police in Oueens..........

SPEEDY MCCREADY
SPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 27,051
edited November 2006 in A Moving Train
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/11/25/nyc.shooting.ap/index.html
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  • Scratchin a Letter
    Scratchin a Letter Posts: 2,303
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/11/25/nyc.shooting.ap/index.html
    Fucking hell.

    'To protect and seveR'

    Fuck the po-lice..Fuck-Fuck-Fuck those po-lice
  • Vedderlution_Baby
    Vedderlution_Baby Posts: 2,535
    51 times is a bit excessive isnt it?
  • Vedderlution_Baby
    Vedderlution_Baby Posts: 2,535
    oh! and dont these guys take a shooting test? They were aiming for a car but ended up hitting houses and other things in the process? I understand about acting in the heat of the moment, but if your training does not allow you to make level headed decisions, which include where to aim, then you shouldnt be out there.
  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    Vedderlution_Baby! wrote:
    oh! and dont these guys take a shooting test? They were aiming for a car but ended up hitting houses and other things in the process? I understand about acting in the heat of the moment, but if your training does not allow you to make level headed decisions, which include where to aim, then you shouldnt be out there.

    Cops have a notoriously inept record when discharging their firearms under stress. In fact, they are lucky when they hit anywhere near where they aim. There have been a number of studies done, and it is abysmal.

    As for the "veteran" officer who unloaded 31 shots, he should be brought up on reckless endangerment charges, since I'm guessing most of his 31 shots were strays.
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  • Vedderlution_Baby
    Vedderlution_Baby Posts: 2,535
    jeffbr wrote:
    Cops have a notoriously inept record when discharging their firearms under stress. In fact, they are lucky when they hit anywhere near where they aim. There have been a number of studies done, and it is abysmal.

    As for the "veteran" officer who unloaded 31 shots, he should be brought up on reckless endangerment charges, since I'm guessing most of his 31 shots were strays.


    Why isn't their training sufficeint enough to help them handle situations that expose them to a very high level of stress? I mean, if you're issued a firearm for your job, training like that should be the norm.
  • chopitdown
    chopitdown Posts: 2,222
    Vedderlution_Baby! wrote:
    Why isn't their training sufficeint enough to help them handle situations that expose them to a very high level of stress? I mean, if you're issued a firearm for your job, training like that should be the norm.

    b/c in training you know in the back of your mind that it's not real, no matter how realistic you make it. They are trained, but until you get in a real situation you have no idea how good the training is.
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  • Vedderlution_Baby
    Vedderlution_Baby Posts: 2,535
    chopitdown wrote:
    b/c in training you know in the back of your mind that it's not real, no matter how realistic you make it. They are trained, but until you get in a real situation you have no idea how good the training is.


    good point
  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    Not a lot of information to go on, so we don't know exactly what happened here, but there are two things I DO know:

    1. 51 shots, spraying an entire neighborhood, is seriously excessive.

    2. No good will come of Al Sharpton's involvement.
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  • chopitdown
    chopitdown Posts: 2,222
    hippiemom wrote:
    Not a lot of information to go on, so we don't know exactly what happened here, but there are two things I DO know:

    1. 51 shots, spraying an entire neighborhood, is seriously excessive.

    2. No good will come of Al Sharpton's involvement.

    this doesn't happen often, but i agree wholeheartedly :)
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  • RavennaSeattle1911
    RavennaSeattle1911 Posts: 478
    new york are scum liberals who let them have police state and they hate the citizens right to own a handgun-same with uk
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  • Vedderlution_Baby
    Vedderlution_Baby Posts: 2,535
    RavennaSeattle1911 wrote:
    new york are scum liberals who let them have police state and they hate the citizens right to own a handgun-same with uk


    what the hell?
  • Dino283
    Dino283 Posts: 81
    RavennaSeattle1911 wrote:
    new york are scum liberals who let them have police state and they hate the citizens right to own a handgun-same with uk
    yea u got that right.I aint never been to new york city but i know for sure I aint never gonna go there... It's full off America hater's and hippie's and shit.Not the USA imo
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    to be livin here today.
    ‘Cause the flag still stands for freedom,
    and they can’t take that away.

    And I’m proud to be an American,
    where at least I know I’m free.
    And I wont forget the men who died,
    who gave that right to me.
  • RavennaSeattle1911
    RavennaSeattle1911 Posts: 478
    actually i doubt if id like mobile much either-maybe savanah
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  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    hippiemom wrote:
    2. No good will come of Al Sharpton's involvement.
    Noooooo shit!:D
  • Vedderlution_Baby
    Vedderlution_Baby Posts: 2,535
    Dino283 wrote:
    yea u got that right.I aint never been to new york city but i know for sure I aint never gonna go there... It's full off America hater's and hippie's and shit.Not the USA imo


    Yea, you're right. It's only the location for the most popular american symbol...the statue of liberty. By the way, why are we in a war on terror if the WTC wasn't an attack on american soil? You, Dino, are not american. You, my friend, are not one for democracy. You do not accept others if they think differently than you. America is a melting pot. You want an America that thinks just like you. That is unamerican.
  • QuarterToTen
    QuarterToTen Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 3,652
    i can't imagine being a law enforcement officer in new york city, or any city for that matter. they are trained to handle situations like this, but as stated the reaction to real danger cannot be predicted.

    51 shots spraying neighbooring homes is quite excessive, but i think more information needs to be made available before any conclusions can be drawn.

    al sharpton is a decietful egomaniac and should just be quiet....forever.
    Nice shirt.
  • SPEEDY MCCREADY
    SPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 27,051
    excessive force???

    i think running over the cop who is on foot with a fucking car is excessive force.........
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  • Vedderlution_Baby
    Vedderlution_Baby Posts: 2,535
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    excessive force???

    i think running over the cop who is on foot with a fucking car is excessive force.........


    Well no shit. But how many bullets you gotta pump into a motherfucker to make sure he's dead?
  • chopitdown
    chopitdown Posts: 2,222
    Vedderlution_Baby! wrote:
    Well no shit. But how many bullets you gotta pump into a motherfucker to make sure he's dead?

    wouldn't that depend on how good a shot you were?
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  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    chopitdown wrote:
    wouldn't that depend on how good a shot you were?

    Yes. Which goes back to my point, that if 1 cop needed to pop off 31 shots, then he's a threat to others. He should be relieved of his gun and assigned to mall security.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08

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