Anti-PC Thread

TrixieCat wrote:

lol..I just keep forgetting to reply about the haircut.
I wasn't aware that was one of the rules.
Yes, that is pathetic. lol

see I think that's where we're differing... many of the things you mentioned were PHYSICAL... touching, hanging, etc. I'm not talking about physical stuff. Just because I don't believe in political correctness certainly doesn't mean I think people can go around DOING whatever they want and it doesn't mean I think sexual harrassment is ok. I work with mainly men and I think some women would be offended at some of the things I have to listen to... but when you konw the guys you know that they don't mean ANY harm at all and actually mean it as a compliment :rolleyes: Yeh, I know but that's men for ya, lol, and I can say whatever I want back to them also. But if I were to be all uptight and say 'what do you mean you got 'the woman' to make your dinner for you?' well I'd be a bit of a bollox really... instead I reply something like 'oh yeh, wait til the christmas party and say it in front of her then... we all know who wears the trousers in your house'.

Yes, that is pathetic about the haircut and that IS how far things are going... and THAT'S what I want to put an end to... things going further than they need. This is why there are so many rich lawyers... who do ya think MAKE the laws?

how can you comfort a child without touching them?

Heineken Helen wrote:

what's that got to do with anything?

buying them stuff usually helps

Helen.....spare the rod, spoil the child..;)
This also holds true for, what were you calling them...pressies? <-cute

Over here in the land of the free, home of the most handguns in the world...not many people are allowed to touch another's child. When Holden is in the daycare at my gym, no one can help him in the bathroom. No touchie.
His teacher's can help him if he needs it, though.

Heineken Helen wrote:

what's that got to do with anything?

buying them stuff usually helps

don't be stupid helen. i know you're not. there's this whole thing about touching kids. teachers(especially male teachers) can't touch children to comfort them because who knows what the intention is. tis ridiculous. any parent, or compassionate person knows children need contact to feel safe. we aren't all perverts copping a feel.

evenkat wrote:

I think the problem is we've gone way too far trying not to offend people that we are actually offending others while doing so. For instance when Wal-Mart banned it's employees from saying Merry Christmas to customers because the customers may be Jewish or of another faith; the employees were told to say happy holidays however by doing so Wal-Mart offended some Catholics and Christians.

The bottom line is NOT everyone gets offended by stereotypes, statements or jokes made about their own race, religion or whatever. Some people have a great sense of humor while others do not. People are different and react differently. We can't make everyone happy. As long as we don't go too far there is no reason we shouldn't be able to joke. Of course the 'too far' will always be debatable.

AGREED... where is the 'too far'? That's the important question? I'm pretty hard to offend... with others there are things you can't say or do that wouldn't even enter the mind of anybody else... some of it is just ridiculous! Where do we draw the line? I would hate to think people couldn't say what they want to me for fear of offending. Don't get me started on the christmas thing :eek: It's always been a magical time of the year and these days it's mostly about the kids... what's wrong with that? Try explaining to a kid why they can't get a pressie for Christmas? I'm not going to tell my kid that santa's not real... because I have a muslim neighbour who's an ADULT!

Heineken Helen wrote:

AGREED... where is the 'too far'? That's the important question? I'm pretty hard to offend... with others there are things you can't say or do that wouldn't even enter the mind of anybody else... some of it is just ridiculous! Where do we draw the line? I would hate to think people couldn't say what they want to me for fear of offending. Don't get me started on the christmas thing :eek: It's always been a magical time of the year and these days it's mostly about the kids... what's wrong with that? Try explaining to a kid why they can't get a pressie for Christmas?

But if they don't celebrate Christmas, why would they need a pressie????
Give the kid a pressie whenever you feel like it. Some dude in a red suit doesn't need to bring it. Have the Forest Fairy bring it or the Magical Tuesday Morning Mouse.

Heineken Helen wrote:

well that's true of course... but don't tell me that I can't give my kid a gift at this one time of the year just cos it's something YOU don't believe in. If you feel bad for your kid being left out, let them be involved. It's easy for a kid to be involved in christmas without having to know there's anything religious about it at all.

Seriously, do you really think that because there's one jehovah's witness kid in a class of say 20 Catholics/Christians that the other 19 should have to give up on one of the best times of the year for them?

quite frankly i'd be happy with the abolition of christmas altogether. but maybe thats just my atheist heart speaking.

Heineken Helen wrote:

: ( awww why! Think of all the happy kiddies and the pressies and the fairylights and the snow and the fabulous food and the mulled wine and the getting together and the tinsel and the fun and the laughter and the drinking... what could POSSIBLY be wrong with any of that? only in todays world I tell ya could that be a bad thing

oh please. :rolleyes: tis bullshit and you know it. deluding children. and snow?come on the first christmas had no snow. tis purely a european invention. and i dont need an excuse to drink, as an irish person you can understand that right helen? i won't be railroaded into some commercial exercise.

did i mention ive been drinking all night?

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evenkat wrote:

WHAT? Santa's not real?

Not sure what you're saying. Are you trying to give a Muslim kid a Christmas pressie?

Yep, that's exactly what I'm talking about, lol. What I'm saying is people use the kids in these arguments ALL the time... oh this kid feels left out... this kid doens't do things that way so we can't do it that way. Fact is... it's ALL adults fucking it up for the kids. I hate hearing this kids arguments... like 'oh little Jehovah's parents can't (or won't) give him a present... so nobody's allowed give their kid a pressie' :rolleyes: gimme a bloody break!