, it's the land of competition.
  • Posts: 5,515
    well, there's definitely a connection of some kind. as i'm sure he's able to connect with others on that same level.

    There are no levels in spirituality. In spirituality those who seek are those who find...

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  • gue_barium wrote:
    There are no levels in spirituality. In spirituality those who seek are those who find...
    then i guess you mean to say, like for example, the people who've had these types of "connections" were the one's seeking?
    This isn't the land of opportunity, it's the land of competition.
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    i'm not even talking about jesus.

    you seem to have some kind of dark experiences in the past with church or something.... cause you always sneak it in when it's completely irrelevant.

    nevermind. glad you dig your dad and all.
  • Posts: 12,225
    Ahnimus wrote:
    What is you reason for your belief in spirits and/or souls?

    What evidence supports your belief?

    What is the logical steps taken to this conclusion?
    ...
    Here's my take...
    I believe that we possess a spirit.. an energy that is life. The soul is the conscience of the spirit and you fill with your life experiences... your loves, your hates... your caring and your selfishness.... your forgiveness and your vengance. I try to fill my soul with those positive things.
    You all know by now that I reject religion. That whole concept of paying hommage to a god through the conduit of a church... which operates from a set of rules and doctrines written by Men to support a system that relys on monetary gains.
    Religion tends to tie actions or deeds with rewards in order to make its keep. People say they are good and do good deeds in order to get into Heaven. The reward is Heaven... doesn't that mean that good deeds are done with conditions tied to them? Why not do good things just because they are good things to do?
    So, the way I'm operating... I'm letting go of God. I'm going to be the judge of me when I die. Why? Because I am the only one who knows me... knows when I'm lying... or feeling hatred towards others. People can bullshit other people... and I think those people truely think they'll be able to bullshit God. That's why I'm leaving God out of the Judgement Business. I don't know if God is watching over me... but, I know that I am. I cannot make confessions to myself and forgive mysel so I can reload and take pot shots at people again. I have to live with me and I accept all of my failures and make no excuses for them.
    I don't know what happens when we die... do we pass to another level on consciousness or do we pass into a void? I don't know.. and I know that no one here knows. All i do know is that I've got this short period here and now and i'm not going to squander it away worrying about what happens afterwards. I don't do things that I do in order for the reward of getting into an exclusive club after I die... I do things simply because I feel they are the right things to do.
    And if I can carry on in this manner... I can feel secure in my life and my soul.
    ...
    And in the end.. if God is the Judge and I was supposed to spend my life worshpipping Him in church on Sunday... meeting His demands that I love Him. Well, He's not the unconditional loving God I made Him out to be... but, at least my soul will know how i spent my life.
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  • i see. you have made a career of defending the faith here, said in this thread you try to model your father, and brag about how people come for miles to hear him preach, and then you tell me his moralizing had nothing to do with the situation you described?
    is this a rhetorical question of somekind or are you looking for an answer? cause while we're here talking about spirits/souls.... the attributes and experiences i've found with my family and friends are great way to approach the topic. it comes closer to home. i'm not trying to preach here. just sharing.... sorry if it bothers you. if you want i'll stop posting.
    This isn't the land of opportunity, it's the land of competition.

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