Should we go back to old school ticket purchases?

Urohawk · February 2008

Well the 10C did it again.....Considering the VIC fiasco and yesterdays ticket sale should they consider going back to old school ticket purchasing?

By that I mean tickets are done by mail ins and preference is given to those who live in the area of the concert.

I am all for the more modern methods of allowing purchases to multiple shows, but I think it would be great to give preferences to locals. For example, some people from NYC are going to be flying to Cali, but don't you think the guys in LA should get a priority? The karma would come back around when they play the Garden.

It always seem like I get screwed in these presales because they're at a time I have to work or that I can't manage to get tickets in my own backyard. I am all happy for you that you take off the summer and tour with the band. I just want to see them in one concert in my backyard.

I don't want to hear from people that say they make the ticket sales more of a "priority". I am usually in the operating room so don't tell me you want me to log in a computer for two hours instead of taking out your cancerous kidney.

blacknapkins · February 2008

Urohawk wrote:

Well the 10C did it again.....Considering the VIC fiasco and yesterdays ticket sale should they consider going back to old school ticket purchasing?

By that I mean tickets are done by mail ins and preference is given to those who live in the area of the concert.

I'm going to go out on a limb and agree with you (inviting all sorts of backlash from people who are probably reselling tickets anyway.)

The only time I could get anything resembling a decent seat was the old way and in all honesty, it really wasn't that much trouble to go through. It wasn't nearly as much hassle as frantically refreshing while the ticket sellers beat me to them.

LukinFan · February 2008

But then when the post office loses your ticket payment, people will be bitching then. There is no one way that can make everyone happy. People will always complain about something.

Urohawk · February 2008

blacknapkins wrote:

The only time I could get anything resembling a decent seat was the old way and in all honesty, it really wasn't that much trouble to go through. It wasn't nearly as much hassle as frantically refreshing while the ticket sellers beat me to them.

The seat quality has declined for me as well. The multiple show folks seem to put a damper on my medicore number. I guess I wasn't "hardcore" enough in high school to realize I should join a bands fan club, although I have been to 9 shows.

Urohawk · February 2008

LukinFan wrote:

But then when the post office loses your ticket payment, people will be bitching then. There is no one way that can make everyone happy. People will always complain about something.

Fine. Log into a computer and leave your credit card number with show requests. Do you know how easy it would be to write a program that prioritizes you by 10c number and the state you live in?

No server crashes. No charges without tickets.

No you can't please everyone but you should always strive for perfection.

LukinFan · February 2008

Urohawk wrote:

Do you know how easy it would be to write a program that prioritizes you by 10c number and the state you live in?

Now, I do like that idea. I just don't wanna go back to the old mailing or telephone system

farfromglorified · February 2008

The mail-in system had its merits, but a working website is the best solution.

Red Lukin · February 2008

I really liked the old way. I'd so much rather go through the "hassle" (if you call it that) of getting a money order and mailing it, then to sit on the computer for hours on end and end up with nothing.

Plus if there aren't enough tickets to fill everyone's order the TC can use a system that's fair to everyone, instead of the same people getting tickets with the current system (assuming those with newer faster computers are always snagging tickets).

Indifference · February 2008

Going back to the mail - that is funny - how about we see if the Pony Express is available for servicing this.

augustwest · February 2008

Anything is better than what is happening now

1st the Vic...now the EV solo tour :(

I wish I could stay positive and BELIEVE things are improving, but...

Question of the day...why sell all EV shows at once? Surely they must have known the system would crash??

Indifference · February 2008

augustwest wrote:

Anything is better than what is happening now

1st the Vic...now the EV solo tour :(

I wish I could stay positive and BELIEVE things are improving, but...

Question of the day...why sell all EV shows at once? Surely they must have known the system would crash??

While the system is not optimal if you don't give up - you never know - I got Vancouver tickets in under a minute yesterday and got Vic tickets 25 minutes after they went on sale.

One reason for putting them all on sale at once is so the people that seem to have the "luck" don't grab all the tickets to all the shows.

augustwest · February 2008

Indifference wrote:

While the system is not optimal if you don't give up - you never know - I got Vancouver tickets in under a minute yesterday and got Vic tickets 25 minutes after they went on sale.

One reason for putting them all on sale at once is so the people that seem to have the "luck" don't grab all the tickets to all the shows.

You got lucky with your Vic tickets, I'd say.

If you were a betting person would you have bet money on the fact that the system crashed yesterday? Be honest. If they don't stagger the onsales...there are certainly other options that are viable? Right?

augustwest · February 2008

PEPPER wrote:

Last time I checked I saw people purchased and attended the show at The Vic...yesterday, people bought and will, I assume, be going to a shows in California.....how is this ticket thing NOT working. Fans are getting tickets, just because you did not get tickets does not mean it is broken...remember The World Does Not Revolve Around You.

It is hard to judge if the site is broken when the last two times tickets that were offered were for very small shows with limited availability.

If you don't even have a chance to get tickets in the first place how can that be called fair? The system crashed. It wasn't working.

A lottery would have been a better option...or make the min amount you can buy is for 1 EV show ONLY

dunkman · February 2008

augustwest wrote:

Question of the day...why sell all EV shows at once? Surely they must have known the system would crash??

i disagree.. its best to do it all in one day.. we had staggered sales for the Euro shows in 06 and it was a disaster..

i.e. i wanted say London tickets which were released 7 days after the other ones... if i didnt get lucky with London then i cant go back in time and try for another show.. know what i mean?

its hard to explain but basically if you release them in batches and the only ticket you want is in the last batch and you dont get one then bang goes your chances of getting any... whereas if they all are released at once.. and you see Vancouver is SOLD OUT it gives you another chance at a venue where you might have to travel... but you'll see a show.

if the server was better it'd cope with a release all in one go... its how every other tour is done.. batch releases would be a backwards step. (see The South fiasco in 06 also... they didnt go for North Tour tickets expecting a release of Southern dates afterwards... it never came!)

NY PJ1 · February 2008

cant be any worse than this

dunkman · February 2008

PEPPER wrote:

Last time I checked I saw people purchased and attended the show at The Vic...yesterday, people bought and will, I assume, be going to shows in California.....how is this ticket thing NOT working. Fans are getting tickets.

Just because you did not get tickets does not mean it is broken...remember The World Does Not Revolve Around You.

It is hard to judge if the site is broken when the last two times tickets that were offered were for very small shows with limited ticket availability.

thats sorta untrue... what was happening was the BUY button was showing and it allowed people to 'purchase' tickets... then it would go so far and then kick them out... meanwhile the ticket price was 'withheld' from that person account... so today you can read a few threads about people who have $1000 on their card as a pending transaction but no tickets... this is an example of the site not working... i believe the BUY button is still there... go ahead and try and buy 2 tickets... it'll let you and then right at the end will chuck you out.. but it will still 'retain' that cost from your credit card... of course this will be refunded in 3-5 days but what if i needed that money for something else in the meantime?

Fighting Hellfish · February 2008

I wouldn't mind the 2000 system, as long as you still have to pick your tickets up at the window, day of.

donnie · February 2008

Absolutely not! Those of us who do not live in a metropolitan area would never see a show! PJ has only come to my area of the globe once...ever. If I don't travel to see them, I won't see them. I'll take my chances online thanks. Worked for the Vic!

Urohawk · February 2008

donnie wrote:

Absolutely not! Those of us who do not live in a metropolitan area would never see a show! PJ has only come to my area of the globe once...ever. If I don't travel to see them, I won't see them. I'll take my chances online thanks. Worked for the Vic!

Thats not how the system would have to be set up. I am from Iowa and they rarely tour Iowa. In a reasonable system I could designate a show as my first priority say Chicago, St Louis, Minneapolis, etc. I would get priority over people from California for example.

It's easy. It would allow you to travel and still get a shot at tickets.

Urohawk · February 2008

Indifference wrote:

Going back to the mail - that is funny - how about we see if the Pony Express is available for servicing this.

Look man you can call your phone company and talk to a computer or you can get a real live person. You tell me what is better and what is newer of that combination. Technology isn't always the best.

Urohawk · February 2008

PEPPER wrote:

And for people who want to go back to the mail in for tickets I would recommend calling your doctor in advanced to treat your huge ulcer. So many things go thru your head worrying the payment makes it to the Ten Club. During this time tickets go on sale to the general public and you wonder if you should buy an extra set "just in case"...I hated those days

Read my post. It could be done on the computer with credit cards. Just standardize the system and go by seniority and local priority. It doesn't have to be snail mail.

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