U.S. general: No evidence Iran is arming Iraqis

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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    but half of the world supports this. can't you see that?
    really like who? not including extreme Islamics such as Iran, thats a given
  • Abuskedti
    Abuskedti Posts: 1,917
    jlew24asu wrote:
    no way am I suggesting an attack. but to deny Iran's involvement is a joke.

    Iran is surely involved - afterall we invaded and occupy their next door neighbor.. and have turned it into a monumental tragedy. The people of Iran are hurt by this invasion -

    Involvement? what does that mean? To deny our involvement in the death of Innocent Iraneans in this mess would be a larger joke

    What exactly is your point? are you afraid we may mistakenly consider the nation of Iran to be one of people?
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Abuskedti wrote:
    Iran is surely involved - afterall we invaded and occupy their next door neighbor.. and have turned it into a monumental tragedy. The people of Iran are hurt by this invasion -
    how?
    Abuskedti wrote:
    Involvement? what does that mean? To deny our involvement in the death of Innocent Iraneans in this mess would be a larger joke
    now we are killing innocent Iranians? since when?
    Abuskedti wrote:
    What exactly is your point? are you afraid we may mistakenly consider the nation of Iran to be one of people?
    my point is that Iran is trying to kill US soldiers. you may think its ok or that we deserve it. I dont
  • RainDog
    RainDog Posts: 1,824
    jlew24asu wrote:
    well we did. get over it. nothing will get solved being a monday morning quarterback. come up with a solution or quit your bitching.
    I just want people to pat me on the back because everything I predicted about this war back in 2002 has come to pass. "Monday Morning Quarterback" implies hindsight - mine was forsight. How some shit-head office worker in New Orleans was better informed than our "qualified" administration about what the outcome of this endeavor would be is, well, scary.

    Are you going to be able to get over the fact that this war was all for nothing?

    Well, maybe not nothing. We did get some really cool explosions and buckets of blood.

    My solution? Leave Iraq. I'm open to ideas about how we go about that, provided we start going about that now.
  • Abuskedti
    Abuskedti Posts: 1,917
    jlew24asu wrote:
    how?

    now we are killing innocent Iranians? since when?

    my point is that Iran is trying to kill US soldiers. you may think its ok or that we deserve it. I dont

    How are we killing Iraneans... Well, there are a bunch in Iraq - and we are killing people there with great regularity and with absolutely no evidence - and very little discresion.. Well without sincere honest consideration..

    Thats how...

    The US soldiers don't deserve it... nobody deserves to be killed... I'm all for stopping it right now... are you? If so, why do you insist on participating or accepting the hateful rhetoric and propaganda...
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    RainDog wrote:
    I just want people to pat me on the back because everything I predicted about this war back in 2002 has come to pass. "Monday Morning Quarterback" implies hindsight - mine was forsight. How some shit-head office worker in New Orleans was better informed than our "qualified" administration about what the outcome of this endeavor would be is, well, scary.
    great,I'll still go with shit-head office worker.
    RainDog wrote:
    Are you going to be able to get over the fact that this war was all for nothing?
    nothing? nope sorry I dont beleive that. I think the test of time will tell what this war was for.

    RainDog wrote:
    My solution? Leave Iraq. I'm open to ideas about how we go about that, provided we start going about that now.
    so you are ok with some extreme Islamic radical taking over and being the new dictator? and possibly letting tens of thousands more die in the impending civil war that would rage if we left today?

    Iraqis are close. probably less then 2 years away from living in peace and democracy.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Abuskedti wrote:
    How are we killing Iraneans... Well, there are a bunch in Iraq - and we are killing people there with great regularity and with absolutely no evidence - and very little discresion.. Well without sincere honest consideration..
    you have alwasy claimed to know alot about how, who, and why we kill people in Iraq. yet you have never been there. someone forgot to tell you that people die during war.
    Abuskedti wrote:
    The US soldiers don't deserve it... nobody deserves to be killed... I'm all for stopping it right now... are you? If so, why do you insist on participating or accepting the hateful rhetoric and propaganda...
    if Iran is supportting the killing of american troops then those american troops should use all means necessary to defend themselves.
  • RainDog
    RainDog Posts: 1,824
    jlew24asu wrote:
    great,I'll still go with shit-head office worker.

    nothing? nope sorry I dont beleive that. I think the test of time will tell what this war was for.


    so you are ok with some extreme Islamic radical taking over and being the new dictator? and possibly letting tens of thousands more die in the impending civil war that would rage if we left today?

    Iraqis are close. probably less then 2 years away from living in peace and democracy.
    A gradual pull out is o.k. by me. In fact, it's probably going to take two years if we start now anyway. What, exactly, would you like to see before we start pulling out?

    If there are enough people in Iraq who believe in radical Islam strong enough to legitimize an Islamic dictator, what do you think we can do in two years that will subdue that belief?

    And, how is it that what's going on over there isn't a civil war yet?
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    RainDog wrote:
    A gradual pull out is o.k. by me. In fact, it's probably going to take two years if we start now anyway. What, exactly, would you like to see before we start pulling out?

    If there are enough people in Iraq who believe in radical Islam strong enough to legitimize an Islamic dictator, what do you think we can do in two years that will subdue that belief?

    And, how is it that what's going on over there isn't a civil war yet?

    ok, we arent too far off then
  • RainDog
    RainDog Posts: 1,824
    jlew24asu wrote:
    ok, we arent too far off then
    ?? Not sure I get you on this post.

    I will say, though, if you believe that military action against Iran is a good idea, or in any way justified, we're very far off.
  • even flow?
    even flow? Posts: 8,066
    jlew24asu wrote:
    well we did. get over it. nothing will get solved being a monday morning quarterback. come up with a solution or quit your bitching.


    Funny you say that. As being a person who knew, yes, knew that it would be a big screw up. Why should I offer a solution to the problem that I wouldn't have sent anybody into in the first place.

    As you laugh at the mention of the UN. I would one day like to read what you would do? Aside from supporting the troops from a safe distance.

    As for getting over it? A few choice races should live by that credo. It is a tiring as the Monday morning comment.
    You've changed your place in this world!
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    RainDog wrote:
    ?? Not sure I get you on this post.

    I will say, though, if you believe that military action against Iran is a good idea, or in any way justified, we're very far off.

    i agree with a phased pullout and all that good stuff. I do not support military action against Iran unless they are admittly and proven to be killing US soliders
  • SundaySilence
    SundaySilence Posts: 537
    Saudi Arabia gives aid to the Sunni insurgents, who have killed more US soldiers than the Shiites...

    ...and the UN was right

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