Question on Flight 93

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  • jsand
    jsand Posts: 646
    Nothingman54 wrote:
    2 different lies. 1 has to do with peoples lives and the other has to do with somebody sleeping with someone. YOU CANT WIN THIS ARGUMENT. So dont try to. No I didnt beleive him when he said he didnt have sex with her

    Perhaps if Clinton spent less time with Monica and more time on national security, we wouldn't be in the mess we're in now. So, Clinton's lie did have something to do with people's lives.
  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    jsand wrote:
    Perhaps if Clinton spent less time with Monica and more time on national security, we wouldn't be in the mess we're in now. So, Clinton's lie did have something to do with people's lives.


    while i never voted for clinton he did spend more money pre9/11 on finding and killing bin laden...
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    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    jsand wrote:
    Perhaps if Clinton spent less time with Monica and more time on national security, we wouldn't be in the mess we're in now. So, Clinton's lie did have something to do with people's lives.

    because we al know that you can't have a sex life and a job at the same time. :rolleyes:
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  • John Budge
    John Budge Posts: 259
    jsand wrote:
    Perhaps if Clinton spent less time with Monica and more time on national security, we wouldn't be in the mess we're in now. So, Clinton's lie did have something to do with people's lives.
    Wow, that's a stretch.
  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    jsand wrote:
    Perhaps if Clinton spent less time with Monica and more time on national security, we wouldn't be in the mess we're in now. So, Clinton's lie did have something to do with people's lives.

    I would rather have a President getting blow jobs while dealing with National Security, it will clear your head and allow you think clearer. I say all Presidents should get blow jobs when in office...get ready Laura
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Nothingman54 wrote:
    2 different lies. 1 has to do with peoples lives and the other has to do with somebody sleeping with someone. YOU CANT WIN THIS ARGUMENT. So dont try to. No I didnt beleive him when he said he didnt have sex with her


    relax it was just a question. like i said, i was just curious
  • jsand
    jsand Posts: 646
    blackredyellow wrote:
    because we al know that you can't have a sex life and a job at the same time. :rolleyes:

    Well, when that sex life puts your administion at risk, it kind of makes the focus on keeping yourself in the White House, as opposed to focusing on national security needs.
  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    jsand wrote:
    Well, when that sex life puts your administion at risk, it kind of makes the focus on keeping yourself in the White House, as opposed to focusing on national security needs.

    Obviously the Bush Administration was focusing on the security needs of this country when they didn't have any meetings with Richard Clarke even after the 8/6/01 memo came out stating that Bin Laden was determined to attack the US using airplanes.
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    ledvedderman wrote:
    No, and I am a big Clinton supporter. He shouldn't have lied. However, these lies are totally different. Like someone else said, this administration is so secretive and so dishonest that it is hard to literally believe anything they say.

    So back to the main topic of this post...

    1- Do you believe Flight 93 was shot down?
    2- Would you fault the government for shooting the plane down? (then covering it up and playing the political drum to the "let's roll")

    My answers
    1- Yes
    2- No, I wouldn't fault them at all. It's a tough decision to make, but the loss of life had that hit DC would have been too large to risk. I also believe that the passengers were going to fight the highjackers but didn't have enough time, I still don't know how it is to gain political gain though on the death of those citizens.


    your answer to number 1 is totally based on opinon that the government lied. which is what you want to believe. there is no proof it was shot down. so be it.

    me.

    1. no.
    2. no.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    ledvedderman wrote:
    I would rather have a President getting blow jobs while dealing with National Security, it will clear your head and allow you think clearer. I say all Presidents should get blow jobs when in office...get ready Laura


    I can see your poor attempt at humor. but its not funny. Clinton spent too much time with meetings on damage control then dealing with the growing threat to the United States
  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    jsand wrote:
    Well, when that sex life puts your administion at risk, it kind of makes the focus on keeping yourself in the White House, as opposed to focusing on national security needs.

    C'mon, you can't believe that... do you really think that Clinton, the NSA, CIA, FBI, defense department, etc. really cared about his sex life or his impeachment to the point where they weren't focused on national security. I would think that the only people that really spent much time worrying about it were the white house council that was spending thier time dealing with the Starr mess.

    If Bush/Cheney can go to hundreds of fundraising events every year, and spend more time away from washington then the past few presidents combined, and still be so focused on national security like they claim, staying focused even if getting an occasional blow job isn't out of a question.
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  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    jlew24asu wrote:
    I can see your poor attempt at humor. but its not funny. Clinton spent too much time with meetings on damage control then dealing with the growing threat to the United States

    And Bush didn't spend too much time on vacation to meet with Richard Clarke?
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    blackredyellow wrote:
    C'mon, you can't believe that... do you really think that Clinton, the NSA, CIA, FBI, defense department, etc. really cared about his sex life or his impeachment to the point where they weren't focused on national security. I would think that the only people that really spent much time worrying about it were the white house council that was spending thier time dealing with the Starr mess.

    If Bush/Cheney can go to hundreds of fundraising events every year, and spend more time away from washington then the past few presidents combined, and still be so focused on national security like they claim, staying focused even if getting an occasional blow job isn't out of a question.


    yes absoulutely. many people's jobs depend on if clinton stayed in office or not. this was definately a distraction.
  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    ledvedderman wrote:
    Obviously the Bush Administration was focusing on the security needs of this country when they didn't have any meetings with Richard Clarke even after the 8/6/01 memo came out stating that Bin Laden was determined to attack the US using airplanes.


    or when an FBI budget official told the Joint Inquiry that counterterrorism was not a priority for Attorney General Ashcroft before September 11, and the FBI faced pressure to make cuts in counterterrorism to satisfy his other priorities.

    or when FBI officials sought to add hundreds more counterintelligence agents, they got shot down even as Ashcroft began, quietly, to take a privately chartered jet for his own security reasons.”

    or the White House plan to sharply cut an emergency F.B.I. request for $1.5 billion in extra counterterrorism money after the attacks.

    or in the months before 9/11, the U.S. Justice Department curtailed a highly classified program called "Catcher's Mitt" to monitor Al Qaeda suspects in the United States

    or official annual budget goals memo mentions 7 strategic goals, not one is related to anti terror efforts. The same document by Janet Reno the previous year was delivered a month earlier and put counter terrorism as one of two top priorities

    or upon taking office, the 2002 Bush budget proposed to slash more than half a billion dollars out of funding for counterterrorism at the Justice Department. In preparing the 2003 budget, the New York Times reported that the Bush White House "did not endorse F.B.I. requests for $58 million for 149 new counterterrorism field agents, 200 intelligence analysts and 54 additional translators" and "proposed a $65 million cut for the program that gives state and local counterterrorism grants." Newsweek noted the Administration "vetoed a request to divert $800 million from missile defense into counterterrorism

    or when the Bush Administration opposed Clinton Administration-backed efforts by the G-7 and the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development that targeted countries with "loose banking regulations" being abused by terrorist financiers. Meanwhile, the Bush Administration provided "no funding for the new National Terrorist Asset Tracking Center

    or when Gen. Don Kerrick, who served in the Bush White House, sent a memo to the new Administration saying "We are going to be struck again" by al Qaeda, but he never heard back. He said terrorism was not "above the waterline. They were gambling nothing would happen
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    ledvedderman wrote:
    And Bush didn't spend too much time on vacation to meet with Richard Clarke?


    that memo you talk about a month before the attacks. there is no way for any administration to find and stop it that fast.
  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    Why the hell did Clinton get brought up in a thread debating a Flight 93 crash or it being shot down, and a possible cover-up?
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    was like a picture
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  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    jlew24asu wrote:
    that memo you talk about a month before the attacks. there is no way for any administration to find and stop it that fast.


    how about the stuff above this post i quoted?
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • Collin
    Collin Posts: 4,931
    jsand wrote:
    Well, when that sex life puts your administion at risk, it kind of makes the focus on keeping yourself in the White House, as opposed to focusing on national security needs.


    How the fuck can a blowjob put your administration at risk?
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    El_Kabong wrote:
    how about the stuff above this post i quoted?



    no one, even me, expected such an attack. and I think clinton and bush (upon taking office) under estimated the resolve of our enemys. you (not you personally) cant complain about how much we spend on defence and then bitch about making cuts in relative peaceful times.
  • John Budge
    John Budge Posts: 259
    jlew24asu wrote:
    yes absoulutely. many people's jobs depend on if clinton stayed in office or not. this was definately a distraction.
    So, the ridiculous impeachment proceedings brought by the republican congress weren't a distraction?

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