Rising Sea levels threaten Indian Islands

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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    If we turn the middle east into a nuclear crater water will flow into it lowering earth's sea levels.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    If we turn the middle east into a nuclear crater water will flow into it lowering earth's sea levels.

    Shit so all along people like Cheney where just trying to save the world from rising sea levels.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    mammasan wrote:
    Shit so all along people like Cheney where just trying to save the world from rising sea levels.

    It certainly is one of the more elaborate kyoto plans going. I'll put dollars to donut holes they often sneak away and wet dream about it.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    surferdude wrote:
    Then they can stay where they are and die. Sounds like a stupid approach to take but seems to be the one that will keep you happy.

    Moving people is quite easy. Nomadic tribes have been doing this for thousands of years. Yes, peoples lives will be uprooted and go through tremendous upheaval. I don't dispute this. But when the choice is move or die, I'd stop shitting on the move idea. Instead I'd start looking into what can be done to first facilitate the move then building new lives for all the transplanted people.

    Shitting on the one idea that will save the lives of the affected people just seems retarded to me.
    That is not what you said at first. There was nothing about what we might do to facilitate the move or assist them in building new lives. You just said they should leave.
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    hippiemom wrote:
    Didn't you ever have a really good teacher? And didn't that teacher repeatedly stress that there are no stupid questions?

    If you don't have time just say so, but don't try to discourage people who want to learn more. Better they start paying attention now than not at all, right?

    i've been saying the same thing and posting links for about 3 years now. in those cases; posting links only yielded links of opposing opinions and arguments about which was right. i'm tired of talking until somebody hears.
  • surferdude
    surferdude Posts: 2,057
    hippiemom wrote:
    That is not what you said at first. There was nothing about what we might do to facilitate the move or assist them in building new lives. You just said they should leave.
    They should move even if they don't get our help. There choice is move or die, they'd be stupid to depend on or wait for help. That's for them.
    For us, I believe we are all in this together and we should help them. That as much resources that are spent on slowing our impact on climate change should also be spent on adapting to climate change. You won't hear this from the scientific community as they haven't found a way to profit from adapting.
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    when it hits you, you feel to pain.
    So brutalize me with music.”
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  • tybird
    tybird Posts: 17,388
    surferdude wrote:
    Moving people is quite easy. Nomadic tribes have been doing this for thousands of years. Yes, peoples lives will be uprooted and go through tremendous upheaval. I don't dispute this. But when the choice is move or die, I'd stop shitting on the move idea. Instead I'd start looking into what can be done to first facilitate the move then building new lives for all the transplanted people.

    Shitting on the one idea that will save the lives of the affected people just seems retarded to me.
    I am not "shitting" on the move idea. The shitting is on the people who somehow think that moving is going to be easy or that everyone has the power, ability or means just to uproot themselves at the drop of the hat. Yes, nomadic tribes have been moving for centuries, but that is what they know. The people in the mentioned part of the world have not been nomadic for centuries. They do not know how nor have the ability to move. They may not even have the awareness that their lifestyle is coming to an end.

    This is a really important issue for a country that is already bursting at the seams with people. India is a country that is walking a tight-rope between its exploding population, its limited land mass, its need to protect the threatened flora and fauna of the country and its ability to produce food.
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    surferdude wrote:
    They should move even if they don't get our help. There choice is move or die, they'd be stupid to depend on or wait for help. That's for them.
    For us, I believe we are all in this together and we should help them. That as much resources that are spent on slowing our impact on climate change should also be spent on adapting to climate change. You won't hear this from the scientific community as they haven't found a way to profit from adapting.

    i'm in the process of adapting. carefully study facts and ignore opinions. that's the key. look at the logical progression of events and go from there. it's obvious the government is going to ignore the situation and scientists rarely agree. i'd move away from the coasts while the land is worth something. this is where most people will lose. the inability to produce/hunt/gather food for themselves is the other.
    katrina taught us a lot of things..............for those who listen.
  • surferdude
    surferdude Posts: 2,057
    onelongsong, I just noticed the Ozzy quote in your signature. It's from a great song.
    “One good thing about music,
    when it hits you, you feel to pain.
    So brutalize me with music.”
    ~ Bob Marley
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Ozzy was great before the drug induced Alzheimer's set in
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    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
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  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Ozzy was great before the drug induced Alzheimer's set in

    what amazes me is the way he can get his shit together to perform.
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  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    onelongsong wrote:
    i've been saying the same thing and posting links for about 3 years now. in those cases; posting links only yielded links of opposing opinions and arguments about which was right. i'm tired of talking until somebody hears.

    I can understand that. You need to adapt and find a new approach. For instance, one good way is to start a topic by dumbing down the subject. You get a lot more replies that way, therefore a lot more readers, and a lot more potential for people reading what you have to say.
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    gue_barium wrote:
    what amazes me is the way he can get his shit together to perform.

    His voice is awesome in a raunchy good kind of way. Stem cells for Ozzy!
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    gue_barium wrote:
    I can understand that. You need to adapt and find a new approach. For instance, one good way is to start a topic by dumbing down the subject. You get a lot more replies that way, therefore a lot more readers, and a lot more potential for people reading what you have to say.

    i don't know what to do anymore. someone just PMed me an article from time magazine which stated 80% of what i've been saying about nutrition and the bison on this board for about 2 years. but because ted turner is going to try it my way; that's newsworthy.
    same thing here. i can offer the science but by the time it goes through review and finally makes it to the web; it's old news.
    when you "dumb" it down you have to explain the science behind it anyway.
    it's a no win deal.
  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    onelongsong wrote:
    i don't know what to do anymore. someone just PMed me an article from time magazine which stated 80% of what i've been saying about nutrition and the bison on this board for about 2 years. but because ted turner is going to try it my way; that's newsworthy.
    same thing here. i can offer the science but by the time it goes through review and finally makes it to the web; it's old news.
    when you "dumb" it down you have to explain the science behind it anyway.
    it's a no win deal.

    well then, i guess i'll just have to empathize with the plight of the buffalo man.
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  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    gue_barium wrote:
    well then, i guess i'll just have to empathize with the plight of the buffalo man.

    i'm just pissy that they stole my thunder. but i really wasn't doing research for the glory anyway.
  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    onelongsong wrote:
    i'm just pissy that they stole my thunder. but i really wasn't doing research for the glory anyway.

    Unless I missed it, you haven't said if this is government or privately funded research.
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  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    gue_barium wrote:
    Unless I missed it, you haven't said if this is government or privately funded research.

    every penny is out of my pocket. i had some stupid thoughts about doing something humanitarian before i die.
  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    onelongsong wrote:
    every penny is out of my pocket. i had some stupid thoughts about doing something humanitarian before i die.
    Isn't it already true that lean, wild red meat is better for you than the usual beef? Organic consumers have been choosing "free range" meats for consumption for years. Is there something about the buffalo diet we don't know?
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  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    gue_barium wrote:
    Isn't it already true that lean, wild red meat is better for you than the usual beef? Organic consumers have been choosing "free range" meats for consumption for years. Is there something about the buffalo diet we don't know?

    the yellow fat in buffalo actually destroys the bad collesterol and opens arteries. a compound was found in the meat that kills cancer cells. in the name of more profits; producers have been grain feeding and using feedlots. any medicinal qualities are destroyed by doing this. when you feedlot animals you know they will get sick from close confinement so you must medicate them all. then there's the growth hormones for faster weight gain. if there is cures we don't know about; i want to make sure we have pure animals to find it. on the other hand; people are buying buffalo meat expecting health benefits and they're not getting what they pay for.

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