Why is Gun Control a BAD thing?

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  • SilverSeed
    SilverSeed Posts: 336
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    Well, i was diagnosed with ADHD when i was 15.

    How can i be assured that "they" won't consider me crazy?

    And do i have to take it to court and spend thousands of dollars to prove i am not?

    You don't see the whole "slippery slope" side of this?

    Its fucking retarded.

    So anyone that is diagnosed as bi-polar shouldn't be able to own a gun?

    Yeah right.

    How about Post Traumatic Stress Disorder?

    Should we take away guns from all our returning veterans?

    Bwahahahahah.

    Come on.

    This is just lame-o.


    BTW,
    WE ALREADY HAVE GUN CONTROL, FYI.
    Why do we need more?

    Gun Control Act of 1968
    Prohibited persons
    Under the GCA, firearms possession by certain categories individuals is prohibited.

    Anyone who is under the age of 18, except with the written permission of their parent or guardian.
    Anyone who has been convicted in a federal court of a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding 1 year, excluding crimes of imprisonment that are related to the regulation of business practices.
    Anyone who has been convicted in a state court of a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding 2 years, excluding crimes of imprisonment that are related to the regulation of business practices.
    Anyone who is a fugitive from justice.
    Anyone who is an unlawful user of or addicted to any controlled substance.
    Anyone who has been adjudicated as a mental defective or has been committed to a mental institution.
    Any alien illegally or unlawfully in the United States or an alien admitted to the United States under a nonimmigrant visa.
    Anyone who has been discharged from the US Armed Forces under dishonorable conditions.
    Anyone who, having been a citizen of the United States, has renounced his or her citizenship.
    Anyone that is subject to a court order that restrains the person from harassing, stalking, or threatening an intimate partner or child of such intimate partner.
    Anyone who has been convicted of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence. (See the Lautenberg Amendment.)
    A person who is under indictment or information for a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year cannot lawfully receive a firearm. Such person may continue to lawfully possess firearms obtained prior to the indictment or information.

    The Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act of 1993 created a national background check system to prevent firearms sales to such "prohibited persons."

    You do understand that the slippery slope you refer to is an argumentative fallacy... You've literally said "Here is my argument and why it is wrong."
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  • Medicated-Genius
    Medicated-Genius Posts: 359
    Im still here wrote:
    Simply put, you trust the Government figures, blindly believing they would never lie to you. You are going to have a rude awakening very soon........


    Simply put, I am more inclined to believe the facts and statistics than I am someone who seems to think that tighter gun control laws are going to mean the death of me. When my government begins to exterminate millions of unarmed Australians, I will eat my words.

    The point of my involvement in this particular argument, was to prove that tight gun control laws over here did not result in an increase in firearms related deaths. You are yet to prove otherwise.
  • Im still here
    Im still here Posts: 826
    Medicated-Genius wrote:
    Simply put, I am more inclined to believe the facts and statistics than I am someone who seems to think that tighter gun control laws are going to mean the death of me. When my government begins to exterminate millions of unarmed Australians, I will eat my words.

    The point of my involvement in this particular argument, was to prove that tight gun control laws over here did not result in an increase in firearms related deaths. You are yet to prove otherwise.

    Maybe a fascist Australian Society is what you are already living under......

    http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,16738500-29277,00.html
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  • Medicated-Genius
    Medicated-Genius Posts: 359
    Im still here wrote:
    Maybe a fascist Australian Society is what you are alreday living under......

    http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,16738500-29277,00.html


    Ok, for a start, John Howard is no longer Prime Minister. I am feeling hopeful about Kevin Rudd, he's already made some really positive moves after only a short time on the job. John Howard was notorious for being a butt kisser to the US, trying to fashion Australia into a mini American and trying to spread the fear here that US government seems to have succeeded in doing over there. I can tell ya though, no fucker over here is buying and that message was conveyed to Howard in the last election.

    Besides that, this is a separate issue to the original argument and statements that gun deaths are outta control here since the gun buy back or that the Australian government will start rounding up people and exterminating them. These new gun control laws have been in place since 1996, 12 years, and well, it's yet to happen. Like I said, if it does, I will eat my words.
  • stupidcorporatewhore
    stupidcorporatewhore Posts: 761
    Im still here wrote:
    Google Rex 84, go about 5 or 10 pages deep, the truth is never on the first page, wonder why?

    "Plan for Government Continuity"

    It's incredibly farfetched though I'd never put it past em

    the number of people they'd need to put this into effect would be MASSIVE.

    Our army is elswhere, our cops can barely keep the peace of the areas they try to control and the blackwater payroll would bankrupt the US.

    In either case, anyone who's coming after you to put you in a camp is probably wearing body armour and will most likely not be detered by the 38 special you have in your nightstand drawer.
  • Hinny
    Hinny Posts: 1,610
    Medicated-Genius wrote:
    Besides that, this is a separate issue to the original argument and statements that gun deaths are outta control here since the gun buy back or that the Australian government will start rounding up people and exterminating them. These new gun control laws have been in place since 1996, 12 years, and well, it's yet to happen. Like I said, if it does, I will eat my words.
    There's really no point to responding to this guy seriously. He believes he knows more about the impact of gun laws than us locals and the ABS, a public service that is independent of the government. Nothing you say will change his mind, and anyone reading these posts will see just how wrong he and his sources are.
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  • Im still here
    Im still here Posts: 826
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  • Medicated-Genius
    Medicated-Genius Posts: 359
    Hinny wrote:
    There's really no point to responding to this guy seriously. He believes he knows more about the impact of gun laws than us locals and the ABS, a public service that is independent of the government. Nothing you say will change his mind, and anyone reading these posts will see just how wrong he and his sources are.


    You're right. It's evident in pretty much all his posts. It's just a little breathtaking how ignorant and brainwashed some people can get, all the while accusing you of being a blind follower. For the most part, I've been chuckling my way through this thread.
  • stupidcorporatewhore
    stupidcorporatewhore Posts: 761
    Im still here wrote:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_YTM_eAWnQ

    it's compelling and completely insane.

    makes me want to live in another country.

    the inmates are truly running the asylum.

    in my opinion and my opinion ONLY carrying a gun would be a manifestation of living in fear and I refuse to live in fear.
  • Im still here
    Im still here Posts: 826
    stupidcorporatewhore wrote:
    it's compelling and completely insane.

    makes me want to live in another country.

    the inmates are truly running the asylum.

    in my opinion and my opinion ONLY carrying a gun would be a manifestation of living in fear and I refuse to live in fear.

    so you would rather be a victim than be able to defend yourself?
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  • Rhinocerous Surprise
    Rhinocerous Surprise Posts: 4,423
    Im still here wrote:
    so you would rather be a victim than be able to defend yourself?

    Defend himself from what? As far I'm aware, no one's come in here saying the government is storming his house to enslave him. I think you're taking your victim complex a little too far.
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  • Im still here
    Im still here Posts: 826
    Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:
    Defend himself from what? As far I'm aware, no one's come in here saying the government is storming his house to enslave him. I think you're taking your victim complex a little too far.

    I am no victim, I am not scared in the least.....

    try again.....
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  • Rhinocerous Surprise
    Rhinocerous Surprise Posts: 4,423
    Im still here wrote:
    I am no victim, I am not scared in the least.....

    try again.....

    If you're not scared, why cling so tight to your precious pea-shooter?
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  • Nevermind
    Nevermind Posts: 1,006
    Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:
    If you're not scared, why cling so tight to your precious pea-shooter?
    Because its our right.
  • Rhinocerous Surprise
    Rhinocerous Surprise Posts: 4,423
    Nevermind wrote:
    Because its our right.

    Doesn't make it a good thing. And if you can't see that in light of the events of the last week, I worry for you.

    In fact, the combination of fear, paranoia, and sheer wrong-headedness I'm seeing from some people on here is making me have some serious reservations about visiting the States next month. Gun nuts freak me out bad...
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  • Nevermind
    Nevermind Posts: 1,006
    Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:
    Doesn't make it a good thing. And if you can't see that in light of the events of the last week, I worry for you.

    In fact, the combination of fear, paranoia, and sheer wrong-headedness I'm seeing from some people on here is making me have some serious reservations about visiting the States next month. Gun nuts freak me out bad...
    Last week a kid on anti-depressants shot up a school. A kid at Virginia Tech who was also on anti-deppressants shot up his college. Columbine, some kids on, lets guess, antidepressants shot up their school. Their are reasons for everything.
  • Rhinocerous Surprise
    Rhinocerous Surprise Posts: 4,423
    Nevermind wrote:
    Last week a kid on anti-depressants shot up a school. A kid at Virginia Tech who was also on anti-deppressants shot up his college. Columbine, some kids on, lets guess, antidepressants shot up their school. Their are reasons for everything.

    And a kid in Ireland on anti-depressants shot no one. There's a reason for that too.
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  • Nevermind
    Nevermind Posts: 1,006
    Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:
    And a kid in Ireland on anti-depressants shot no one. There's a reason for that too.
    Probably cause your more stable than other morons.
  • Rhinocerous Surprise
    Rhinocerous Surprise Posts: 4,423
    Nevermind wrote:
    Probably cause your more stable than other morons.

    Yeah, we're the stablest of all the morons. :rolleyes:

    Keep blaming the drugs if you want... But anti-depressants are widely available in Ireland, England, Scotland, Wales and the rest of Europe, as well as the US. The only thing that isn't uniform is the school-shooting rate.

    How can the recent tragedies not make you question these things just a little bit deeper than "Well... it is in the constitution..."
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  • Nevermind
    Nevermind Posts: 1,006
    Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:
    Yeah, we're the stablest of all the morons. :rolleyes:

    Keep blaming the drugs if you want... But anti-depressants are widely available in Ireland, England, Scotland, Wales and the rest of Europe, as well as the US. The only thing that isn't uniform is the school-shooting rate.

    How can the recent tragedies not make you question these things just a little bit deeper than "Well... it is in the constitution..."
    Isnt that because the gun ban?

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