oh! and dont these guys take a shooting test? They were aiming for a car but ended up hitting houses and other things in the process? I understand about acting in the heat of the moment, but if your training does not allow you to make level headed decisions, which include where to aim, then you shouldnt be out there.
oh! and dont these guys take a shooting test? They were aiming for a car but ended up hitting houses and other things in the process? I understand about acting in the heat of the moment, but if your training does not allow you to make level headed decisions, which include where to aim, then you shouldnt be out there.
Cops have a notoriously inept record when discharging their firearms under stress. In fact, they are lucky when they hit anywhere near where they aim. There have been a number of studies done, and it is abysmal.
As for the "veteran" officer who unloaded 31 shots, he should be brought up on reckless endangerment charges, since I'm guessing most of his 31 shots were strays.
"I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
Cops have a notoriously inept record when discharging their firearms under stress. In fact, they are lucky when they hit anywhere near where they aim. There have been a number of studies done, and it is abysmal.
As for the "veteran" officer who unloaded 31 shots, he should be brought up on reckless endangerment charges, since I'm guessing most of his 31 shots were strays.
Why isn't their training sufficeint enough to help them handle situations that expose them to a very high level of stress? I mean, if you're issued a firearm for your job, training like that should be the norm.
Why isn't their training sufficeint enough to help them handle situations that expose them to a very high level of stress? I mean, if you're issued a firearm for your job, training like that should be the norm.
b/c in training you know in the back of your mind that it's not real, no matter how realistic you make it. They are trained, but until you get in a real situation you have no idea how good the training is.
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b/c in training you know in the back of your mind that it's not real, no matter how realistic you make it. They are trained, but until you get in a real situation you have no idea how good the training is.
new york are scum liberals who let them have police state and they hate the citizens right to own a handgun-same with uk
yea u got that right.I aint never been to new york city but i know for sure I aint never gonna go there... It's full off America hater's and hippie's and shit.Not the USA imo
I’d thank my lucky stars,
to be livin here today.
‘Cause the flag still stands for freedom,
and they can’t take that away.
And I’m proud to be an American,
where at least I know I’m free.
And I wont forget the men who died,
who gave that right to me.
yea u got that right.I aint never been to new york city but i know for sure I aint never gonna go there... It's full off America hater's and hippie's and shit.Not the USA imo
Yea, you're right. It's only the location for the most popular american symbol...the statue of liberty. By the way, why are we in a war on terror if the WTC wasn't an attack on american soil? You, Dino, are not american. You, my friend, are not one for democracy. You do not accept others if they think differently than you. America is a melting pot. You want an America that thinks just like you. That is unamerican.
i can't imagine being a law enforcement officer in new york city, or any city for that matter. they are trained to handle situations like this, but as stated the reaction to real danger cannot be predicted.
51 shots spraying neighbooring homes is quite excessive, but i think more information needs to be made available before any conclusions can be drawn.
al sharpton is a decietful egomaniac and should just be quiet....forever.
Yes. Which goes back to my point, that if 1 cop needed to pop off 31 shots, then he's a threat to others. He should be relieved of his gun and assigned to mall security.
"I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
yea u got that right.I aint never been to new york city but i know for sure I aint never gonna go there... It's full off America hater's and hippie's and shit.Not the USA imo
fascinating. were you saying that on sept. 11, 2001?
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Well no shit. But how many bullets you gotta pump into a motherfucker to make sure he's dead?
Enough. The correct answer is enough.
I once saw a guy who was shot through the heart...TWICE...and was able to keep going for another minute because he was so wired up on PCP. It was one of the most disturbing things I have ever seen in my life.
He was shot 14 times...kept coming for another minute.
Being very close to law enforcement i didnt want to respond, but feel i have too.
A. The Cops overreacted and should definetly be stripped of their badges and/or brought up on charges.
B. Al Sharpton does not need to be involved.
c. NYPD is under amazing amounts of stress. They deal with shit that most people only see in movies.
d. As for not being trained well; think about this. The average nypd starting salary is 26-29k per year. Thats bullshit. You could make more working at Mcdonalds without having to worry about coming home alive or not. With the salary the way it is, your not going to be getting an overabundance of intellectuals in the NYPD. Your more intelligent cops will most likely go to the Suburbs where they can make 90,000 patrolling rich peoples homes.
Being very close to law enforcement i didnt want to respond, but feel i have too.
A. The Cops overreacted and should definetly be stripped of their badges and/or brought up on charges.
B. Al Sharpton does not need to be involved.
c. NYPD is under amazing amounts of stress. They deal with shit that most people only see in movies.
d. As for not being trained well; think about this. The average nypd starting salary is 26-29k per year. Thats bullshit. You could make more working at Mcdonalds without having to worry about coming home alive or not. With the salary the way it is, your not going to be getting an overabundance of intellectuals in the NYPD. Your more intelligent cops will most likely go to the Suburbs where they can make 90,000 patrolling rich peoples homes.
Stop it. You're freaking me out. This is twice in a week.
"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
d. As for not being trained well; think about this. The average nypd starting salary is 26-29k per year. Thats bullshit. You could make more working at Mcdonalds without having to worry about coming home alive or not. With the salary the way it is, your not going to be getting an overabundance of intellectuals in the NYPD. Your more intelligent cops will most likely go to the Suburbs where they can make 90,000 patrolling rich peoples homes.
i agree. but i wonder if 1) you feel the same about teachers, the people we entrust to educate our children, who are paid a pittance and 2) how you propose to pay such an increase in salary with your slavish devotion to cutting taxes?
ill tell you what i want to know (after the nature of this accident) what is the NYPD doing paying FIVE cops to sit in a strip club all day looking for violations?
i agree. but i wonder if 1) you feel the same about teachers, the people we entrust to educate our children, who are paid a pittance and 2) how you propose to pay such an increase in salary with your slavish devotion to cutting taxes?
ill tell you what i want to know (after the nature of this accident) what is the NYPD doing paying FIVE cops to sit in a strip club all day looking for violations?
I feel teachers should make good money but not as good as cops. A police officers work is more stressful than a teachers.
The average nypd starting salary is 26-29k per year. Thats bullshit.
Agreed, but show me a cop who works his/her 40 hours in NYC and calls it a day, and I'll show you a cop who doesn't work in NYC.
Same down here in Baltimore. Base salary is crap, but I know patrolmen pulling down between 50-60k a year with OT. Now, OT means more time on the street...which means less rest, more stress, and the law of averages putting men and women in bad situations.
I'd like to meet someone...anyone...who can live on less than $30k a year in NYC. The state of NY should be ashamed of itself for not taking care of thier Police better than that. :(
Where's the community outcry when you have multiple gunshots...nigt after night in the hood?
This is the only part about these tragedies that gets me...everyone sees a police officer mess up...but no one sees the other 364 days a year when brotha's are killing brotha's.
Where's the good Reverend Al to march on black on black violence in NYC? Don't tell me he's just another black hypocrite? Good heavens no! :(
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Cops have a notoriously inept record when discharging their firearms under stress. In fact, they are lucky when they hit anywhere near where they aim. There have been a number of studies done, and it is abysmal.
As for the "veteran" officer who unloaded 31 shots, he should be brought up on reckless endangerment charges, since I'm guessing most of his 31 shots were strays.
Why isn't their training sufficeint enough to help them handle situations that expose them to a very high level of stress? I mean, if you're issued a firearm for your job, training like that should be the norm.
b/c in training you know in the back of your mind that it's not real, no matter how realistic you make it. They are trained, but until you get in a real situation you have no idea how good the training is.
good point
1. 51 shots, spraying an entire neighborhood, is seriously excessive.
2. No good will come of Al Sharpton's involvement.
this doesn't happen often, but i agree wholeheartedly
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what the hell?
to be livin here today.
‘Cause the flag still stands for freedom,
and they can’t take that away.
And I’m proud to be an American,
where at least I know I’m free.
And I wont forget the men who died,
who gave that right to me.
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Yea, you're right. It's only the location for the most popular american symbol...the statue of liberty. By the way, why are we in a war on terror if the WTC wasn't an attack on american soil? You, Dino, are not american. You, my friend, are not one for democracy. You do not accept others if they think differently than you. America is a melting pot. You want an America that thinks just like you. That is unamerican.
51 shots spraying neighbooring homes is quite excessive, but i think more information needs to be made available before any conclusions can be drawn.
al sharpton is a decietful egomaniac and should just be quiet....forever.
i think running over the cop who is on foot with a fucking car is excessive force.........
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
Well no shit. But how many bullets you gotta pump into a motherfucker to make sure he's dead?
wouldn't that depend on how good a shot you were?
Yes. Which goes back to my point, that if 1 cop needed to pop off 31 shots, then he's a threat to others. He should be relieved of his gun and assigned to mall security.
fascinating. were you saying that on sept. 11, 2001?
[secession now!]
cross the river to the eastside
Enough. The correct answer is enough.
I once saw a guy who was shot through the heart...TWICE...and was able to keep going for another minute because he was so wired up on PCP. It was one of the most disturbing things I have ever seen in my life.
He was shot 14 times...kept coming for another minute.
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A. The Cops overreacted and should definetly be stripped of their badges and/or brought up on charges.
B. Al Sharpton does not need to be involved.
c. NYPD is under amazing amounts of stress. They deal with shit that most people only see in movies.
d. As for not being trained well; think about this. The average nypd starting salary is 26-29k per year. Thats bullshit. You could make more working at Mcdonalds without having to worry about coming home alive or not. With the salary the way it is, your not going to be getting an overabundance of intellectuals in the NYPD. Your more intelligent cops will most likely go to the Suburbs where they can make 90,000 patrolling rich peoples homes.
i agree. but i wonder if 1) you feel the same about teachers, the people we entrust to educate our children, who are paid a pittance and 2) how you propose to pay such an increase in salary with your slavish devotion to cutting taxes?
ill tell you what i want to know (after the nature of this accident) what is the NYPD doing paying FIVE cops to sit in a strip club all day looking for violations?
very strange..lol
I feel teachers should make good money but not as good as cops. A police officers work is more stressful than a teachers.
Agreed, but show me a cop who works his/her 40 hours in NYC and calls it a day, and I'll show you a cop who doesn't work in NYC.
Same down here in Baltimore. Base salary is crap, but I know patrolmen pulling down between 50-60k a year with OT. Now, OT means more time on the street...which means less rest, more stress, and the law of averages putting men and women in bad situations.
I'd like to meet someone...anyone...who can live on less than $30k a year in NYC. The state of NY should be ashamed of itself for not taking care of thier Police better than that. :(
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cuz if that piece of shit tried running me over.....
i would have shot his dumbass 151 times......
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
This is the only part about these tragedies that gets me...everyone sees a police officer mess up...but no one sees the other 364 days a year when brotha's are killing brotha's.
Where's the good Reverend Al to march on black on black violence in NYC? Don't tell me he's just another black hypocrite? Good heavens no! :(
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