"That One"

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  • Mrs.Vedder78
    Mrs.Vedder78 Posts: 4,585
    Actually, I think it's more difficult for a racist to NOT say such things. It's not a matter of balls being a racist. Ignorance, sure, but not balls. I believe McCain does everything he can to really hold back, but that doesn't stop little nuggets of hatred like these from slipping out.


    Couldn't agree more with this statement.
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  • Mrs.Vedder78
    Mrs.Vedder78 Posts: 4,585
    I think McCain showed us his arrogance and condescendence more than once tonight.

    The first one was early on the debate when he corrected the young black man who asked the questions about how the bailout would benefit him, he corrected him by telling him that he likes to refer to it as the "rescue plan" and then made the outrageous assumption that the young man probably had never heard of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac :eek: , what the hell was that all about!!??
    "Without the album covers, where do you clean your pot?" - EV
  • Mrs.Vedder78
    Mrs.Vedder78 Posts: 4,585
    "Without the album covers, where do you clean your pot?" - EV
  • I think McCain showed us his arrogance and condescendence more than once tonight.

    The first one was early on the debate when he corrected the young black man who asked the questions about how the bailout would benefit him, he corrected him by telling him that he likes to refer to it as the "rescue plan" and then made the outrageous assumption that the young man probably had never heard of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac :eek: , what the hell was that all about!!??

    Yeah, that was weird too. Even if you hadn't heard of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac a year ago, which may very well be the case with some younger and first time voters--who hasn't heard about this in the last two weeks? And of those people who heard and wasn't familiar with either Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac didn't bother to look them the fuck up? How stupid, careless or lazy do you have to be at this point to be a registered voter and not have at least some understanding of them at this point?

    Again, condescending. Definitely a hallmark of McCain's campaign thus far.
  • I think McCain showed us his arrogance and condescendence more than once tonight.

    The first one was early on the debate when he corrected the young black man who asked the questions about how the bailout would benefit him, he corrected him by telling him that he likes to refer to it as the "rescue plan" and then made the outrageous assumption that the young man probably had never heard of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac :eek: , what the hell was that all about!!??

    Yeah, I caught that.... I had to ask my wife if she thought he was generalizing his statement or if he was directly answering the young man. She said she thought he was talking directly to the young man...I said I thought so too...that was kinda rude....
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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    This is how my old man used to call out the farm help.

    The farm help would gather at the barn in the morning for their instructions and the white help was always called by name and the black workers "that one"

    "Floyd, set up the pivot irrigation on the corn today and take..... uh....that one and that one with you"

    ST I can understand what you're saying with the comment of *That One* Earlier this year there was a case in a Palm Beach Florida private country club where something like what you're saying happened. The club who had Hispanic, Black people working there who never wore name tags and were never called by name. Whites who worked there wore name tags and were called by name, at this club Jews are discouraged into NOT becoming members.

    They were sued and and had to pay out in the hundred of thousands range. I can't find the story but that kind of discrimination STILL exists today.

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  • dharma69
    dharma69 Posts: 1,275

    I thought it was an unfortunate way to refer to Obama. I don't offend easily; hell I think calling people "African-American" is more offensive and stupid when black suffices just fine.

    "That one" and the hand gesture that went with were a bit disrespectful on a basic manners level. Nothing racial, just rude.
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  • Mrs.Vedder78
    Mrs.Vedder78 Posts: 4,585
    Yeah, I caught that.... I had to ask my wife if she thought he was generalizing his statement or if he was directly answering the young man. She said she thought he was talking directly to the young man...I said I thought so too...that was kinda rude....


    He has generalized that though because just a few days back he was talking to CNN in their morning show and he once again said "Most people probably hadn't even heard of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac before this crisis" and I was like WTF??? what kind of uneducated out of touch bunch do you think we are??!! :eek:
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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    Ok let's take a look at this:

    First debate; McCain NEVER looked at Obama during the debate

    Second debate: The comment *That One*

    Third debate; I will expect some other fireworks in a negative way towards Obama

    There we may see what desparate messures will be taken.

    Peace
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    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • anyone catch, earlier on the debate, "That One" is talking, and McCain looks into the crowd, makes a hand gesture, and gives a dismissive look? There was only one person on the stage tonight that was Presidential. And one person who was denied the Treasury Secretary job, even though he never applied for it. And meg Whitman for Treasury? She's an economist? What other jobs will McCain give his suporters? Rudy for Atty gen?
  • jimed14
    jimed14 Posts: 9,488
    There was only one person on the stage tonight that was Presidential.

    makes me wish Obama took McCain up on his 10 town hall debates challenge ... this thing would have been over before the conventions.
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  • _
    _ Posts: 6,657
    I don't feel like he meant it as bad as it came across. But he needs to think more before he speaks. God forbid he becomes President and says such offensive things to other world leaders. I'm no McCain fan by any stretch of the imagination, but the old guy keeps fucking up so much that I'm almost starting to feel sorry for him.
  • VOLITION wrote:
    If Obama maintains a big lead in the polls come election day only to lose, it be b/c he is a black man in a racist country.

    so you live your life by what polls say? you actually believe in polls that much?

    and there it is. people are already making the excuse of "the country is racist, that's why he didn't win!" yup, that can be the only possible reason obama would lose. that or the GOP rigged the voting machines, right?
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  • scb wrote:
    I don't feel like he meant it as bad as it came across. But he needs to think more before he speaks. God forbid he becomes President and says such offensive things to other world leaders. I'm no McCain fan by any stretch of the imagination, but the old guy keeps fucking up so much that I'm almost starting to feel sorry for him.

    how about when he walked right in front of the camera at the end of the debate, and had to be asked to move by Brokaw. Grampa Simpson is running for President.
  • how about when he walked right in front of the camera at the end of the debate, and had to be asked to move by Brokaw. Grampa Simpson is running for President.

    Better than Mr. Burns, I suppose.

    (btw, love the user name.)
  • the wolf
    the wolf Posts: 7,027
    You know, I didn't think it was so much a racial statement or a derogatory comment--I thought if anything it was a condescending remark (I know, McCain...condescending...you're shocked) more than anything else. Something that typifies the way that he either views Obama, wants his constituents to, or both.

    Either way, the key goal of this debate seemed to have been (or should have been) to win over moderate and undecided voters. Saying, "that one," in the manner he did, was clearly not the best strategy for doing so.

    this is what i thought. "saying that one, not this one" meaning candidate.

    still fucked up though.
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,784
    McCAIN is an embarrasesment to this presidential race f'n weirdo just like that panel of fools in ohio holy shit what a bunch of idiots ....how can anyone vote for this nut job is beyond me ..
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • Collin
    Collin Posts: 4,931
    Big deal.
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  • Collin wrote:
    Big deal.
    Yeah you're right... We're reading way too much into McCain's character...

    Gooks, KGB, not wanting to establish communication with other countries, that one...

    None of these issues should concern us about how we believe McCain will deal with others...

    Afterall he's the Maverick!
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  • MrBrian
    MrBrian Posts: 2,672
    It's not like he said "that black one" and pointed.
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    I do however think that McCain really hates Obama, not really because of race. But who knows, what we do know is McCain has a poor voting record, has bad policies and would probably make a worse leader than Bush.