Christian Domestic Discipline

deadnothingbetter · September 2007

soulsinging wrote:

creationism and end-of-days believer.

is that what a christian fundamentalist is?

lalalalaaaaaaaa · September 2007

That's a great site. Ann Friedman rules. I'd totally let her spank me without consent.

Collin · September 2007

deadnothingbetter wrote:

is that what a christian fundamentalist is?

fundamentalism
noun
the belief in old and traditional forms of religion, or the belief that what is written in a holy book, such as the Christian Bible, is completely true:
(cambridge dictionary)

2 : a movement or attitude stressing strict and literal adherence to a set of basic principles
(webster)

So yes, creationists would be fundamentalists.

deadnothingbetter · September 2007

Collin wrote:

fundamentalism
noun
the belief in old and traditional forms of religion, or the belief that what is written in a holy book, such as the Christian Bible, is completely true:
(cambridge dictionary)

2 : a movement or attitude stressing strict and literal adherence to a set of basic principles
(webster)

So yes, creationists would be fundamentalists.

what's a creationist?

jamtemplechains · September 2007

deadnothingbetter wrote:

what's a creationist?

a creationist is essentially someone who rejects the notion of evolution and scientific explaination for the universe in lieu of the literal interpretation of god creating plantets, solar systems, and galaxies in a little under a week...

Kevin Davis · September 2007

Here's a question, and I'm not trying to provoke here: if creationism is false, how does one scientifically explain the idea of something coming from nothing? I mean, if there is no God, no higher being, then the world should be completely explainable on purely human terms, right? Which is to say, science. Which means, something couldn't have come from nothing?

Inquiring minds and all. TIA.

Collin · September 2007

Kevin Davis wrote:

Here's a question, and I'm not trying to provoke here: if creationism is false, how does one scientifically explain the idea of something coming from nothing?

One doesn't. Not yet anyway. We don't have an answer (yet).

I mean, if there is no God, no higher being, then the world should be completely explainable on purely human terms, right? Which is to say, science.

In time... We have discovered many things and there are many things we haven't discovered yet. Just because we don't know what it is right now doesn't mean god is the right answer and it doesn't mean god is the wrong answer either.

Which means, something couldn't have come from nothing?

Well, Hawkings seems to believe something came from "nothing" and so did Newton.

How did this thread about spanking naughty Christian wifes turn into this?

:D

decides2dream · September 2007

while nothing really ceases to amaze me....none the less......

"A Christian Domestic Discipline marriage is one that is set up according to Biblical standards; that is, the husband is the authority in the household. The wife is submissive to her husband as is fit in the Lord and her husband loves her as himself. He has the ultimate authority in his household, but it is tempered with the knowledge that he must answer to God for his actions and decisions. He has the authority to spank his wife for punishment, but in real CDD marriages this is taken very seriously and usually happens only rarely. CDD is so much more than just spanking. It is the husband loving the wife enough to guide and teach her, and the wife loving the husband enough to follow his leadership. A Christian marriage embodies true romance and a Christian man a true hero."

:eek:

seriously, what can i say beyond the IDEA of one partner having *authority* over the other...is just...well....fucked? a relationship...a marriage, to me....should be about SHARING, a partnership...and no one person has *authortiy*...yikes! such language offends/sickens me...i bristle against such language.

however, bottomline...if two CONSENTING adults are in this relationship.... i truly can find no *fault*. if a woman is happy in such a situation is not, nor feels, abused...who am i to tell her/them to live their lives? all i know is there is NO WAY it would be a choice for me. *shudders* and while on some level it sadens me that a woman should feel subservient to her husband simply b/c of their marital roles/genders.....it's still a choice...and her/stheirs to make.

c'est la vie.

deadnothingbetter · September 2007

jamtemplechains wrote:

a creationist is essentially someone who rejects the notion of evolution and scientific explaination for the universe in lieu of the literal interpretation of god creating plantets, solar systems, and galaxies in a little under a week...

i always thought creationism, or a creationist, was someone who not only rejected the notion of evolution and scientific explainations but who also studied the universe in ways that they believe can prove the existence of God, rather than basing the existence of God, ultimately the existence of the universe, on faith.

i don't lean towards those beliefs. i do not believe that you can prove that there is a God and ultimately prove that this God created the universe. I believe all of those things are matters and questions of faith.

deadnothingbetter · September 2007

decides2dream wrote:

:eek:

seriously, what can i say beyond the IDEA of one partner having *authority* over the other...is just...well....fucked? a relationship...a marriage, to me....should be about SHARING, a partnership...and no one person has *authortiy*...yikes! such language offends/sickens me...i bristle against such language.

however, bottomline...if two CONSENTING adults are in this relationship.... i truly can find no *fault*. if a woman is happy in such a situation is not, nor feels, abused...who am i to tell her/them to live their lives? all i know is there is NO WAY it would be a choice for me. *shudders* and while on some level it sadens me that a woman should feel subservient to her husband simply b/c of their marital roles/genders.....it's still a choice...and her/stheirs to make.

c'est la vie.

you're right. i agree

deadnothingbetter · September 2007

Collin wrote:

How did this thread about spanking naughty Christian wifes turn into this? :D

it's my fault.

LoveRock333 · September 2007

The Southern Baptist Convention is this thing: The needlessly crazy thing.

It is also the following things: Homophobic, intolerant, sexist, and, worst of all, very powerful...

I say: No more tax breaks for religious groups. Take out the Baptists and Scientologists in one deft swoop.

Cosmo · September 2007

know1 wrote:

Just because someone attaches the word "Christian" to something, doesn't mean that it's really a Christian concept.

I often believe that sometimes people who truly oppose Christianity start these things and label them as Christian just to create a backlash against religion.

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Who gets to say who is a 'Real Christian' and who isn't? Someone can truely believe in their hearts that they are adhering to Christian tenents... who gets to decide for them what they should and shouldn't believe in and follow?

chopitdown · September 2007

Cosmo wrote:

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Who gets to say who is a 'Real Christian' and who isn't? Someone can truely believe in their hearts that they are adhering to Christian tenents... who gets to decide for them what they should and shouldn't believe in and follow?

me. it'll now be easier and less confusing for everybody

Cosmo · September 2007

chopitdown wrote:

me. it'll now be easier and less confusing for everybody

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That's great. There NEEDS to be someone in charge... I'll go with you as the ultimate source.
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But, seriously... I get this all the time... the whole, "But they're not really Christians..." response to all these 'Christians' who do creepy things in the name of their Lord. They also do good things... so, who's to say?
The Christians need a Pope or something.

chopitdown · September 2007

Cosmo wrote:

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That's great. There NEEDS to be someone in charge... I'll go with you as the ultimate source.
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But, seriously... I get this all the time... the whole, "But they're not really Christians..." response to all these 'Christians' who do creepy things in the name of their Lord. They also do good things... so, who's to say?
The Christians need a Pope or something.

What you're asking for is both extremely easy and extremely hard. Most christians agree on the big issues. But what you want, a blanket statement on christianity you won't get. There are many denominations for a reason. Most are similar in the core belief that Jesus saves...beyond that there are so many variations and interpretations that have been debated and discussed around theological circles for a very long time. I dont' have an easy answer for you and there is no easy answer. I guess you'd have to evaluate if something is Christian by the complete personhood of Christ and the complete makeup of the Bible. I would not evaluate if something is christian based on the actions of people who proclaim christiandom (word???) Then you are basing Christians on something flawed (humans) not something believed to be inerrant.

deadnothingbetter · September 2007

chopitdown wrote:

What you're asking for is both extremely easy and extremely hard. Most christians agree on the big issues. But what you want, a blanket statement on christianity you won't get. There are many denominations for a reason. Most are similar in the core belief that Jesus saves...beyond that there are so many variations and interpretations that have been debated and discussed around theological circles for a very long time. I dont' have an easy answer for you and there is no easy answer. I guess you'd have to evaluate if something is Christian by the complete personhood of Christ and the complete makeup of the Bible. I would not evaluate if something is christian based on the actions of people who proclaim christiandom (word???) Then you are basing Christians on something flawed (humans) not something believed to be inerrant.

cosmo is right. anybody can be a christian if they wanted to. the problem is that chrisitianity isn't something that the bible is even concerned about.

chopitdown · September 2007

deadnothingbetter wrote:

cosmo is right. anybody can be a christian if they wanted to. the problem is that chrisitianity isn't something that the bible is even concerned about.

The message of Christianity should echo what the bible teaches. I would say that anyone can SAY they are a christian if they want to but not everyone who says that is a christian...that is where the difference and the difficulty is.

Cosmo · September 2007

deadnothingbetter wrote:

cosmo is right. anybody can be a christian if they wanted to. the problem is that chrisitianity isn't something that the bible is even concerned about.

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Yeah... because those 'God Hates Fags' people call themselves 'Christians'... and probably believe in their heart of hearts that they are righteous in their beliefs, opinions and actions.
Who are we to say they are wrong just because we strongly disagree with them and believe their words and actions are horrible? Doesn't the Bible say that God, indeed, hates Fags? Well, maybe not in so many words... maybe they should change their signs to read, "God Abhors Fags".

deadnothingbetter · September 2007

chopitdown wrote:

The message of Christianity should echo what the bible teaches. I would say that anyone can SAY they are a christian if they want to but not everyone who says that is a christian...that is where the difference and the difficulty is.

you have to understand that christianity doesn't always echo what the bible says. consider the catholics.... they have a countless amount of things that are unbiblical... do i consider them false christians? not at all. christians is what they are.... christians is what they have always been.

the word christianity and being called a christian is nothing near as important as being called a child of God. if you can't understand that, then what profit is it to be called a christian?

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