Christian Domestic Discipline

blackredyellow

soulsinging wrote:

well now at least we know why juberoo is always so angry...

QuarterToTen

hippiemom wrote:

It just cracks me up that they have to dress their kink in religion.

exactly. and a thinly veiled attempt at that.
quite a common occurence amongst religious fanatics apparently.

wow.

69charger

hippiemom wrote:

I myself am speechless, but I'm sure this will generate some amusing comments from the rest of you

I'm still pissed they got the right to vote!

deadnothingbetter

blackredyellow wrote:

But the vagueness of the bible and the vastly different interpretations of the religion make this as much of a "christian concept" (at least to those people who practice it) as anything else. Without wading too far into the normal divisive subjects around here, liberal christians may view acceptance of gays, or environmentally-friendly things as christian concepts, but more orthodox christians don't.

not true.

of course i can't prove that to you, unless you'd really hear what i have to say. the bible never praises homosexuality in any way.... many people just use the bible for their own benefit and make it mean certain things that support their lifestyles. others say that it's hard to understand so it's widely open to interpretation... and i can understand that concept, to a certain degree though. the bible is fairly undersandable... if you and i were to read the bible together, i'd assure you, through common sense and discussion we can come to agree about it's teachings.... not that we'll agree, per se, in the teachings, but rather agree that it means the same thing.

i've heard many pentecostals discuss with many trinitarians and baptists about baptism.... pentecostals baptize in "jesus name" as opposed to baptists and trinitarians, they baptize in the "name of the father, son and holy spirit" you can say, "see, all religions disagree." but if you hear them discuss these things, a pentecostal will say, "the apostles and disciples of jesus all baptized in the name of jesus christ. where do you come up with the idea that we should baptize in the name of the father, the son and holy spirit." a baptist, or trinitarian would say, "you're absolutely right. but it's become a part of the tradition. frankly, we wouldn't want to change it."

i know i'm going out of topic here, but i'm just showing you how many people know for certain that they're not using the scriptures strictly as it's written. that's why there's all these confusions between different denominations. it's really not that complicated when you look into it. but of course not like you care.

deadnothingbetter

Collin wrote:

Like a conspiracy?

These people are most likely christians and they do think it's a Christian concept, whatever that it.

That's the thing about religion, all these christian groups disagree with each other and they can all cite verses from the bible to prove they are right. That doesn't necessarily mean they are right.

But the old "but that's not a "real" christian" is a cop-out.

that's true.

but i bet you that these folks who support spanking their wives wouldn't find a single scripture to prove they should. these guys are nuts.

Bu2

deadnothingbetter wrote:

not true.

of course i can't prove that to you, unless you'd really hear what i have to say. the bible never praises homosexuality in any way.... many people just use the bible for their own benefit and make it mean certain things that support their lifestyles. others say that it's hard to understand so it's widely open to interpretation... and i can understand that concept, to a certain degree though. the bible is fairly undersandable... if you and i were to read the bible together, i'd assure you, through common sense and discussion we can come to agree about it's teachings.... not that we'll agree, per se, in the teachings, but rather agree that it means the same thing.

i've heard many pentecostals discuss with many trinitarians and baptists about baptism.... pentecostals baptize in "jesus name" as opposed to baptists and trinitarians, they baptize in the "name of the father, son and holy spirit" you can say, "see, all religions disagree." but if you hear them discuss these things, a pentecostal will say, "the apostles and disciples of jesus all baptized in the name of jesus christ. where do you come up with the idea that we should baptize in the name of the father, the son and holy spirit." a baptist, or trinitarian would say, "you're absolutely right. but it's become a part of the tradition. frankly, we wouldn't want to change it."

i know i'm going out of topic here, but i'm just showing you how many people know for certain that they're not using the scriptures strictly as it's written. that's why there's all these confusions between different denominations. it's really not that complicated when you look into it. but of course not like you care.

and I can't help but get the feeling that "Lord" and "God" are two separate beings, sometimes. I also can't help but wonder about the "wrath" and "righteous anger" of God, who wants to smash us like pottery when "He" is angry.

That being said, I love a good spanking from my man now and then. Especially when I'm wearing my black garter belt and stockings.

deadnothingbetter

Bu2 wrote:

and I can't help but get the feeling that "Lord" and "God" are two separate beings, sometimes. I also can't help but wonder about the "wrath" and "righteous anger" of God, who wants to smash us like pottery when "He" is angry.

That being said, I love a good spanking from my man now and then. Especially when I'm wearing my black garter belt and stockings.

everything you said has nothing to do with what i said.

Bu2

deadnothingbetter wrote:

everything you said has nothing to do with what i said.

mean it to.

deadnothingbetter

Bu2 wrote:

mean it to.

oh ok

RolandTD20Kdrummer

I prefer over the knee panties on...slight blushing of the bottom...nothing too extreme..but none too easy either

Juberoo

soulsinging wrote:

well now at least we know why juberoo is always so angry...

excuse me, but you are crossing the posting guidelines. Personal insults are not allowed, remember? Mr. PL.

Oh and btw...are you really generalizing ALL Christians as wife beaters?

Juberoo

know1 wrote:

Just because someone attaches the word "Christian" to something, doesn't mean that it's really a Christian concept.

I often believe that sometimes people who truly oppose Christianity start these things and label them as Christian just to create a backlash against religion.

agreed. This is nothing more than twisted, male dominated thinking. Comparable to Mormon Polygamy.

The bible says the husband should "treat his wife as his own flesh". So is he going to beat himself after he finishes punishing his wife?

jamtemplechains

yes, a lot of christian fundies do a lot of crazy shit. but fundamentalists from any other major worldview or religion also do a lot of crazy shit. while prefacing my next statement with the fact that i subscribe to no organized religion whatsoever, it seems that in these kinds of forums christianity tends to take a bit more guff than any others. can't we all just come to agree that ANY fundamentalist from ANY group of people is probably an obnoxious and overbearing asshole? visit any other country--or even outskirt community here in the states--that has a majority of it's citizens who subscribe to a religion besides christianity, and just try to see if the fundamentalist groups from said religion don't have some pretty goddamn wacky tendencies and behaviors.

deadnothingbetter

jamtemplechains wrote:

yes, a lot of christian fundies do a lot of crazy shit. but fundamentalists from any other major worldview or religion also do a lot of crazy shit. while prefacing my next statement with the fact that i subscribe to no organized religion whatsoever, it seems that in these kinds of forums christianity tends to take a bit more guff than any others. can't we all just come to agree that ANY fundamentalist from ANY group of people is probably an obnoxious and overbearing asshole? visit any other country--or even outskirt community here in the states--that has a majority of it's citizens who subscribe to a religion besides christianity, and just try to see if the fundamentalist groups from said religion don't have some pretty goddamn wacky tendencies and behaviors.

the way i see it.... whenever people usually speak about these "christian fundamentalists" it's never referring to me. what the hell is a christian fundamentalist anyway?

Juberoo

deadnothingbetter wrote:

the way i see it.... whenever people usually speak about these "christian fundamentalists" it's never referring to me. what the hell is a christian fundamentalist anyway?

a fundamentalist is someone who adheres to and believes in the basic teachings of the bible.

Think fundamental as you would the basics in education.

jamtemplechains

yeah deadnothing, i'm not saying anyone who is a faithful christian is a fundamentalist. i mean, honestly, most of the crazy and quirky religious behaviors people associate with christianity are actually practiced by very few of them.

deadnothingbetter

Juberoo wrote:

a fundamentalist is someone who adheres to and believes in the basic teachings of the bible.

Think fundamental as you would the basics in education.

the way it sounds, coming from all sides, there seems to be a wider definition of a fundamentalist christian. most times they refer to those christians as violating someone's rights. point in case, whipping their wives. if this type of behavior identifies a "christian fundamentalist" than i am not one of those.

someone who adheres to the basic teachings of the bible would know themselves the bible speaks against these things. consider the evangelical preacher who boycotted against gay marriages but then was later discovered that he had his little experience with a male prostitute.

funny, or rather ironic, in romans we read paul speaking out against the vile and sexual perversions in the first chapter and then jump to the next speaks out against those who judges them who practices those things, saying that if they judge it might well be that they practice those things too.

my point is, when someone is referring to a fundamental christian they begin to describe them in ways that wouldn't apply to the good christians out there. they describe them in ways that simply don't apply to me... not that i'm perfect, but i don't practice those radical behaviors.

Juberoo

deadnothingbetter wrote:

the way it sounds, coming from all sides, there seems to be a wider definition of a fundamentalist christian. most times they refer to those christians as violating someone's rights. point in case, whipping their wives. if this type of behavior identifies a "christian fundamentalist" than i am not one of those.

someone who adheres to the basic teachings of the bible would know themselves the bible speaks against these things. consider the evangelical preacher who boycotted against gay marriages but then was later discovered that he had his little experience with a male prostitute.

funny, or rather ironic, in romans we read paul speaking out against the vile and sexual perversions in the first chapter and then jump to the next speaks out against those who judges them who practices those things, saying that if they judge it might well be that they practice those things too.

my point is, when someone is referring to a fundamental christian they begin to describe them in ways that wouldn't apply to the good christians out there. they describe them in ways that simply don't apply to me... not that i'm perfect, but i don't practice those radical behaviors.

That is when the term is used inappropriately.

Say you are strongly against abortion. You could be considered an pro-life fundamentalist. But you lump in the group of people who take protests to extremes and use violence, that doesn't make all pro life fundamentalists violent.

A fundamentalist is someone who believes strongly in a concept, issue or idea. They are fiercely attatched to their belief.

soulsinging

Juberoo wrote:

excuse me, but you are crossing the posting guidelines. Personal insults are not allowed, remember? Mr. PL.

Oh and btw...are you really generalizing ALL Christians as wife beaters?

how is that a personal insult? a personal insult is... what were your words? oh yes "you are a loser." that is an insult. this is a joke of questionable taste based on your own beliefs as expressed on here. try not taking yourself so seriously.

soulsinging

deadnothingbetter wrote:

the way i see it.... whenever people usually speak about these "christian fundamentalists" it's never referring to me. what the hell is a christian fundamentalist anyway?

creationism and end-of-days believer.