police in Oueens..........

SPEEDY MCCREADYSPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 25,744
edited November 2006 in A Moving Train
Take me piece by piece.....
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
Post edited by Unknown User on
«1

Comments

  • Fucking hell.

    'To protect and seveR'

    Fuck the po-lice..Fuck-Fuck-Fuck those po-lice
  • 51 times is a bit excessive isnt it?
  • oh! and dont these guys take a shooting test? They were aiming for a car but ended up hitting houses and other things in the process? I understand about acting in the heat of the moment, but if your training does not allow you to make level headed decisions, which include where to aim, then you shouldnt be out there.
  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    oh! and dont these guys take a shooting test? They were aiming for a car but ended up hitting houses and other things in the process? I understand about acting in the heat of the moment, but if your training does not allow you to make level headed decisions, which include where to aim, then you shouldnt be out there.

    Cops have a notoriously inept record when discharging their firearms under stress. In fact, they are lucky when they hit anywhere near where they aim. There have been a number of studies done, and it is abysmal.

    As for the "veteran" officer who unloaded 31 shots, he should be brought up on reckless endangerment charges, since I'm guessing most of his 31 shots were strays.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • jeffbr wrote:
    Cops have a notoriously inept record when discharging their firearms under stress. In fact, they are lucky when they hit anywhere near where they aim. There have been a number of studies done, and it is abysmal.

    As for the "veteran" officer who unloaded 31 shots, he should be brought up on reckless endangerment charges, since I'm guessing most of his 31 shots were strays.


    Why isn't their training sufficeint enough to help them handle situations that expose them to a very high level of stress? I mean, if you're issued a firearm for your job, training like that should be the norm.
  • chopitdownchopitdown Posts: 2,222
    Why isn't their training sufficeint enough to help them handle situations that expose them to a very high level of stress? I mean, if you're issued a firearm for your job, training like that should be the norm.

    b/c in training you know in the back of your mind that it's not real, no matter how realistic you make it. They are trained, but until you get in a real situation you have no idea how good the training is.
    make sure the fortune that you seek...is the fortune that you need
  • chopitdown wrote:
    b/c in training you know in the back of your mind that it's not real, no matter how realistic you make it. They are trained, but until you get in a real situation you have no idea how good the training is.


    good point
  • hippiemomhippiemom Posts: 3,326
    Not a lot of information to go on, so we don't know exactly what happened here, but there are two things I DO know:

    1. 51 shots, spraying an entire neighborhood, is seriously excessive.

    2. No good will come of Al Sharpton's involvement.
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
  • chopitdownchopitdown Posts: 2,222
    hippiemom wrote:
    Not a lot of information to go on, so we don't know exactly what happened here, but there are two things I DO know:

    1. 51 shots, spraying an entire neighborhood, is seriously excessive.

    2. No good will come of Al Sharpton's involvement.

    this doesn't happen often, but i agree wholeheartedly :)
    make sure the fortune that you seek...is the fortune that you need
  • new york are scum liberals who let them have police state and they hate the citizens right to own a handgun-same with uk
  • new york are scum liberals who let them have police state and they hate the citizens right to own a handgun-same with uk


    what the hell?
  • new york are scum liberals who let them have police state and they hate the citizens right to own a handgun-same with uk
    yea u got that right.I aint never been to new york city but i know for sure I aint never gonna go there... It's full off America hater's and hippie's and shit.Not the USA imo
    I’d thank my lucky stars,
    to be livin here today.
    ‘Cause the flag still stands for freedom,
    and they can’t take that away.

    And I’m proud to be an American,
    where at least I know I’m free.
    And I wont forget the men who died,
    who gave that right to me.
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    hippiemom wrote:
    2. No good will come of Al Sharpton's involvement.
    Noooooo shit!:D
  • Dino283 wrote:
    yea u got that right.I aint never been to new york city but i know for sure I aint never gonna go there... It's full off America hater's and hippie's and shit.Not the USA imo


    Yea, you're right. It's only the location for the most popular american symbol...the statue of liberty. By the way, why are we in a war on terror if the WTC wasn't an attack on american soil? You, Dino, are not american. You, my friend, are not one for democracy. You do not accept others if they think differently than you. America is a melting pot. You want an America that thinks just like you. That is unamerican.
  • QuarterToTenQuarterToTen Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 3,642
    i can't imagine being a law enforcement officer in new york city, or any city for that matter. they are trained to handle situations like this, but as stated the reaction to real danger cannot be predicted.

    51 shots spraying neighbooring homes is quite excessive, but i think more information needs to be made available before any conclusions can be drawn.

    al sharpton is a decietful egomaniac and should just be quiet....forever.
    Nice shirt.
  • excessive force???

    i think running over the cop who is on foot with a fucking car is excessive force.........
    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
  • excessive force???

    i think running over the cop who is on foot with a fucking car is excessive force.........


    Well no shit. But how many bullets you gotta pump into a motherfucker to make sure he's dead?
  • chopitdownchopitdown Posts: 2,222
    Well no shit. But how many bullets you gotta pump into a motherfucker to make sure he's dead?

    wouldn't that depend on how good a shot you were?
    make sure the fortune that you seek...is the fortune that you need
  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    chopitdown wrote:
    wouldn't that depend on how good a shot you were?

    Yes. Which goes back to my point, that if 1 cop needed to pop off 31 shots, then he's a threat to others. He should be relieved of his gun and assigned to mall security.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • VictoryGinVictoryGin Posts: 1,207
    Dino283 wrote:
    yea u got that right.I aint never been to new york city but i know for sure I aint never gonna go there... It's full off America hater's and hippie's and shit.Not the USA imo

    fascinating. were you saying that on sept. 11, 2001?

    [secession now!]
    if you wanna be a friend of mine
    cross the river to the eastside
  • enharmonicenharmonic Posts: 1,917
    Well no shit. But how many bullets you gotta pump into a motherfucker to make sure he's dead?


    Enough. The correct answer is enough.

    I once saw a guy who was shot through the heart...TWICE...and was able to keep going for another minute because he was so wired up on PCP. It was one of the most disturbing things I have ever seen in my life.

    He was shot 14 times...kept coming for another minute.
  • miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    Being very close to law enforcement i didnt want to respond, but feel i have too.

    A. The Cops overreacted and should definetly be stripped of their badges and/or brought up on charges.

    B. Al Sharpton does not need to be involved.

    c. NYPD is under amazing amounts of stress. They deal with shit that most people only see in movies.

    d. As for not being trained well; think about this. The average nypd starting salary is 26-29k per year. Thats bullshit. You could make more working at Mcdonalds without having to worry about coming home alive or not. With the salary the way it is, your not going to be getting an overabundance of intellectuals in the NYPD. Your more intelligent cops will most likely go to the Suburbs where they can make 90,000 patrolling rich peoples homes.
    America...the greatest Country in the world.
  • hippiemomhippiemom Posts: 3,326
    miller8966 wrote:
    Being very close to law enforcement i didnt want to respond, but feel i have too.

    A. The Cops overreacted and should definetly be stripped of their badges and/or brought up on charges.

    B. Al Sharpton does not need to be involved.

    c. NYPD is under amazing amounts of stress. They deal with shit that most people only see in movies.

    d. As for not being trained well; think about this. The average nypd starting salary is 26-29k per year. Thats bullshit. You could make more working at Mcdonalds without having to worry about coming home alive or not. With the salary the way it is, your not going to be getting an overabundance of intellectuals in the NYPD. Your more intelligent cops will most likely go to the Suburbs where they can make 90,000 patrolling rich peoples homes.
    Stop it. You're freaking me out. This is twice in a week.

    ;)
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    miller8966 wrote:
    d. As for not being trained well; think about this. The average nypd starting salary is 26-29k per year. Thats bullshit. You could make more working at Mcdonalds without having to worry about coming home alive or not. With the salary the way it is, your not going to be getting an overabundance of intellectuals in the NYPD. Your more intelligent cops will most likely go to the Suburbs where they can make 90,000 patrolling rich peoples homes.

    i agree. but i wonder if 1) you feel the same about teachers, the people we entrust to educate our children, who are paid a pittance and 2) how you propose to pay such an increase in salary with your slavish devotion to cutting taxes?

    ill tell you what i want to know (after the nature of this accident) what is the NYPD doing paying FIVE cops to sit in a strip club all day looking for violations?
  • miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    hippiemom wrote:
    Stop it. You're freaking me out. This is twice in a week.

    ;)

    very strange..lol
    America...the greatest Country in the world.
  • miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    i agree. but i wonder if 1) you feel the same about teachers, the people we entrust to educate our children, who are paid a pittance and 2) how you propose to pay such an increase in salary with your slavish devotion to cutting taxes?

    ill tell you what i want to know (after the nature of this accident) what is the NYPD doing paying FIVE cops to sit in a strip club all day looking for violations?

    I feel teachers should make good money but not as good as cops. A police officers work is more stressful than a teachers.
    America...the greatest Country in the world.
  • enharmonicenharmonic Posts: 1,917
    miller8966 wrote:
    The average nypd starting salary is 26-29k per year. Thats bullshit.

    Agreed, but show me a cop who works his/her 40 hours in NYC and calls it a day, and I'll show you a cop who doesn't work in NYC.

    Same down here in Baltimore. Base salary is crap, but I know patrolmen pulling down between 50-60k a year with OT. Now, OT means more time on the street...which means less rest, more stress, and the law of averages putting men and women in bad situations.

    I'd like to meet someone...anyone...who can live on less than $30k a year in NYC. The state of NY should be ashamed of itself for not taking care of thier Police better than that. :(
  • guess i wouldnt make a good cop.....

    cuz if that piece of shit tried running me over.....

    i would have shot his dumbass 151 times......
    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
  • enharmonicenharmonic Posts: 1,917
    Where's the community outcry when you have multiple gunshots...nigt after night in the hood?

    This is the only part about these tragedies that gets me...everyone sees a police officer mess up...but no one sees the other 364 days a year when brotha's are killing brotha's.

    Where's the good Reverend Al to march on black on black violence in NYC? Don't tell me he's just another black hypocrite? Good heavens no! :(
Sign In or Register to comment.