If Election Day 2008 was today who would get your vote?

musicismylife78
musicismylife78 Posts: 6,116
edited March 2007 in A Moving Train
Who would you vote for?

There is no way in hell Kucinich will get the Dem nomination. Hilary has that locked up. Everyone loves a Clinton!

I would vote for Nader, or possibly even a socialist candidate. Leonard Peltier may be running again.

For me, it all boils down to the war. If you are for bringing all the troops home immediately, you get my vote. If not, I am not voting for you. No candidate on either side, no way in hell the antiwar republican chuck hagel will be the republican nominee. And no way the dems will ever nominate anyone with a prinicpled stand against the war. All this despite the overwhelming evidence that whoever wins in 2008 MUST gain the antiwar vote. THEY MUST.

Heres to hoping a vote for a third party is unnecessary. But as long as the dems continue, to believe, not that this war is unwinnable, or that this war cant be won and we must pull out, but as long as they lie to themselves and us, that this war is winnable, and if only we elect a dem who will win it for us, its all silly. Its not a idealogical difference between the dems and the republicans over iraq. Its a tactical one. The Dems still think we can win it, win the war.
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  • Bu2
    Bu2 Posts: 1,693
    I would vote for Barack Obama. He was against the war in 2002 and he's still against it. He's written up a plan that will get our troops out of Iraq by March 2008, in planned stages. Not only that, but he is one of the few candidates able (and willing) to reach across party lines to get legislation written. And he reacts very swiftly to crises. In this past week alone he has written two bills in response to the Walter Reed fiasco.
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  • KidCarnivore
    KidCarnivore Posts: 82
    Ron Paul
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  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    Bu2 wrote:
    I would vote for Barack Obama. He was against the war in 2002 and he's still against it. He's written up a plan that will get our troops out of Iraq by March 2008, in planned stages. Not only that, but he is one of the few candidates able (and willing) to reach across party lines to get legislation written. And he reacts very swiftly to crises. In this past week alone he has written two bills in response to the Walter Reed fiasco.
    But Obama hasalso made it clear in no uncertain terms that he will still see the war through, making sure that US imperialistic goals will be met. His “phased redeployment” will continue “protecting our interests in the region..."

    I'm leaning toward Kucinich (thanks abook, for the links....).
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    Commy wrote:
    But Obama hasalso made it clear in no uncertain terms that he will still see the war through, making sure that US imperialistic goals will be met. His “phased redeployment” will continue “protecting our interests in the region..."

    I'm leaning toward Kucinich (thanks abook, for the links).

    No prob, Commy :)

    Kucinich, an actual anti war candidate
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  • rigneyclan
    rigneyclan Posts: 289
    Al Gore.
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  • stickfig13
    stickfig13 Posts: 1,532
    rudy
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  • Bu2
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    http://www.barackobama.com/2002/10/26/remarks_of_illinois_state_sen.php
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  • kenny olav
    kenny olav Posts: 3,319
    Mike Gravel

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  • gobrowns19
    gobrowns19 Posts: 1,447
    rigneyclan wrote:
    Al Gore.

    I agree.
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  • IlovveePJ
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    stickfig13 wrote:
    rudy
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  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    KidCarnivore wrote:
    Ron Paul

    I'll second that.
  • mattosborne
    mattosborne Posts: 339
    The original poster:

    You're very wrong about Hillary having it locked up, far from it. She's the front runner AT THIS POINT but, that could easily change.

    If I had to cast my vote right now it would be Barack Obama.

    My preference would be Al Gore. He's a great humanitarian, overall a great human being and deserves the white house.

    To all you people who are going to vote for a 3rd party on November 8th, think hard about what you're doing. At a time like we're in, it's more important to cast a vote based on WHAT IS BEST for the country rather than making a political statement. Vote for someone who can win, sacrifice a few personal beliefs for the country.
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  • musicismylife78
    musicismylife78 Posts: 6,116
    mattosborne wrote:

    To all you people who are going to vote for a 3rd party on November 8th, think hard about what you're doing. At a time like we're in, it's more important to cast a vote based on WHAT IS BEST for the country rather than making a political statement. Vote for someone who can win, sacrifice a few personal beliefs for the country.




    If none of the Dems are calling for complete withdrawal from Iraq and an end to the war, why should I vote for them in the name of whats best for the country? Whats best for the country is a Nader or a Kucinich, someome who will radically change society. Is Al Gore any different than Bush. Remember Clear Channel, that was Bush. But remember, that Parents counsil on music. Al Gore and his wife believe that marilyn manson, and Rap and other types of music are damaging to youth and need to be censored. he is also pro Nafta and Wto. I know i am not the only person who feels much more in line and much more inspired by those WTO seattle anti-wto riots, than I do about Gores pro-wto stanco.

    If Gore is proIraq war and if most of the other dems in 2008 are pro continuing this war, why should they get my vote?
  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    Another Ron Paul vote here.
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  • mca47
    mca47 Posts: 13,337
    Obama
  • musicismylife78
    musicismylife78 Posts: 6,116
    i love how democrats suggest NO TIME is ever right for a third party candidate, 2000 wasnt 2002 wasnt 2004 wasnt 2006 wasnt and 2008 wont be.

    Dems acted like in 2000 that Nader shouldnt run, but that he could run in the future, yet they say that every year.

    Its simple:

    You are antiwar, and will pull troops out and end the war. I am voting for you. If not kiss that vote goodbye.

    And right now, there is a plethera of prowar candidates and very few antiwar cats
  • kenny olav
    kenny olav Posts: 3,319
    I don't think Nader should run again because he's run 3 times already and clearly hasn't gained enough traction.

    I doubt he will get the Democratic nomination, but I really like Mike Gravel. If we end up with Clinton or Obama, then I might feel its best to vote for one of them. I will only feel like voting for a third party or independent candidate if I feel like that person represents a growing movement. That's how I felt about Nader in 2000. But the Green Party movement fell apart. Personally, I feel there should be a more populist approach to reforming government. Political puritanism is dead in the water. There are things that are way more important than gay marriage, for example. Compromise is what's needed to take care of the biggest problems that I think the vast majority of people agree with, like tackling government corruption.
  • LikeAnOcean
    LikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    mca47 wrote:
    Obama
    I agree with the Cubs fan for a change. :D:p
  • sourdough
    sourdough Posts: 579
    Stephane Dion.
  • Rushlimbo
    Rushlimbo Posts: 832
    Hugo Chavez or Al Sharpton. Not sure which yet but I think Al has the lead.
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