He seems to be doing a good job of reminding everyone that he was against the war in Iraq from the beginning...and as right as he is about going back to the gold standard, I think he should stick to talking about issues more people are interested in.
The issues "more people are interested in" are using government to do their jobs and dirty work for them. This kind of precludes Ron Paul's principles and ideals. So, as I said, his campaign is doomed.
The issues "more people are interested in" are using government to do their jobs and dirty work for them. This kind of precludes Ron Paul's principles and ideals. So, as I said, his campaign is doomed.
Ron Paul and Alex Jones are close friends and believes in many of the same ideas as he does. How do you reconcile that as someone who has ridiculed Jones supporters in the past?
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Ron Paul and Alex Jones are close friends and believes in many of the same ideas as he does. How do you reconcile that as someone who has ridiculed Jones supporters in the past?
Just because Ron Paul didn't like the 9/11 investigations doesn't put him in the Alex Jones invent-some-bullshit-to-further-my-anti-government-agenda-that-ironically-is-largely-accepted-by-big-goverment-liberals camp.
Just because Ron Paul didn't like the 9/11 investigations doesn't put him in the Alex Jones invent-some-bullshit-to-further-my-anti-government-agenda-that-ironically-is-largely-accepted-by-big-goverment-liberals camp.
The people questioning this aren't just liberal, I've heard it from libertarians, too. I don't see it as a liberal issue at all.
I'm not saying it's a liberal issue. I'm saying it's a predominantly liberal issue.
Alex Jones himself is a staunch libertarian. You'd probably disagree with 95% of his views outside a 9/11 context, whereas I'd agree with them. It's not surprising in the least bit that we support the same candidate.
I'm not saying it's a liberal issue. I'm saying it's a predominantly liberal issue.
Alex Jones himself is a staunch libertarian. You'd probably disagree with 95% of his views outside a 9/11 context, whereas I'd agree with them. It's not surprising in the least bit that we support the same candidate.
I don't think it's a political issue, period. I think it's simply questioning something when you feel you've been lied to...it's that simple. I already know Alex Jones is a libertarian...he has a nice part in my favorite movie 'Waking Life'.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
If Ron Paul starts running around talking about how 9/11 was an "inside job" using BBC clips, squibs, and comparisons between plane widths and holes in concrete, all the while showing a proclivity to dramatic music and innuendo, I won't be voting for him.
I don't think it's a political issue, period. I think it's simply questioning something when you feel you've been lied to...it's that simple. I already know Alex Jones is a libertarian...he has a nice part in my favorite movie 'Waking Life'.
We've been over this a few times...you can't hide conculsions behind "questioning". This is why I despise Jones as journalist/scientist. He'll frame a "question" in a form wherein his conclusion takes precedence and pretend that he's "seeking answers".
Jones and his disciples already have their answers. And they'll spend the next 40 years desperately looking for ways to ask the correct questions such that they're right.
I don't think it's a political issue, period. I think it's simply questioning something when you feel you've been lied to...it's that simple. I already know Alex Jones is a libertarian...he has a nice part in my favorite movie 'Waking Life'.
he he, just watched a preview of your favorite movie - looks way cool.. I'll be watching it soon:)
We've been over this a few times...you can't hide conculsions behind "questioning". This is why I despise Jones as journalist/scientist. He'll frame a "question" in a form wherein his conclusion takes precedence and pretend that he's "seeking answers".
Jones and his disciples already have their answers. And they'll spend the next 40 years desperately looking for ways to ask the correct questions such that they're right.
I think because you disagree, you write off all of his points, and there have been plenty good ones, as already having his mind made up. Even if that is the case, it DOES NOT negate the questions and concerns he raises.
Here's his bit from Waking Life....boy does he get into it, hehe. I just thought I'd post for anyone interested.
I think because you disagree, you write off all of his points, and there have been plenty good ones, as already having his mind made up. Even if that is the case, it DOES NOT negate the questions and concerns he raises.
Here's his bit from Waking Life....boy does he get into it, hehe. I just thought I'd post for anyone interested.
I don't write off all his points. I actually agree with everything in the above video.
What you don't see is how those points have motivated Jones to abandon reason. He's given into his own anger and hate and, in the process, helped hook the world on his own lie, figuring that will be better than the other lies they're hooked on otherwise.
The issues "more people are interested in" are using government to do their jobs and dirty work for them. This kind of precludes Ron Paul's principles and ideals. So, as I said, his campaign is doomed.
You're right. I'm not critical of Paul, but I think he could have used his small platform at CPAC to appeal to some of the few remaining small-gov't Republicans.
"All governments are murderers and liars."
-Bill Hicks
You're right. I'm not critical of Paul, but I think he could have used his small platform at CPAC to appeal to some of the few remaining small-gov't Republicans.
I think Paul remains one of the last heroes of small-gov't Republicans. The problem isn't his, the problem is there aren't too many small-gov't Republicans left. Most of them sold out long ago.
What you don't see is how those points have motivated Jones to abandon reason. He's given into his own anger and hate and, in the process, helped hook the world on his own lie, figuring that will be better than the other lies they're hooked on otherwise.
I guess it just depends on what you choose to swallow. None of us investigated the events ourselves. You can read the official account and go from there or you can read reports from people who disagree and think that account is unreasonable. Better yet, read them both and decide. Either way you're agruing from your own perpsective of who you chose to believe not firsthand accounts or your own independent investigation. You have no monopoly on reason, ffg.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Hehe...no I don't. But reason is an objective thing. In any disagreement wherein two positions exist and only one of them is correct, reason is only found in the correct one. The other is marked by a failure of reason.
Suffice to say that the position that appeals to your emotions more than your mind is, while not necessarily wrong, always suspect.
Hehe...no I don't. But reason is an objective thing. In any disagreement wherein two positions exist and only one of them is correct, reason is only found in the correct one. The other is marked by a failure of reason.
Suffice to say that the position that appeals to your emotions more than your mind is, while not necessarily wrong, always suspect.
I'm not using my emotion on this, infact I'm pretty sure I've always argued from a logical stand point on this issue.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Hehe...no I don't. But reason is an objective thing. In any disagreement wherein two positions exist and only one of them is correct, reason is only found in the correct one. The other is marked by a failure of reason.
Suffice to say that the position that appeals to your emotions more than your mind is, while not necessarily wrong, always suspect.
Hehehe. Go buy some cookies.
War is Peace
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is Strength
I'm not talking about you here, abook. I'm talking about the guy you're defending.
I also see plenty of logic in AJ's reasoning. He has made lots of good points and so have many people on this board who have posed questions concerning 911 and the inside job theory.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
I also see plenty of logic in AJ's reasoning. He has made lots of good points and so have many people on this board who have posed questions concerning 911 and the inside job theory.
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Yay, John's 1 and only vote! (From somebody in England!?)
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The issues "more people are interested in" are using government to do their jobs and dirty work for them. This kind of precludes Ron Paul's principles and ideals. So, as I said, his campaign is doomed.
Ron Paul and Alex Jones are close friends and believes in many of the same ideas as he does. How do you reconcile that as someone who has ridiculed Jones supporters in the past?
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is Strength
By not voting for Alex Jones, of course.
Um, yeah. Voting for a guy who believes in the same things you ridicule another man for believing is called hypocrisy.
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is Strength
Ron Paul doesn't believe in the things I 'ridicule' others about. But thanks for playing.
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
http://www.rightnation.us/forums/index.php?automodule=blog&blogid=7&showentry=1750
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LR31DZrrYDI
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Just because Ron Paul didn't like the 9/11 investigations doesn't put him in the Alex Jones invent-some-bullshit-to-further-my-anti-government-agenda-that-ironically-is-largely-accepted-by-big-goverment-liberals camp.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul200.html
The people questioning this aren't just liberal, I've heard it from libertarians, too. I don't see it as a liberal issue at all.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
I'm not saying it's a liberal issue. I'm saying it's a predominantly liberal issue.
Alex Jones himself is a staunch libertarian. You'd probably disagree with 95% of his views outside a 9/11 context, whereas I'd agree with them. It's not surprising in the least bit that we support the same candidate.
I don't think it's a political issue, period. I think it's simply questioning something when you feel you've been lied to...it's that simple. I already know Alex Jones is a libertarian...he has a nice part in my favorite movie 'Waking Life'.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
If Ron Paul starts running around talking about how 9/11 was an "inside job" using BBC clips, squibs, and comparisons between plane widths and holes in concrete, all the while showing a proclivity to dramatic music and innuendo, I won't be voting for him.
We've been over this a few times...you can't hide conculsions behind "questioning". This is why I despise Jones as journalist/scientist. He'll frame a "question" in a form wherein his conclusion takes precedence and pretend that he's "seeking answers".
Jones and his disciples already have their answers. And they'll spend the next 40 years desperately looking for ways to ask the correct questions such that they're right.
he he, just watched a preview of your favorite movie - looks way cool.. I'll be watching it soon:)
I think because you disagree, you write off all of his points, and there have been plenty good ones, as already having his mind made up. Even if that is the case, it DOES NOT negate the questions and concerns he raises.
Here's his bit from Waking Life....boy does he get into it, hehe. I just thought I'd post for anyone interested.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KjxyjfXwws
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
I know you'd like it, Abu.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
I don't write off all his points. I actually agree with everything in the above video.
What you don't see is how those points have motivated Jones to abandon reason. He's given into his own anger and hate and, in the process, helped hook the world on his own lie, figuring that will be better than the other lies they're hooked on otherwise.
-Bill Hicks
I think Paul remains one of the last heroes of small-gov't Republicans. The problem isn't his, the problem is there aren't too many small-gov't Republicans left. Most of them sold out long ago.
I was talking about his points concerning 9/11. He's made good points, nonetheless
I guess it just depends on what you choose to swallow. None of us investigated the events ourselves. You can read the official account and go from there or you can read reports from people who disagree and think that account is unreasonable. Better yet, read them both and decide. Either way you're agruing from your own perpsective of who you chose to believe not firsthand accounts or your own independent investigation. You have no monopoly on reason, ffg.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Hehe...no I don't. But reason is an objective thing. In any disagreement wherein two positions exist and only one of them is correct, reason is only found in the correct one. The other is marked by a failure of reason.
Suffice to say that the position that appeals to your emotions more than your mind is, while not necessarily wrong, always suspect.
I'm not using my emotion on this, infact I'm pretty sure I've always argued from a logical stand point on this issue.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Hehehe. Go buy some cookies.
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is Strength
I'm not talking about you here, abook. I'm talking about the guy you're defending.
No need to. I already have lots, as I'm sure you know based on your comment above. Do you want to tell me about reason too?
I also see plenty of logic in AJ's reasoning. He has made lots of good points and so have many people on this board who have posed questions concerning 911 and the inside job theory.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Fair enough, abook.