A question of spirits/souls
Ahnimus
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What is you reason for your belief in spirits and/or souls?
What evidence supports your belief?
What is the logical steps taken to this conclusion?
What evidence supports your belief?
What is the logical steps taken to this conclusion?
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and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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What is it then?
Some kind of rationality, yes.
Isn't that circular?
the only thing i can tell you is that there are certain feelings, like for instance when we get scared, or when we feel a strong vibe of love. it's either a positive or negative feeling. all these are attributes of spirit. of course, you'll deny it by explaining the chemicals in the brain.
so it's like a two-way street. no one wins.
Peace
Dan
"Every judgment teeters on the brink of error. To claim absolute knowledge is to become monstrous. Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty." - Frank Herbert, Dune, 1965
a rather sudden and complete psychic shift causing a massive change in my personality a little over 2 years ago. i don't know if i believe in spirits or souls per se, but it certainly defies any scientific explanation i am aware of.
life experiences.
The reason I believe in souls is that I can see them and feel them.
Can't you?
What would science be without a spoken and written language?
How would a determinist describe "making love?"
If the spoken-written language is only a science founded in determinism, does 'no' sometimes mean 'yes'?
If a brilliant individual illuminated a new idea to you, could that individual be considered a "brilliant soul"?
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A sensitive person tends to get the most out of their emotions and feelings. Now if you mix that with enlightenment, you get a person who realizes that other people have the same emotions and feelings as they do.
Now enlightenment comes in many forms; meaning not all at once. That's kind of beside the point though. It's the connection between people we're really after. Like what eV. talks about with the fans/set list.
Now if your still following I'll try and wrap it up. Sensitivity + a sense of enlightenment = Connection. Connection = a sense of oneness. Sense of oneness = unexplainable. Unexplainable = unscientific explanation = ghosts, spirits, souls.
I think.
you wanna see a spiritual man??? meet my dad.... he'll talk to you and for a half-hour with him you'll start shedding tears like a little baby. true story. only if i were half the man he is.... i'd really be someone.
Dude, he's known you since before you knew yourself. You give him too much credit.
IMHO.
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Sure, okay, he's a great guy.
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i rather doubt that.
that meeting anyone, no matter how much ass they kick, would make me shed tears. does he inspire his own form of beatlemania everywhere he goes? people hyperventilating and weeping and reaching out just to touch him when he walks by? come on!
do you ever watch everybody loves raymond?
remember the priest? not that my dad's a priest... but whenever the entire family is arguing and making a bunch of noise.... the priest just waits till everybody quiets down and once he speaks everybody's listening. and for once everybody understands each other... but it only lasts while he's talking.
that's a character my dad has. that's all i'm saying. my dad ain't no icon.... just saying he's a simple guy, nothing spectacular. it's just good to know that there are very few good people around in this world. that's all i'm saying.
he's got his share of errors... but it only makes it much more real. cause it gives you a shade of hope that living a good life, no matter what, can still be attainable. that's what i was trying to say.
now, you come on! (whatever that means)
The Bible, I suppose. I think some of Paul's writings imply we have something that survives death of the body. As far as a concrete defintion as to what exactly that "substance" is , well, I don't have one....
Nothing empirical.
Uh, I suppose the "logical steps" COULD be me believing 1)what the Bible teaches is true, 2) the Bible teaches humans have souls, C) it is therefore true humans have souls (or some kind of reasoning along those lines).
Note, I'm not proposing this as an argument for the existence of souls; this won't win any one over to Christian doctrine (there would be too much to debate about concerning the premises) But you asked about logical steps that led to my belief, and this is an example.
you said that within an hour of speaking to your dad ill start shedding tears like a little baby. i said i doubt that.
i hate everybody loves raymond.
i'm sure your dad's a great guy, but i i found the hyperbolic praise a little funny.