Mitt Romney

jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
edited January 2008 in A Moving Train
this guy seems to be the front runner for the nomination. what do people feel about him? his business experience seems to be relevant right now and he should be able to ride that for super tuesday...

his pros/cons?
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  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    Cons- Morman and had a very liberal record as the gov in Mass. Many on the Republican side view him as a flip flopper on major issues like right to life, gay rights, and taxes.

    Pros- He's better that W

    I think he has done the best consistantly in the primaries, but I think the front runner is McCain now.
  • what a baited thread...
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  • job growth in MA lagged behind the national average when he was govna. i know that much.

    he's prettier than the other candidates
  • MakingWavesMakingWaves Posts: 1,293
    Cons- Morman and had a very liberal record as the gov in Mass. Many on the Republican side view him as a flip flopper on major issues like right to life, gay rights, and taxes.

    Pros- He's better that W

    I think he has done the best consistantly in the primaries, but I think the front runner is McCain now.

    IMO it doesn't matter what religion someone is but..

    Pros- Doesn't seem to be a Washington insider but I am sure that will quickly change

    Cons- Policy with Iraq and Middle East will not change.
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    what a baited thread...

    baited how? I found no threads about him and think there are enough ron paul ones. and somehow you wonder why you are one of the least respected posters on this board.
  • anothercloneanotherclone Posts: 1,688
    Pros- He's better that W

    I have to laugh at this. My hubby and I were talking about politics last night and I was "its pretty sad when we have no real front runner in either party and the only thing positive we can say for certain is, that no matter who gets elected, I can't imagine things getting any worse". :D
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Cons- Morman and had a very liberal record as the gov in Mass. Many on the Republican side view him as a flip flopper on major issues like right to life, gay rights, and taxes.

    Pros- He's better that W

    I think he has done the best consistantly in the primaries, but I think the front runner is McCain now.

    the cons you mentioned arent too bad. at first I didnt like that he was a morman but he has made it clear to keep that out of his politics. I hope.

    mccain? yea he is doing well but he is just too old and closely aligned with bush.....I dont think that will fly in the long run.
  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    IMO it doesn't matter what religion someone is but..

    I agree with you 100%. It SHOULDN'T matter, but when the Republican base are Christians who do care, it matters a lot.
  • MakingWavesMakingWaves Posts: 1,293
    I agree with you 100%. It SHOULDN'T matter, but when the Republican base are Christians who do care.

    Good point
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  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    jlew24asu wrote:
    the cons you mentioned arent too bad. at first I didnt like that he was a morman but he has made it clear to keep that out of his politics. I hope.

    mccain? yea he is doing well but he is just too old and closely aligned with bush.....I dont think that will fly in the long run.

    I think those cons are a big deal because each one of them pisses off a different portion of the Republican base. That makes it tough to win a general election, even if it is against Hillary where Republicans will come out of the woodwork to vote against her.

    Side note: You got rid of your signature...I take it all back now. I am going to uninvite you from the Vic five months after the fact.
  • jlew24asu wrote:
    mccain? yea he is doing well but he is just too old and closely aligned with bush.....I dont think that will fly in the long run.

    2/3s of republicans are happy with Bush. its not a bad stategy to win the nomination. I still think McCain is just pandering to get votes. I bet he hates Bush and if he got a elected i could see him flipping on a few issues, maybe for the better. but thats just a weird feeling i get about him.
  • jlew24asu wrote:
    baited how? I found no threads about him and think there are enough ron paul ones. and somehow you wonder why you are one of the least respected posters on this board.

    I coulda swore there's been a fair amount of discussion and opinion already about the guy, maybe there's another PJ forum that looks just like this one of which you post on for hours on end on.

    My mistake... lol :D

    I'm guessing you like the guy and would like to promote him, am I wrong?

    besides...aren't you a democrat?
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    MrSmith wrote:
    2/3s of republicans are happy with Bush. its not a bad stategy to win the nomination. I still think McCain is just pandering to get votes. I bet he hates Bush and if he got a elected i could see him flipping on a few issues, maybe for the better. but thats just a weird feeling i get about him.

    I don't think McCain would need to think twice about the possibility of shoving it in W's ass after the 2000 SC primary.
  • I agree with you 100%. It SHOULDN'T matter, but when the Republican base are Christians who do care, it matters a lot.


    i think it does matter if it influences his decisions. It probably doesnt influence his. I'm not a big fan of Mormonism, but I dont want to turn this into another religious bashing thread.
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    MrSmith wrote:
    2/3s of republicans are happy with Bush. its not a bad stategy to win the nomination. I still think McCain is just pandering to get votes. I bet he hates Bush and if he got a elected i could see him flipping on a few issues, maybe for the better. but thats just a weird feeling i get about him.

    that would be nice
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    I coulda swore there's been a fair amount of discussion and opinion already about the guy, maybe there's another PJ forum that looks just like this one of which you post on for hours on end on.

    My mistake... lol :D
    I'm not on here as much as you
    I'm guessing you like the guy and would like to promote him, am I wrong?
    like always, you are wrong. I dont like or dislike him. I'm looking for information and peoples opinion, thus making a thread.
    besides...aren't you a democrat?

    I am neither. I call it like I see it.
  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    MrSmith wrote:
    i think it does matter if it influences his decisions. It probably doesnt influence his. I'm not a big fan of Mormonism, but I dont want to turn this into another religious bashing thread.

    I concur.

    Call me crazy, but I think we're having a civilized discussion on The Moving Train w/o people pushing their own candidate down our throats and actually talking about strengths and weaknesses.
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    I concur.

    Call me crazy, but I think we're having a civilized discussion on The Moving Train w/o people pushing their own candidate down our throats and actually talking about strengths and weaknesses.

    give it a second. it true fashion, roland is playing the part well. he has the mind of a 12 year.
  • jlew24asu wrote:
    I'm not on here as much as you

    like always, you are wrong. I dont like or dislike him. I'm looking for information and peoples opinion, thus making a thread.



    I am neither. I call it like I see it.



    You'll have to forgive me, but I don't believe a word you just said.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    if mitt romney becomes president i am moving to canada...
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    my2hands wrote:
    if mitt romney becomes president i am moving to canada...

    why?
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    You'll have to forgive me, but I don't believe a word you just said.

    no one cares. dont u have a ron paul thread to make?
  • jlew24asu wrote:
    no one cares. dont u have a ron paul thread to make?

    I made them already and you whined about it, just like you're doing now...hehe

    :p
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    I made them already and you whined about it, just like you're doing now...hehe

    :p

    no one is whining. I just like to point and laugh at you, mostly because you arent even american and cant vote. even though you wish you were.
  • jlew24asu wrote:
    no one is whining. I just like to point and laugh at you, mostly because you arent even american and cant vote. even though you wish you were.

    haha...same sad story stuck on repeat. I like how you hiccup that mantra like a broken record when you have nothing else....

    That's ok don't respond to the Pakistan thread...purple sky world..purple sky world...

    ignorance is bliss.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    I think the biggest pro for Romney is that unlike the other Republican candidates he can work well with the other party. The Universal healthcare plan in Massachusetts he worked with Ted Kennedy on. I don't see either branch of Congress switching sides this election so from a Republican point of view, it would be wise to elect someone who can try and bridge the gap between the parties and not have 4 years of stalemates.

    Of course working on universal healthcare and with Ted Kennedy are two big cons for the Republican base which is why Romney has disassociated himself from it.
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  • jlew24asu wrote:
    this guy seems to be the front runner for the nomination. what do people feel about him? his business experience seems to be relevant right now and he should be able to ride that for super tuesday...

    his pros/cons?

    I see why the "republicans" want him.

    If there is ANYONE who can "lead us" "out of this mess" with regards to Wall St, it is Romney with his 2 decades of bucket shop experience. Hell the guy owned his own damn private capital firm.

    I disagree with that approach ... "sweep it under the rug" approach ... but of all the candidates, i think he would be the most apt to comprehend the symptoms and work shady ways with all the players to "make them dissapear".

    I see lots of neat little accounting loopholes opening up for the street, if this guy gets elected.

    That is THE reason he is the frontrunner right now, imho.
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    I see why the "republicans" want him.

    If there is ANYONE who can "lead us" "out of this mess" with regards to Wall St, it is Romney with his 2 decades of bucket shop experience. Hell the guy owned his own damn private capital firm.

    I disagree with that approach ... "sweep it under the rug" approach ... but of all the candidates, i think he would be the most apt to comprehend the symptoms and work shady ways with all the players to "make them dissapear".

    I see lots of neat little accounting loopholes opening up for the street, if this guy gets elected.

    That is THE reason he is the frontrunner right now, imho.

    really though? I know you think rp's is the only savior for our economy but there is more then one way to fix a broken car ya know. I still dont know, there isnt an electable candidate I like yet but his business experience is something to look at.
  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    jlew24asu wrote:
    this guy seems to be the front runner for the nomination. what do people feel about him? his business experience seems to be relevant right now and he should be able to ride that for super tuesday...

    his pros/cons?

    I wouldn't say he's the front runner yet. If he wins Florida, he'll be the definite front runner. Whoever wins Florida with its 57 delegates that are winner take all would be the front runner going into Super Tuesday.

    Romney also has the advantage of having a lot more funds than all of his Republican rivals.
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Solat13 wrote:
    it would be wise to elect someone who can try and bridge the gap between the parties and not have 4 years of stalemates.

    Obama?


    ;)
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