Mitt Romney

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  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    Solat13 wrote:
    Never said that Hillary or Edwards had experience.

    I knew about the Feingold bill, but the climate change bill was more of a Lieberman and McCain bill that several senators besides Obama joined in as co-sponsors.

    Personally I like Obama much more than Hillary, but this is a Romney thread and I was merely discussing Obama because my2hands brought him up. Maybe because I have spent a bunch of time in Mass when Romney was governor makes me think he would be a better choice, but right now I don't like any of the candidates on either side who are running very much.

    I know what you mean. I know I'll get flamed for being "brainwashed" by the media for supporting Obama, but he really sparks something in me that no other candidate has ever done.

    I think right now is too important of a time to have a race between 2 candidates who could have easily been in this same position 8 years ago. (Hillary and McCain)
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    ledvedderman wrote:
    I know what you mean. I know I'll get flamed for being "brainwashed" by the media for supporting Obama, but he really sparks something in me that no other candidate has ever done.

    I think right now is too important of a time to have a race between 2 candidates who could have easily been in this same position 8 years ago. (Hillary and McCain)

    fall in line lemming!
  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    jlew24asu wrote:
    fall in line lemming!

    Must...support...Ron...Paul...doom...and...gloom...Ron...Paul...is...love
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    I can't decide who should be the next American Jesus...Huckabee or Romney...

    tough call.

    Romney is taller so that's probably the right choice.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    I can't decide who should be the next American Jesus...Huckabee or Romney...

    tough call.

    Romney is taller so that's probably the right choice.

    Yeah, but Jesus lived over 2,000 years ago and people were a lot shorter at that point...
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    ledvedderman wrote:
    Yeah, but Jesus lived over 2,000 years ago and people were a lot shorter at that point...

    It's the bovine growth formula in the milk. Everyone's getting taller, and Romney also routinely stretches himself on a cross during his s&m dungeon play with his 7 secret wives
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    I can't decide who should be the next American Jesus...Huckabee or Romney...

    tough call.

    Romney is taller so that's probably the right choice.

    romney seems to have kept religion out of his speeches from what I can tell. i could be wrong though. huckabee is 10x worse
  • stupidcorporatewhore
    stupidcorporatewhore Posts: 761
    pro- probably of all of the candidates, rep or dem, he is kind of appealing and looks the most "presidential"

    con- he talks a lot and doesn't say anything. here's what he said when asked about the war:
    I’m not going to try and define who’s winning and who’s losing. I don’t think we’re making anywhere near as much progress as we had anticipated we would make.

    There’s no question the administration was surprised by the fact that after the fall of Saddam Hussein it was a much tougher road than they ever expected. Secretary [Donald] Rumsfeld, as you recall, said we’re just sweeping up a few dead-enders. Well, it turned out to be a lot more than that. We had insufficient troops in place. We had insufficient plans. We did not have the appropriate rules of engagement in place. Obviously, there were management lapses—events such as Abu Ghraib make that clear. For all those reasons, we did less than the entirely effective job that we would have hoped to be able to do. And as a result, we’re in a difficult position right now.

    But to assess whether we’re making progress or not, I would presume we’re making progress, but certainly not at the rate we were hoping to make progress and, in some respects, that is disappointing.

    did he actually say anything? are you intoxicated with confidence?

    my feeling about mitt is that he'll tiptoe and not commit to anything until he's elected then he'll do whatever he thinks he can get away with based on his constiuency.
  • roar
    roar Posts: 1,116
    is it just me or does he LOOK like a used car salesman?

    politicians ~used car salesman...so it makes sense.
    he definitely smells forest fresh.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    roar wrote:
    is it just me or does he LOOK like a used car salesman?

    politicians ~used car salesman...so it makes sense.
    he definitely smells forest fresh.

    thats true. but he's an awfully successful one. he's worth about a quarter of a billion
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    PROS - He looks like Bruce Campbell.

    CONS - He looks like a sleazy used car salesman.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    mammasan wrote:
    PROS - He looks like Bruce Campbell.

    CONS - He looks like a sleazy used car salesman.

    any pros/cons on his policies? I would hope these actually matter this year right?
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    jlew24asu wrote:
    any pros/cons on his policies? I would hope these actually matter this year right?

    I can't really say. None of the mainstream candidates can be believed, they only say what their base wants to hear. Hillary, Romney, Guilliani etc. just feed their supporters and the media the lines that they believe will help them get elected. Once in office they will forget all those promises and stump speeches and simply cater to the people/corporations that funded their assent to the Oval office.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    mammasan wrote:
    I can't really say. None of the mainstream candidates can be believed, they only say what their base wants to hear. Hillary, Romney, Guilliani etc. just feed their supporters and the media the lines that they believe will help them get elected. Once in office they will forget all those promises and stump speeches and simply cater to the people/corporations that funded their assent to the Oval office.


    Put it this way...Bush was talking like Ron Paul on foreign policy during his campaign run. 27 days after he got elected he was dropping bombs on Iraq with Blair (before 9/11)

    If a candidate is already talking war....oh fuck...look out...it's on...

    Big time Iran smear campaign coming relentless stye
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Put it this way...Bush was talking like Ron Paul on foreign policy during his campaign run. 27 days after he got elected he was dropping bombs on Iraq with Blair (before 9/11)

    If a candidate is already talking war....oh fuck...look out...it's on...

    Big time Iran smear campaign coming relentless stye

    Well how are we supposed to declare needless war for profit without a boogie man to scare the ignorant public.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    mammasan wrote:
    I can't really say. None of the mainstream candidates can be believed, they only say what their base wants to hear. Hillary, Romney, Guilliani etc. just feed their supporters and the media the lines that they believe will help them get elected. Once in office they will forget all those promises and stump speeches and simply cater to the people/corporations that funded their assent to the Oval office.

    romney funds himself.
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    jlew24asu wrote:
    romney funds himself.

    That may be fine but Romney doesn't seem to want to change the status quote. His foreign policy seems to be right in line with the current and previous administrations. This also pertains to his domestic fiscal policy. The man would just be the same d shit with a different face.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    mammasan wrote:
    Well how are we supposed to declare needless war for profit without a boogie man to scare the ignorant public.



    Uhhhhhhhhhhh.....subliminal advertising during commercials?

    Oh wait, they disproved that in the 50's at drive in theaters (I think) or they made it illegal or something...

    Agreed. Boogeyman is the way to go.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    mammasan wrote:
    That may be fine but Romney doesn't seem to want to change the status quote. His foreign policy seems to be right in line with the current and previous administrations. This also pertains to his domestic fiscal policy. The man would just be the same d shit with a different face.

    I think he would actually curb spending somewhat, as an actual fiscal conservative. He worked wonders with the deficit in Mass.
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    slightofjeff wrote:
    I think he would actually curb spending somewhat, as an actual fiscal conservative. He worked wonders with the deficit in Mass.

    I'm talking more along the lines of Ron Paul fiscal conservatism. Romney may be better compared to Bush but that doesn't mean he is good enough.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul

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