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DriftingByTheStormDriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
edited January 2008 in A Moving Train
OK.
some troll posted this on the Ron Paul forums.
FUCKING FUNNY SHIT!

I know some of us may be down,
but all things considered, 10% in Iowa KICKS ASS.

DON'T GET DOWN.
We got 10% in a state that wants Ethanol subsidies and the return of Jesus H. Christ.

New Hampshire will be better
(fingers crossed)

:D:D:D
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  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    If those numbers are actually accurate. Iowa is a scary buttfuck kind of place...

    hehe
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
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  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    The troops have spoken :D

    http://www.youtube.com/v/1qVmVJJaLkM
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSunLikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    So how does it feel to watch all your hopes and dreams be brutally crushed by the american political system, Drifting?
  • DriftingByTheStormDriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    MrSmith wrote:
    So how does it feel to watch all your hopes and dreams be brutally crushed by the american political system, Drifting?

    See here:
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    I was a little sad when i first read the final tally,
    but after mulling it over in the Ronpaul forums and thinking about it more ....

    THIS IS GREAT NEWS.

    He is 3% away from a THIRD PLACE TIE.

    He BEAT GIULIANI, THREE VOTES TO ONE

    and there were a good few people on the message board yesterday saying "I AM A BRAND NEW RON PAUL SUPPORTER ... i didn't know who he was until i saw the polls last night, and i looked him up, and now i'm in love! GO RON GO!"

    So,
    no ... i think he will CLEAN UP IN NEW HAMPSHIRE.

    Ron Paul polled HIGHEST AMONG INDEPENDENTS in entrance polls last night.

    THAT MEANS WHOOP ASS IN NEW HAMPSHIRE!
    :D

    :D
    yup
    :D
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  • lalalalaaaaaaaalalalalaaaaaaaa Posts: 2,445
    I would say Romney will do better than Paul in NH...just my guess.
  • DriftingByTheStormDriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    Saturnal wrote:
    I would say Romney will do better than Paul in NH...just my guess.

    even with the overwhelming INDEPENDENT vote?
    40% PLUS are REGISTERED INDEPENDENT in NH.

    ???

    But i do agree, Romney will do better,
    he HAS to.
    :D
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  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    even with the overwhelming INDEPENDENT vote?
    40% PLUS are REGISTERED INDEPENDENT in NH.

    ???

    But i do agree, Romney will do better,
    he HAS to.
    :D

    There are more registered independents in Iowa than either major party. 38% of Iowans are registered independents so the difference between Iowa and New Hampshire should be negligible.
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  • DriftingByTheStormDriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    Solat13 wrote:
    There are more registered independents in Iowa than either major party. 38% of Iowans are registered independents so the difference between Iowa and New Hampshire should be negligible.

    42% in New Hampshire.

    Point taken, though.
    The real problem for Ron, is a LOT of those independents are voting Obama, and not for Ron, or ANY republican, for that matter.
    But, i think 10% was a pretty damn good number, all things considered.

    Although, again, according to entrance polls, Ron Paul got the majority of independent votes, so it could boost his numbers a few points in New Hampshire ... assuming they don't all go vote for Obama.

    Also, voter turnout is much higher in New Hampshire,
    so it's not as negligible as you indicate.

    :D
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  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    RP wasn't expected to win in Iowa, due to the saturation of holy rollers. He is expected to do well NH.

    Iowa is a second rate state that represents very little of the US opinion is what I'm hearing.

    should be interesting to see.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    RP wasn't expected to win in Iowa, due to the saturation of holy rollers. He is expected to do well NH.

    Iowa is a second rate state that represents very little of the US opinion is what I'm hearing.

    should be interesting to see.
    This was a good showing for Ron.

    Now Huckebilly......can see it now....he wins the republican nomination....the sheep will vote for him to help justify their beliefs in mythology....and Bam...we got another Dubya.
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  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    It's a positive that Paul did manage to pull 10% in, but the reality of the situation is that Paul will not get the nomination. The best we can hope for is that he will bring attention to serious issues that the other candidates never mention like the Federal Reserve, the Gold Standard, our failed foreign policy, the errosion of our civil liberties, the reduction of federal spending and the reduction of the size of our federal government.
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  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    OK.
    some troll posted this on the Ron Paul forums.
    FUCKING FUNNY SHIT!

    I know some of us may be down,
    but all things considered, 10% in Iowa KICKS ASS.

    DON'T GET DOWN.
    We got 10% in a state that wants Ethanol subsidies and the return of Jesus H. Christ.

    New Hampshire will be better
    (fingers crossed)

    :D:D:D

    Freakin CNN included Ron Paul in those that were "Slaughtered"...bastards. Tell you seems like CNN is getting more like fox everyday.

    "Sens. Chris Dodd and Joe Biden have bowed out gracefully, while New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, Rep. Ron Paul and Rep. Duncan Hunter continue their quests after getting slaughtered in Iowa."
    http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/04/iowa.analysis/index.html
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  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSunLikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    I'm starting to think there will be a democrat in office next year
  • DriftingByTheStormDriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    MrSmith wrote:
    I'm starting to think there will be a democrat in office next year

    Agreed.
    Obama had MORE VOTES THAN THE REPUBLICAN FIELD COMBINED.
    :(

    Not good for ANY republicans out there.
    :(

    I actualy like Obama THE MAN, but i think his positions on government are way off from from what is best for America. Socialized ANYTHING is awful policy. He is atleast moderate on this, unlike Mrs. Socialize The World Clinton, but it is still bad policy. But if we are going to give things away, lets do it in moderation, like Obama says: "The American people i know are a self reliant people. But that doesn't mean we should be afraid to ask the government for just A LITTLE help."

    ::sigh::
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  • ThecureThecure Posts: 814
    callen wrote:
    This was a good showing for Ron.

    Now Huckebilly......can see it now....he wins the republican nomination....the sheep will vote for him to help justify their beliefs in mythology....and Bam...we got another Dubya.

    trust me Huckabee will not win any nomination. it is a battle between McCain and Rudy.
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  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    Thecure wrote:
    trust me Huckabee will not win any nomination. it is a battle between McCain and Rudy.

    Rudy has put little effort into these early states. He's counting on a big finish. What makes this a horrible strategy is that now his campaign is DARK for at least another 2 weeks. The talking heads will be talking about Iowa and NH and there will be no mention of him. Out of sight...out of mind.
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  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    I was reading that CNN recently quoted Michael Moore as saying the democrats are going to throw the election by voting for Obama.

    I fear no amount of serious change at all will come about with Obama.

    He'll just talk his way through it by throwing out roses to the crowd...it isn't bush, but it's the same car...fresh coat of paint imo...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    Thecure wrote:
    trust me Huckabee will not win any nomination. it is a battle between McCain and Rudy.
    I soooo hope your right......but afraid it will happen again...human nature.
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  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    I was reading that CNN recently quoted Michael Moore as saying the democrats are going to throw the election by voting for Obama.

    I fear no amount of serious change at all will come about with Obama.

    He'll just talk his way through it by throwing out roses to the crowd...it isn't bush, but it's the same car...fresh coat of paint imo...
    Disagree....100% different than Bush....Obama worked for what he has, he's a minority, he can actually communicate. He'd be good for this country......better than all but maybe one or two candidates that won't be elected...RP and DK.
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  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    Thecure wrote:
    trust me Huckabee will not win any nomination. it is a battle between McCain and Rudy.

    Rudy is done. He is hedging all his bets on Super Tuesday. With a no show in Iowa and what looks to be a bad showing in New Hampshire and probably South Carolina, by the time Super Tuesday roles around all of those undecided voters will have probably picked a candidate who is in the lead.
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  • DriftingByTheStormDriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    callen wrote:
    Disagree....100% different than Bush....Obama worked for what he has, he's a minority, he can actually communicate. He'd be good for this country......better than all but maybe one or two candidates that won't be elected...RP and DK.

    Agreed.
    Ron Paul = 100% change.
    Obama = 25% change.

    Even 25% is better than bush which was 100 in the OTHER direction.

    I think Obama will do a lot to heal this country, SOCIALY, and possibly to unite it politicaly.

    Unfotunately, i don't think he will do DICK to address the fundamental problems with our economy. In truth, i don't think he understands the economy at all. And for me, that is a real problem.

    :(
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  • ThecureThecure Posts: 814
    mammasan wrote:
    Rudy is done. He is hedging all his bets on Super Tuesday. With a no show in Iowa and what looks to be a bad showing in New Hampshire and probably South Carolina, by the time Super Tuesday roles around all of those undecided voters will have probably picked a candidate who is in the lead.

    it all depends, from what i am seeing there is not going to be an all out leader. Rudy knew that he had no chance in Iowa so he didn't waste his time there. i have a feeling that he will place 3 or 4 in NH and SC if that happens he has a good chance.
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  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    Thecure wrote:
    it all depends, from what i am seeing there is not going to be an all out leader. Rudy knew that he had no chance in Iowa so he didn't waste his time there. i have a feeling that he will place 3 or 4 in NH and SC if that happens he has a good chance.

    But On Super Duper Tuesday the only states he has any chance in are Florida, Deleware, New Jersey, California, New York and maybe Michigan. New Jersey, Delaware, and New York are a lock for him but all the other states he can still loose. It will especially be bad if McCain wins New Hampshire and places strong in South Carolina because he can steal many of the Northeastern liberal states and west Coast liberal states away from Rudy.
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  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    Agreed.
    Ron Paul = 100% change.
    Obama = 25% change.

    Even 25% is better than bush which was 100 in the OTHER direction.

    I think Obama will do a lot to heal this country, SOCIALY, and possibly to unite it politicaly.

    Unfotunately, i don't think he will do DICK to address the fundamental problems with our economy. In truth, i don't think he understands the economy at all. And for me, that is a real problem.

    :(

    well he may not be a economics major...but I trust he will surround himself with folks that are....and thus be better than what we have now. I do also feel Obama does have the country at heart..not his own interests. So really since Ron and Dennis won't get in...he's the only one I feel won't continue to rape this country as would the lawyer and the Mrs.
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  • ThecureThecure Posts: 814
    mammasan wrote:
    But On Super Duper Tuesday the only states he has any chance in are Florida, Deleware, New Jersey, California, New York and maybe Michigan. New Jersey, Delaware, and New York are a lock for him but all the other states he can still loose. It will especially be bad if McCain wins New Hampshire and places strong in South Carolina because he can steal many of the Northeastern liberal states and west Coast liberal states away from Rudy.

    i agree and that is why i said before that it is a fight between McCain and Rudy. I still like McCain.
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  • DriftingByTheStormDriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    callen wrote:
    well he may not be a economics major...but I trust he will surround himself with folks that are....and thus be better than what we have now. I do also feel Obama does have the country at heart..not his own interests. So really since Ron and Dennis won't get in...he's the only one I feel won't continue to rape this country as would the lawyer and the Mrs.

    Callen, i agree with you about his intent.
    I am just disheartened about the ramifications of bad fiscal policy (any policy that involves federaly mandated interest rates, ie not abolishing the Federal Reserve) at this point.

    ANYone that he surrounds himself with will be "mainstream" and that means they will keep on the path of the same old same old.
    That means the dollar keeps falling, the fed keeps printing more money, "economic stimulus packages" that will probably involve some form of bailout (socialized economy), and basicaly MISS THE BOAT ENTIRELY when it comes to the big picture of what is wrong.

    If i have cancer, and i go to my general practice doctor, he most certainly has my best interest at heart, and he will do everything he can for me ... but he is no damn oncologist, and i will probably kick the bucket despite his best intent. That's what i think we are up against. Ron Paul happens to be the right Dr. for our country, right now.

    :(
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  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    callen wrote:
    Disagree....100% different than Bush....Obama worked for what he has, he's a minority, he can actually communicate. He'd be good for this country......better than all but maybe one or two candidates that won't be elected...RP and DK.

    I fear he will be too strongly influenced after he settles in and the gloss will fade. Let's hope this isn't the case and this guy pulls out the stops shows people what he's really made of.

    Anything is better than George Botch.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    Thecure wrote:
    i agree and that is why i said before that it is a fight between McCain and Rudy. I still like McCain.

    I think it's more of a fight between McCain and Huckabee. Rudy and Romney where the media poster boys but when it comes down to it they look and act like slick used car salesmen and the people are sick and tired of these type of people running our country. That is why Hillary is not going to win the nomination nor Edwards because they come across the same way.
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  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

    If i have cancer, and i go to my general practice doctor, he most certainly has my best interest at heart, and he will do everything he can for me ... but he is no damn oncologist, and i will probably kick the bucket despite his best intent. That's what i think we are up against. Ron Paul happens to be the right Dr. for our country, right now.

    :(

    I think that's a good analogy. if RP does not make it in I sincerely hope whomever does takes up his principles on economics and consults with him regularly.

    Does no one in the staus quo still not understand what the Fed is doing?

    Why the hell did Russo have to pass on...man that's some bad luck right there. He'd be pumping out some nice documentaries right about now.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • ThecureThecure Posts: 814
    mammasan wrote:
    I think it's more of a fight between McCain and Huckabee. Rudy and Romney where the media poster boys but when it comes down to it they look and act like slick used car salesmen and the people are sick and tired of these type of people running our country. That is why Hillary is not going to win the nomination nor Edwards because they come across the same way.

    you see there are many forces in teh rep. party that have major issues with his policies. i was watching yesterday on CNN where a person was saying that the Rub. did not want Huckabee to win becuase he can't run a nation wide election and i believe that to be true.
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