are you against america

robbie · July 2007

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

i still after all these years fail to see how my freedom is:

1. threatened

2. needs to be defended by invading a country that had nothing to do with 9/11.

nobody has ever been able to explain this to me.

the greatest threat to my freedom and my way of life is the current president and his cronies. and unfortunately, no soldier can defend my freedom from them. attorneys and congressmen can not defend my freedom from them. they are above the law and do as they please. and that to me is dangerous.

cant you see the master plan? "they hate us because of our freedom" so we simply get rid of all that pesky freedom and they wont hate us anymore....

LikeAnOcean · July 2007

If I don't like 60% of the people I know, all Americans.. does that make me against America?

Byrnzie · July 2007

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

i still after all these years fail to see how my freedom is:

1. threatened

2. needs to be defended by invading a country that had nothing to do with 9/11.

nobody has ever been able to explain this to me.

the greatest threat to my freedom and my way of life is the current president and his cronies. and unfortunately, no soldier can defend my freedom from them. attorneys and congressmen can not defend my freedom from them. they are above the law and do as they please. and that to me is dangerous.

Well said.

Collin · July 2007

soulsinging wrote:

please tell me im not the only one who caught this gem!

tell me, friend, where in the bible or catholic doctrine you hold so dear does it say that americans deserve to be loved more than, say, israelis? or romans? i might be way off, but as i recall, jesus said something about loving EVERYONE.

I see I already made an appearance in this thread somehow

... anyway

I found it!!!

leviticus 19:33

"The stranger who dwells among you shall be to you as one born among you, and you shall love him as yourself; for you were strangers in the land of Egypt."

dunkman · July 2007

americans crack me up

i actually like America.... its some of the people in it that bother me

FinsburyParkCarrots · July 2007

dunkman wrote:

americans crack me up

i actually like America.... its some of the people in it that bother me

Yep, if they weren't over-emotional, loopy bastards with fake, unnaturally white teeth; if they weren't without spelling skills, and were beyond a mental age of about twelve at the highest, they'd be the greatest people on the planet!

BrinkofForever · July 2007

I love my country but I hate my government. How hard is that to understand?

Strangest Tribe · July 2007

Dirtie_Frank wrote:

My question is to all the Americans in this room, (sorry everyone you will see why). How many of you complain about the government about all of their policies, leaders, pretty much dislike the USA?

What I am trying to get at is that even though you say its so bad here in the US you still have the ability to talk about it. If you were living in some other countries you would most likely be imprissoned for speaking agains t the leaders of your country. So before you go and say we live in this dictatorship that i here you speak of think about it.

I seem to remeber a time right after September 11, 2001 that we were all united and proud of who we are.

I served my country and I am damn proud to be an American. So before you go and bash it and compare the US to Nazi Germany think twice please because many men and women gave their life for the freedoms you should hold dear.

If you don't speak out against what you believe is wrong with your country it can be conceived that you agree.

I can name 10 countries to every 1 country where freedom of speech is condoned. Saying you'll be imprisoned or executed in other countries for speaking your mind against the government is pure propaganda. What countries imprison you for speaking out against the government?

dunkman · July 2007

FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:

Yep, if they weren't over-emotional, loopy bastards with fake, unnaturally white teeth; if they weren't without spelling skills, and were beyond a mental age of about twelve at the highest, they'd be the greatest people on the planet!

give that man a medal.... and deep fry it first

Cosmo · July 2007

CorporateWhore wrote:

Americans have shared experiences, whether they know one another or not.

We listen to the same music, drive the same cars, speak the same language (hopefully), work in the same towns, read the same newspapers, talk about the same sports teams...etc etc etc

The list goes on and on. When you share these commonalities with other people, it makes them closer to your kin than if you don't.

...
But, it only extends to the streets where you live, right?
I mean, those assholes in New Orleans can go fuck themselves, can't they?

EyesForTheSkies · July 2007

Dirtie_Frank wrote:

My question is to all the Americans in this room, (sorry everyone you will see why). How many of you complain about the government about all of their policies, leaders, pretty much dislike the USA?

What I am trying to get at is that even though you say its so bad here in the US you still have the ability to talk about it. If you were living in some other countries you would most likely be imprissoned for speaking agains t the leaders of your country. So before you go and say we live in this dictatorship that i here you speak of think about it.

I seem to remeber a time right after September 11, 2001 that we were all united and proud of who we are.

I served my country and I am damn proud to be an American. So before you go and bash it and compare the US to Nazi Germany think twice please because many men and women gave their life for the freedoms you should hold dear.

that's funny, because -i- seem to remember a time right after 9/11 when the government passed such legislation as the Patriot Act, the National Security Act, and many other laws that quite literally ROBBED US of many of those "freedoms you should hold dear", and for what?--- to fight a war that isn't supposed to be won, in order to usurp the oil and establish military bases in the middle east--- and end that couldn't be reached by any other means...

if you don't see how 9/11 was an INSIDE JOB, and how the terror tactics being employed by our own government via the media is instilling fear in our citizens to the point where we're freely giving up our rights in the name of "homeland security", and how this EXACTLY PARALLELS Hitler and the Gestapo, then i would go back and take a 10th grade history class if i were you...

As a matter of fact, were you even aware that our great president's own grandfather was the head of a company that provided Nazi germany with not only fuel for their jets, but even the very gas used to kill MILLIONS in the gas chambers?... No, you probably weren't aware of that...

Maybe you need to stop blindly consuming what the GOVERNMENT CONTROLLED MEDIA is feeding you everyday, and wake up and see what's really going on..

THOSE WHO FORGET THE PAST ARE CONDEMNED TO REPEAT IT...

RolandTD20Kdrummer · July 2007

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

i still after all these years fail to see how my freedom is:

1. threatened

2. needs to be defended by invading a country that had nothing to do with 9/11.

nobody has ever been able to explain this to me.

the greatest threat to my freedom and my way of life is the current president and his cronies. and unfortunately, no soldier can defend my freedom from them. attorneys and congressmen can not defend my freedom from them. they are above the law and do as they please. and that to me is dangerous.

Isn't that the truth. Glad to see another with eyes open.

bee_boy · July 2007

FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:

Yep, if they weren't over-emotional, loopy bastards with fake, unnaturally white teeth; if they weren't without spelling skills, and were beyond a mental age of about twelve at the highest, they'd be the greatest people on the planet!

Dunno... I just feel they complain a lot when they have pretty much everything sorted out in their lives. I just say this because I know what it is like to live in a 3rd world country. Different perspective you see... It just sounds like whining to me

RolandTD20Kdrummer · July 2007

g under p wrote:

Always will love America, my daughter was born here. However, I taught her to never be afraid to question our authoritative figureheads.

I can remember several months after 9/II a woman horned me down because I had another country's flag in my truck. She said, "why do you have "that" flag, where's America's flag?" I calmy turned to her and said, "I like this flag and at this time I have a right to carry "this" flag". She scorned and scuffed off not liking what I said, I gather she wanted a more distasteful reaction.

I was not going to follow the crowd with at the time our perceived Patriotism. For the last 2 years, I now proudly wear in my truck my small stick American Flag as our perceived Patriotism wanes in America today.

Peace
Earle

What you didn't shoot her in the face? Seems unpatriotic to me

RolandTD20Kdrummer · July 2007

bee_boy wrote:

Dunno... I just feel they complain a lot when they have pretty much everything sorted out in their lives. I just say this because I know what it is like to live in a 3rd world country. Different perspective you see... It just sounds like whining to me

What wanting to stop a political power hungry regime that is murdering people in other countries turning them effectively into third world countries?

It's like that huge mentally challenged literary/cartoon character that keep killing bunnies by petting them.

bee_boy · July 2007

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

What wanting to stop a political power hungry regime that is murdering people in other countries turning them effectively into third world countries?

It's like that huge mentally challenged literary/cartoon character that keep killing bunnies by petting them.

As far as I could tell, the complaining in this board is about the government's internal policies, not about their foreign relations and aid to other countries. I respect and admire the fact that many people are against the war in Iraq and all those things that claim innocent lives... What I don't understand is how a lot of Americans feel as if they lived in a shithole when they obviously don't.

decides2dream · July 2007

FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:

Yep, if they weren't over-emotional, loopy bastards with fake, unnaturally white teeth; if they weren't without spelling skills, and were beyond a mental age of about twelve at the highest, they'd be the greatest people on the planet!

yea, no worries...we love ye drunken irish too!

know1 · July 2007

I'm generally against nationalism, so I guess in a sense I might be against some concept of America.

But...
I think the people who whine and complain about America at every turn and paint it and its citizens with broad, stereotypical strokes are a bunch of idiots.

soulsinging · July 2007

Byrnzie wrote:

What has Donald Rumsfeld done for America? Or Ted Bundy? Or Joseph McCarthy?

what have the romans really ever done for us???

FiveB247x · July 2007

The beliefs, ideas and values this nation was founded upon is what people should cherish. The politicians and officials are merely passing through the government as workers.

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