A question of spirits/souls
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deadnothingbetter wrote:i'm not. i was just saying. i don't care dude. i wasn't even going to respond to any of your posts. it doesn't even matter to me. you know what i mean? i'm just here making conversation, yes about my dad. the tone of your post sound oddly bitter and very attacking most times. not that it matters though... cause i think i sound like that too sometimes. yes, you're weird.
hey..... if you can poke fun.... so can i.
You see a lot of yourself in your Dad. Identity can be a bitch, sometimes. That you find admirable, if not questionable qualities in one so intricately woven into your own existence is nothing less than what spiritual is.
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deadnothingbetter wrote:i'm not. i was just saying. i don't care dude. i wasn't even going to respond to any of your posts. it doesn't even matter to me. you know what i mean? i'm just here making conversation, yes about my dad. the tone of your post sound oddly bitter and very attacking most times. not that it matters though... cause i think i sound like that too sometimes. yes, you're weird.
hey..... if you can poke fun.... so can i.
fair enough man. just seemed kinda fruity the way you said everyone your dad talks to cries like a teenage girl at an nsync concert.0 -
soulsinging wrote:fair enough man. just seemed kinda fruity the way you said everyone your dad talks to cries like a teenage girl at an nsync concert.
C'mon, you've never cried at something touching and profound?
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gue_barium wrote:I think he was just expressing an appreciation...
C'mon, you've never cried at something touching and profound?
nope. not that i recall. and it's cool if that's what he was doing, i was just calling him on the hyperbole and he kept insisting it wasn't. if he'd said "yeah ok, maybe you wouldn't spontaneously burst into tears just by shaking his hand, but he's an amazing guy" that woulda been the end. but he kept on with the "no way man! my dad is so cool! it's all true! you'd cry dude, swear to god!"0 -
soulsinging wrote:nope. not that i recall. and it's cool if that's what he was doing, i was just calling him on the hyperbole and he kept insisting it wasn't. if he'd said "yeah ok, maybe you wouldn't spontaneously burst into tears just by shaking his hand, but he's an amazing guy" that woulda been the end. but he kept on with the "no way man! my dad is so cool! it's all true! you'd cry dude, swear to god!"
By AMT standards, I suppose I can concur with you that it was a bit TMI. He should have expected the backlash. Then again, he's just being himself on a topic that we are all a part of.
We all have our Dads.
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soulsinging wrote:nope. not that i recall. and it's cool if that's what he was doing, i was just calling him on the hyperbole and he kept insisting it wasn't. if he'd said "yeah ok, maybe you wouldn't spontaneously burst into tears just by shaking his hand, but he's an amazing guy" that woulda been the end. but he kept on with the "no way man! my dad is so cool! it's all true! you'd cry dude, swear to god!"This isn't the land of opportunity, it's the land of competition.0
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deadnothingbetter wrote:no i didn't dude. i said i don't care... you're such a liar.
Soulsinging is a firecracker who's Dad has a bigger 'pop' than your Pop.
Hehee.
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soulsinging wrote:fair enough man. just seemed kinda fruity the way you said everyone your dad talks to cries like a teenage girl at an nsync concert.This isn't the land of opportunity, it's the land of competition.0
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deadnothingbetter wrote:it was a figure of speech.
that's what i thought. did the mexican mobster throw down his guns embrace your dad's knees and renounce all violence before joining a seminary?0 -
i have always thought of, and thus believed...as soul/spirit...to be your inner *life force*...that which IS life, in you.Stay with me...
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow0 -
soulsinging wrote:that's what i thought. did the mexican mobster throw down his guns embrace your dad's knees and renounce all violence before joining a seminary?This isn't the land of opportunity, it's the land of competition.0
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Jeanie wrote:But the "essence" or "presence" of who she was, or is, it lives on inside me. I realize that to you that would be simply all that I have "learned" of her during my life but I do believe it is more than that. To me a "soul" is the essence of a person.
wonderful words Jeanie, i specifically took those couple of sentences of your text so that they can stand out.0 -
deadnothingbetter wrote:no.... he just got freaked out. like i'm sure you would. hehe
freaked out? the shit i've seen and done there's nothing your dad's jesus-fire-and-brimstone nonsense could do to me.0 -
gue_barium wrote:You see a lot of yourself in your Dad. Identity can be a bitch, sometimes. That you find admirable, if not questionable qualities in one so intricately woven into your own existence is nothing less than what spiritual is.This isn't the land of opportunity, it's the land of competition.0
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soulsinging wrote:freaked out? the shit i've seen and done there's nothing your dad's jesus-fire-and-brimstone nonsense could do to me.
you seem to have some kind of dark experiences in the past with church or something.... cause you always sneak it in when it's completely irrelevant.This isn't the land of opportunity, it's the land of competition.0 -
deadnothingbetter wrote:well, there's definitely a connection of some kind. as i'm sure he's able to connect with others on that same level.
There are no levels in spirituality. In spirituality those who seek are those who find...
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gue_barium wrote:There are no levels in spirituality. In spirituality those who seek are those who find...This isn't the land of opportunity, it's the land of competition.0
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deadnothingbetter wrote:i'm not even talking about jesus.
you seem to have some kind of dark experiences in the past with church or something.... cause you always sneak it in when it's completely irrelevant.
nevermind. glad you dig your dad and all.0 -
Ahnimus wrote:What is you reason for your belief in spirits and/or souls?
What evidence supports your belief?
What is the logical steps taken to this conclusion?
Here's my take...
I believe that we possess a spirit.. an energy that is life. The soul is the conscience of the spirit and you fill with your life experiences... your loves, your hates... your caring and your selfishness.... your forgiveness and your vengance. I try to fill my soul with those positive things.
You all know by now that I reject religion. That whole concept of paying hommage to a god through the conduit of a church... which operates from a set of rules and doctrines written by Men to support a system that relys on monetary gains.
Religion tends to tie actions or deeds with rewards in order to make its keep. People say they are good and do good deeds in order to get into Heaven. The reward is Heaven... doesn't that mean that good deeds are done with conditions tied to them? Why not do good things just because they are good things to do?
So, the way I'm operating... I'm letting go of God. I'm going to be the judge of me when I die. Why? Because I am the only one who knows me... knows when I'm lying... or feeling hatred towards others. People can bullshit other people... and I think those people truely think they'll be able to bullshit God. That's why I'm leaving God out of the Judgement Business. I don't know if God is watching over me... but, I know that I am. I cannot make confessions to myself and forgive mysel so I can reload and take pot shots at people again. I have to live with me and I accept all of my failures and make no excuses for them.
I don't know what happens when we die... do we pass to another level on consciousness or do we pass into a void? I don't know.. and I know that no one here knows. All i do know is that I've got this short period here and now and i'm not going to squander it away worrying about what happens afterwards. I don't do things that I do in order for the reward of getting into an exclusive club after I die... I do things simply because I feel they are the right things to do.
And if I can carry on in this manner... I can feel secure in my life and my soul.
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And in the end.. if God is the Judge and I was supposed to spend my life worshpipping Him in church on Sunday... meeting His demands that I love Him. Well, He's not the unconditional loving God I made Him out to be... but, at least my soul will know how i spent my life.Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!0 -
soulsinging wrote:i see. you have made a career of defending the faith here, said in this thread you try to model your father, and brag about how people come for miles to hear him preach, and then you tell me his moralizing had nothing to do with the situation you described?This isn't the land of opportunity, it's the land of competition.0
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