The Greatest American Concern

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  • Purple Hawk
    Purple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    world wrote:
    My greatest concern:

    People that think that Democrats are different from Republicans.

    my greatest concern is that people that don't think there IS a difference between the two parties actually come to power someday.
    And you ask me what I want this year
    And I try to make this kind and clear
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
    Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
    And desire and love and empty things
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
  • Rushlimbo
    Rushlimbo Posts: 832
    Purple Hawk wrote:
    my greatest concern is that people that don't think there IS a difference between the two parties actually come to power someday.


    That guy was Bush if you believed his lies -- "I'm a uniter". Hate to burst your bubble but you've been bamboozled, dumbfuck.
    War is Peace
    Freedom is Slavery
    Ignorance is Strength
  • Purple Hawk
    Purple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    Rushlimbo wrote:
    That guy was Bush if you believed his lies -- "I'm a uniter". Hate to burst your bubble but you've been bamboozled, dumbfuck.

    Hate to burst your bubble, but Bush hasn't divided anything, he's a pretty liberal Republican...which I can get in line with. But if you think he's a divider, you don't know much about political science. Clearly the parties in the electorate are divided, and Democrats would view ANY Republican President as a divider...

    If you compare Bush to other Republicans in government and Republican voters....it's simple, he's a moderate, and obviously NOT a "polarizing" figure.

    best regards,
    dumbfuck
    And you ask me what I want this year
    And I try to make this kind and clear
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
    Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
    And desire and love and empty things
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
  • Rushlimbo
    Rushlimbo Posts: 832
    Purple Hawk wrote:
    Hate to burst your bubble, but Bush hasn't divided anything, he's a pretty liberal Republican...which I can get in line with. But if you think he's a divider, you don't know much about political science. Clearly the parties in the electorate are divided, and Democrats would view ANY Republican President as a divider...

    If you compare Bush to other Republicans in government and Republican voters....it's simple, he's a moderate, and obviously NOT a "polarizing" figure.

    best regards,
    dumbfuck

    Wow, those blinders must help you sleep all day long. Bush is not a divider -- try again you limpdick sheep. LOL, you truly are a dumbshit.
    War is Peace
    Freedom is Slavery
    Ignorance is Strength
  • Purple Hawk
    Purple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    Rushlimbo wrote:
    Wow, those blinders must help you sleep all day long. Bush is not a divider -- try again you limpdick sheep. LOL, you truly are a dumbshit.

    can you give an exampe of why he's a divider? or a true conservative for that matter? can you tell me how he is more conservative than JFK? Can you tell me where he stands ideologically in realation to Republican governors and Republicans in Congress? Or where he stands in relation to most Republican voters?
    And you ask me what I want this year
    And I try to make this kind and clear
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
    Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
    And desire and love and empty things
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    Purple Hawk wrote:
    my greatest concern is that people that don't think there IS a difference between the two parties actually come to power someday.


    If the two parties are any different foreign policy would have changed in the last 60 years. Its hasn't, that should tell you something. And gov't, whether dem or rep, has been handing out tax dollars to corporations-giving away as many dollars to corporations as they spend on social services-again, a constant policy, regardless of the party in power.

    There's doves and hawks... but they have the same agendas. Doves would prefer to let a country's army overthrow the popular elected leaders to replace them with a US puppet, while the hawks prefer outright invasion. Either way the goal is conquest. And you have doves and hawks labelled democrat or republican.

    Its not a 2 party system...its a corporate party running gov't, and the people have no meaningful say in gov't policy, the idea of the policy makers from the beginning. If a country is democratic to the extent that the people have meaningful participation in the decision making process-which is true-then the United States can in no way be considered a democracy. And if you have a one party system they have a name for that-its called fascism.
  • Purple Hawk
    Purple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    Commy wrote:
    If the two parties are any different foreign policy would have changed in the last 60 years. Its hasn't, that should tell you something. And gov't, whether dem or rep, has been handing out tax dollars to corporations-giving away as many dollars to corporations as they spend on social services-again, a constant policy, regardless of the party in power.

    There's doves and hawks... but they have the same agendas. Doves would prefer to let a country's army overthrow the popular elected leaders to replace them with a US puppet, while the hawks prefer outright invasion. Either way the goal is conquest. And you have doves and hawks labelled democrat or republican.

    Its not a 2 party system...its a corporate party running gov't, and the people have no meaningful say in gov't policy, the idea of the policy makers from the beginning. If a country is democratic to the extent that the people have meaningful participation in the decision making process-which is true-then the United States can in no way be considered a democracy. And if you have a one party system they have a name for that-its called fascism.

    So...unless your view is that capitalism is evil (not a mainstream view)...the parties are further apart today than they have been in 80 years. I'm not trying to wage a personal attack here, but only people on either one of the fringes can't see a difference between today's Reps and Dems.
    And you ask me what I want this year
    And I try to make this kind and clear
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
    Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
    And desire and love and empty things
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
  • cinredzfan47
    cinredzfan47 Posts: 81
    Purple Hawk wrote:
    can you give an exampe of why he's a divider? or a true conservative for that matter? can you tell me how he is more conservative than JFK? Can you tell me where he stands ideologically in realation to Republican governors and Republicans in Congress? Or where he stands in relation to most Republican voters?

    I would like this. In all the posts I've seen you make in the past couple of days, I've yet to see you actually respond to ONE post without solely bashing their point of view. I don't know how old you are, but I can tell you that you will not get very far in life at all if that is the only thing you. Seriously, be mature for a change and respond to his question, don't just call him some "Right wing zealot" or something like that (I'm not saying thats what that guy is).
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    1. Lack of individual responsibility and the tendency to blame others for one's situation

    2. Laziness
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • Abuskedti
    Abuskedti Posts: 1,917
    know1 wrote:
    1. Lack of individual responsibility and the tendency to blame others for one's situation

    2. Laziness

    isn't that silly.. I can see where you blame these things for some of the wrongs in the world....

    But surely even you'd prefer that oppression and starvation were conquered even at the cost of our having to deal with lazy people.
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    Abuskedti wrote:
    isn't that silly.. I can see where you blame these things for some of the wrongs in the world....

    But surely even you'd prefer that oppression and starvation were conquered even at the cost of our having to deal with lazy people.

    I'm sorry - I thought the question was the greatest AMERICAN concern. As in - what's wrong with the USA. So that's the way I answered it.

    By the way - what is YOUR opinion since you're so eager to criticize others?
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • 1970RR
    1970RR Posts: 281
    The growth of government power and corresponding erosion on privacy and freedom through the "War on Drugs", "War on Terror" and the "War on Whatever We Are Scared of Next".
  • Purple Hawk
    Purple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    cinredzfan47 wrote:
    I would like this. In all the posts I've seen you make in the past couple of days, I've yet to see you actually respond to ONE post without solely bashing their point of view. I don't know how old you are, but I can tell you that you will not get very far in life at all if that is the only thing you. Seriously, be mature for a change and respond to his question, don't just call him some "Right wing zealot" or something like that (I'm not saying thats what that guy is).

    He called Bush a divider and me a dumbshit and part of the flock of sheep. I was the one asking a question...How is Bush a divider? How is that me bashing someone's view? I also started a thread asking how Democrats would fight the war on terror and never got an answer.
    And you ask me what I want this year
    And I try to make this kind and clear
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
    Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
    And desire and love and empty things
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,973
    surferdude wrote:
    This stupid board doesn't let you bold stuff to signify a change. It's not like I put anything bad in the quote though.

    Have you looked at the vB code link in the bottom left corner?

    Love,
    Kat
    Falling down,...not staying down
  • oil alternative
    oil alternative Posts: 192

    kat is right

    spot on in fact
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    To break down borders and realise that we are one species and then the true patriotism comes from pride and love of the human race, not from the tribes of which we currently are divided, open your eyes your mind will see! - ME
  • Abuskedti
    Abuskedti Posts: 1,917
    know1 wrote:
    I'm sorry - I thought the question was the greatest AMERICAN concern. As in - what's wrong with the USA. So that's the way I answered it.

    By the way - what is YOUR opinion since you're so eager to criticize others?

    not eager to criticize.. just concerned and sensative to this kind of canned political thinking... get in the way and causes bad mistakes, like the one we are living with now.
  • cinredzfan47
    cinredzfan47 Posts: 81
    know1 wrote:
    1. Lack of individual responsibility and the tendency to blame others for one's situation

    2. Laziness

    Two things that REALLY agitate and worry me as well.
  • cinredzfan47
    cinredzfan47 Posts: 81
    Purple Hawk wrote:
    He called Bush a divider and me a dumbshit and part of the flock of sheep. I was the one asking a question...How is Bush a divider? How is that me bashing someone's view? I also started a thread asking how Democrats would fight the war on terror and never got an answer.

    Sorry, my quote made my post kind of confusing. I was supporting you, but my use of the word "you" was ambiguous and was referring to the other guy, not you. Sorry for that, I was saying I wanted him to give an example of how Bush was a divider and was agreeing with your post. Unfortunately I changed who I was talking to in the middle of my post. Sorry again for the misunderstanding.
  • surferdude
    surferdude Posts: 2,057
    oil alternative wrote:
    kat is right

    spot on in fact
    kat is smarter than me. Thanks.
    “One good thing about music,
    when it hits you, you feel to pain.
    So brutalize me with music.”
    ~ Bob Marley
  • Purple Hawk
    Purple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    cinredzfan47 wrote:
    Sorry, my quote made my post kind of confusing. I was supporting you, but my use of the word "you" was ambiguous and was referring to the other guy, not you. Sorry for that, I was saying I wanted him to give an example of how Bush was a divider and was agreeing with your post. Unfortunately I changed who I was talking to in the middle of my post. Sorry again for the misunderstanding.

    no problem!
    And you ask me what I want this year
    And I try to make this kind and clear
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
    Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
    And desire and love and empty things
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days

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