Ron Paul REVOlution

DriftingByTheStorm · January 2008

callen wrote:

Disagree....100% different than Bush....Obama worked for what he has, he's a minority, he can actually communicate. He'd be good for this country......better than all but maybe one or two candidates that won't be elected...RP and DK.

Agreed.
Ron Paul = 100% change.
Obama = 25% change.

Even 25% is better than bush which was 100 in the OTHER direction.

I think Obama will do a lot to heal this country, SOCIALY, and possibly to unite it politicaly.

Unfotunately, i don't think he will do DICK to address the fundamental problems with our economy. In truth, i don't think he understands the economy at all. And for me, that is a real problem.

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Thecure · January 2008

mammasan wrote:

Rudy is done. He is hedging all his bets on Super Tuesday. With a no show in Iowa and what looks to be a bad showing in New Hampshire and probably South Carolina, by the time Super Tuesday roles around all of those undecided voters will have probably picked a candidate who is in the lead.

it all depends, from what i am seeing there is not going to be an all out leader. Rudy knew that he had no chance in Iowa so he didn't waste his time there. i have a feeling that he will place 3 or 4 in NH and SC if that happens he has a good chance.

mammasan · January 2008

Thecure wrote:

it all depends, from what i am seeing there is not going to be an all out leader. Rudy knew that he had no chance in Iowa so he didn't waste his time there. i have a feeling that he will place 3 or 4 in NH and SC if that happens he has a good chance.

But On Super Duper Tuesday the only states he has any chance in are Florida, Deleware, New Jersey, California, New York and maybe Michigan. New Jersey, Delaware, and New York are a lock for him but all the other states he can still loose. It will especially be bad if McCain wins New Hampshire and places strong in South Carolina because he can steal many of the Northeastern liberal states and west Coast liberal states away from Rudy.

callen · January 2008

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

Agreed.
Ron Paul = 100% change.
Obama = 25% change.

Even 25% is better than bush which was 100 in the OTHER direction.

I think Obama will do a lot to heal this country, SOCIALY, and possibly to unite it politicaly.

Unfotunately, i don't think he will do DICK to address the fundamental problems with our economy. In truth, i don't think he understands the economy at all. And for me, that is a real problem.

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well he may not be a economics major...but I trust he will surround himself with folks that are....and thus be better than what we have now. I do also feel Obama does have the country at heart..not his own interests. So really since Ron and Dennis won't get in...he's the only one I feel won't continue to rape this country as would the lawyer and the Mrs.

Thecure · January 2008

mammasan wrote:

But On Super Duper Tuesday the only states he has any chance in are Florida, Deleware, New Jersey, California, New York and maybe Michigan. New Jersey, Delaware, and New York are a lock for him but all the other states he can still loose. It will especially be bad if McCain wins New Hampshire and places strong in South Carolina because he can steal many of the Northeastern liberal states and west Coast liberal states away from Rudy.

i agree and that is why i said before that it is a fight between McCain and Rudy. I still like McCain.

DriftingByTheStorm · January 2008

callen wrote:

well he may not be a economics major...but I trust he will surround himself with folks that are....and thus be better than what we have now. I do also feel Obama does have the country at heart..not his own interests. So really since Ron and Dennis won't get in...he's the only one I feel won't continue to rape this country as would the lawyer and the Mrs.

Callen, i agree with you about his intent.
I am just disheartened about the ramifications of bad fiscal policy (any policy that involves federaly mandated interest rates, ie not abolishing the Federal Reserve) at this point.

ANYone that he surrounds himself with will be "mainstream" and that means they will keep on the path of the same old same old.
That means the dollar keeps falling, the fed keeps printing more money, "economic stimulus packages" that will probably involve some form of bailout (socialized economy), and basicaly MISS THE BOAT ENTIRELY when it comes to the big picture of what is wrong.

If i have cancer, and i go to my general practice doctor, he most certainly has my best interest at heart, and he will do everything he can for me ... but he is no damn oncologist, and i will probably kick the bucket despite his best intent. That's what i think we are up against. Ron Paul happens to be the right Dr. for our country, right now.

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RolandTD20Kdrummer · January 2008

callen wrote:

Disagree....100% different than Bush....Obama worked for what he has, he's a minority, he can actually communicate. He'd be good for this country......better than all but maybe one or two candidates that won't be elected...RP and DK.

I fear he will be too strongly influenced after he settles in and the gloss will fade. Let's hope this isn't the case and this guy pulls out the stops shows people what he's really made of.

Anything is better than George Botch.

mammasan · January 2008

Thecure wrote:

i agree and that is why i said before that it is a fight between McCain and Rudy. I still like McCain.

I think it's more of a fight between McCain and Huckabee. Rudy and Romney where the media poster boys but when it comes down to it they look and act like slick used car salesmen and the people are sick and tired of these type of people running our country. That is why Hillary is not going to win the nomination nor Edwards because they come across the same way.

RolandTD20Kdrummer · January 2008

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

If i have cancer, and i go to my general practice doctor, he most certainly has my best interest at heart, and he will do everything he can for me ... but he is no damn oncologist, and i will probably kick the bucket despite his best intent. That's what i think we are up against. Ron Paul happens to be the right Dr. for our country, right now.

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I think that's a good analogy. if RP does not make it in I sincerely hope whomever does takes up his principles on economics and consults with him regularly.

Does no one in the staus quo still not understand what the Fed is doing?

Why the hell did Russo have to pass on...man that's some bad luck right there. He'd be pumping out some nice documentaries right about now.

Thecure · January 2008

mammasan wrote:

I think it's more of a fight between McCain and Huckabee. Rudy and Romney where the media poster boys but when it comes down to it they look and act like slick used car salesmen and the people are sick and tired of these type of people running our country. That is why Hillary is not going to win the nomination nor Edwards because they come across the same way.

you see there are many forces in teh rep. party that have major issues with his policies. i was watching yesterday on CNN where a person was saying that the Rub. did not want Huckabee to win becuase he can't run a nation wide election and i believe that to be true.

DriftingByTheStorm · January 2008

Thecure wrote:

you see there are many forces in teh rep. party that have major issues with his policies. i was watching yesterday on CNN where a person was saying that the Rub. did not want Huckabee to win becuase he can't run a nation wide election and i believe that to be true.

Wallstreet is scared shitless.
Erin Brunett did a piece on CNBC the other day where she couldn't stop laughing, with the title under her "Wallstreet Warns: Dont Commit Huckacide" ... she kept giggling, and said the street was worried that his economic policies would be disastrous for the country.

I'm not sure how much traction the guy really has outside of the breadbasket. The zealots are everywhere, but i think the moderates on either coast will probably put him down a peg or two in those primaries.

sweetpotato · January 2008

wow, another paulsterbation thread. just what we needed.

it's all moot anyway, since the next president will be a democrat.

Pacomc79 · January 2008

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

Wallstreet is scared shitless.
Erin Brunett did a piece on CNBC the other day where she couldn't stop laughing, with the title under her "Wallstreet Warns: Dont Commit Huckacide" ... she kept giggling, and said the street was worried that his economic policies would be disastrous for the country.

I'm not sure how much traction the guy really has outside of the breadbasket. The zealots are everywhere, but i think the moderates on either coast will probably put him down a peg or two in those primaries.

Fair Tax "The Truth" (IE the rebuttal book) will be out Feb 12th for people to read. Then again, they won't read that either.

God Forbid people actually get a chance to choose how they pay tax, when they pay tax and know exactly what they are paying in tax.... yeah that's disastrous. Tax Accountants might actually have to find work investing money instead of finding out how to keep it away from the Government.

Get away from the Super Moral Conservative Baptist preacher deal and he might not be so bad.

RolandTD20Kdrummer · January 2008

sweetpotato wrote:

wow, another paulsterbation thread. just what we needed.

it's all moot anyway, since the next president will be a democrat.

yes....public censorship is the way to go

Might as well toss in a dash of extra surveillance to make sure the censorship is working.

Ah the irony

sweetpotato · January 2008

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

yes....public censorship is the way to go

Might as well toss in a dash of extra surveillance to make sure the censorship is working.

Ah the irony

i'm not interested in censorship, not at all. i welcome the 467 paul threads, if only to see you all get each other off, over and over again.

RolandTD20Kdrummer · January 2008

sweetpotato wrote:

i'm not interested in censorship, not at all. i welcome the 467 paul threads, if only to see you all get each other off, over and over again.

What if they were more to your liking...ok then?

sweetpotato · January 2008

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

What if they were more to your liking...ok then?

no, it would still be a big snore, since redundancy tends to make me drowsy.

mammasan · January 2008

Thecure wrote:

you see there are many forces in teh rep. party that have major issues with his policies. i was watching yesterday on CNN where a person was saying that the Rub. did not want Huckabee to win becuase he can't run a nation wide election and i believe that to be true.

I agree. If Huckabee wins the Republican nomination the Dems will win the general election, unless Hillary wins the nomination. The Republican party is too fragmented at this point and that is why I think McCain has the best chance of winning the nomination. Huckabee is too Jesusy for the more moderate wing of the party. Rudy is too liberal for the religious wing. Romney looks too much like a used car salesman for anyone to trust. McCain sort of falls somewhere in the middle.

sweetpotato · January 2008

mammasan wrote:

I agree. If Huckabee wins the Republican nomination the Dems will win the general election, unless Hillary wins the nomination. The Republican party is too fragmented at this point and that is why I think McCain has the best chance of winning the nomination. Huckabee is too Jesusy for the more moderate wing of the party. Rudy is too liberal for the religious wing. Romney looks too much like a used car salesman for anyone to trust. McCain sort of falls somewhere in the middle.

if i were a repugnican ... >a shiver runs down my spine<... i'd like mccain best out of that lot. which isn't sayng much, but wtf. he endured torture, he can't be all bad.

DriftingByTheStorm · January 2008

sweetpotato wrote:

if only to see you all get each other off, over and over again.

mmm ...mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...mmmmmmmmmm .... i feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeel it ... all ovvvveeeeeeerrrrrrrrr .... ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh..........

yes
take off your shirt and LOVE someone!

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